Battery drain problem on new Vaio SR?

I think that guy your referring to with ext. battery was me (if not, link please). And I recall correcting myself and editing the post to update that it still drains over night.

 

looool !! yep this guy was you !! happy that you told me that now , coz i just want to order my ext.battery now !! but now i will not do this till they fix this stupid problem

 

I have this same problem with the Z.

I had the battery charged to 100% last night. I then shutdown the computer, unplugged it and went to bed.

I just got home from work today and turned it on and I saw the battery had dropped to 89%. ***?

I'm going to do the same thing tonight but i'm going to turn it off at 70% and see what happens.

If that doesn't work I'm going to charge it to 100%, shut down, and then remove the battery overnight. If it still discharges then we'll know it's the battery. If it doesn't we'll know it's the laptop.

This way we can narrow down the problem and then be able to castrate sony properly.

 

Narrow and Best method out here, I hope Sony will gotta to do something after your complain and show them exactly where the problem is

 

just dropping by to post that the problem seem to have gone away after i fully drained the battery to 0% (went into bios and just let it shut down on its own when fully drained with no ac power) and then recharged.

no unreasonable drainage observed since.

 

why did you go into bios?

 

To ensure the battery is truly drained down and does not contain any remaining charge.

 

oh.. so just enter bios and leave it on???


yea because my vaio keeps shutting off at like 1% and still has enough juice to boot but then funks out and hibernates and does weird stuff..


again, just enter bios and leave it on?? no setting changes?

 

On another note, does anybody know why/where to buy the extended battery separately? why isn't it listed as a accessory??

 

yes went into bios is just to leave it on to drain out the battery fully.

 

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Can somebody else confirm that this works? or ufogeek, can you follow up?

It makes me uneasy draining the battery to 0%.

Also, don't you have a Z and not SR?

 

I'm gonna try that when I get home later today, god i hope it works!

thanks for letting us know

 

I have a SR.

Why should you feel uneasy draining the battery to 0%? That kind of "re-train" the battery isn't it? If you don't do that you are charging with some juice left, maybe 1%, that won't reset the battery memory.

I don't know if it made any difference but after I fully drained it, I left it to charge to 100% without using it (left AC powered on until the battery charging light disappeared).

I haven't had the problem for a couple of days now. I leave the battery in laptop overnight, AC powered off. Next morning, AC powered on and I boot up it's the same % as previous night. The AC powered on will not charge the battery because Battery Care Function is enabled.

 

Those will work with the SR? i have been thinking of buying extended battery because of the Battery drain. If i can solve this by discharging the battery pack completely. I may not need to buy an extra battery pack.

 

Yes they will

 

hi ufogeek. can you try 2 things. first, power on with battery. second run the notebook down to about 40-50%, turn off and power on again with battery. it has been mentioned on several threads that powering on with ac does not get the drain, however powering on with battery does.

 

So did anyone test Ufogeek's solution?

I read that it's not a problem. I've done it several times with different latops, never had a problem.

 

actually not mentioned in my previous post, but before hitting the submit button, i hibernated on battery and powered on battery, no drain. hibernate should theoretically takes more than shutdown since it writes memory to hdd.

just to be very clear... if you own an SR, what you can do is try what I have done to see if the problem goes away for you.

if you don't yet own one, pls don't count on just my testimony to decide whether or not to buy because my solution may not work for you (tony actually said before that he drained it before but the problem didn't go away for him).

i think we should let others try and see if the problem goes away for them because who knows, it might be something else i did that i am unaware of that made the problem go away...

 

Cool thanks tonythetiger. I just drained my battery now. I'm going to fully charge it now
when i got on i started with 1% charge but i let it run on bios and it shutdown automatically

eDIT: Oh yeah question about the Extended battery any ideas on the battery time we get with an ATI and P processor?

 

So ufogeek, your drain is completely disappeared? how many hours have you tested?

 

ya, mine is apparently gone, for a couple of days now. each night i leave my battery inside the laptop with ac power off. so that is 8hrs+ each night

and the previous problem where i power off for 30 minutes and power on again and see 10% loss is gone as well.

perhaps it's the 0% recharge, perhaps it's the battery care function, perhaps it's a combination of both that took the problem away - i am not sure.

if the problem comes back i will post.

 

That's amazing. Well done for trying it out.

 

Has anyone tried this suggestion? Perhaps allowing the BIOS to control the actual shutdown, whether manually as in this case or automatically as in ufogeek's method, is the difference. This takes the OS and drivers out of the picture, which may be the culprits in setting some device to the wrong power mode.

I guess this doesn't explain why ufogeek's mehtod works, since he only had to do it once. Unless this causes a bit to be flipped somewhere in CMOS or device NVRAM that changes how that devices behaves thereafter.

 

ok guys, strange thing happening here.

i hibernated at 33% on battery, 30 minutes later powered up on battery, showing 20%.

BUT it has been 50 minutes since i booted up and it still shows "38 min (20%) remaining" so I am not sure what is happening. This could mean no real drainage but just mis-reporting of the %. However this will also be a problem because it will report low power when you actually have power left...

 

Yeah that happend to me it seems the battery meter is really stupid. I think i'll just ignore it. I hibernated the computer at 45% got back it was 25% the thing was 25% lasted for a long time (i wish i timed it). Therefore IMO the battery meter is not trustworthy the timer is not trust worthy as well. I'm going to assume the battery works fine and the computer meters are broken.
Remember that computer lasts for about 3hrs but the indicators says 2.5hrs.

 

yes but this is going to be a problem as well because you will be forced to hibernate/shutdown due to the broken meter (low battery alert when actually not low battery).

 

yep that's it !! when you leave you battery for long time like 2 days and it was 50 % charged , you can't turn your laptop on coz it will go direct to hibernate , but actually the battery has a lot of power !!

 

just turn off the option to go into hibernation when the battery is low. Problem solved...

 

you can't !! even if you turn this off at 3 % it will go to hibernate ! it looks some thing we can't change it from the windows !!

 

that can't be the solution. because what happens if your battery is really low? you will lose data if you switch off that option.

 

Got my SR on the 30th. Last night, it was at 61%.

1. Shut down on battery
2. Left it for 7 hours
3. Booted on battery

Result => 61%. 0% Loss

I have it set to power off the DVD drive in battery and had the wireless off.

I'm repeating the same test but for 14 hours to see if i get any drain.

 

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really ?? please tell us the version of your VAIO Control center ?? and try to do the same thing again and tell if you don't have battery drain ??

 

Hasn't it been tested before that shutting off on battery => booting up on battery == no battery drain? This problem seems to only happen when you shut down on AC and boot up on battery.

 

OK. Will test it tonight and report back.

 

i only see battery drain when i put my computer to hibernation on battery. i see no drain at all when i shut down my computer (not hibernate or stand by) either on battery or ac

 

can you tell me if you have the default setting as the factory setting or you changed any thing ?? like if u removed vaio control center or if you removed any start up programs ??

 

x2. I even forgot and left the WIFI switch on. 7hrs, turned of on ac, turned on with battery == no drain.

 

can you tell me if you have the default setting as the factory setting or you changed any thing ?? like if u removed vaio control center or if you removed any start up programs ??

 

Just to add something:
It seems interesting that people have noticed a battery drain on some and haven't on others.

May I suggest a poll with all different SRs listed?

Also - someone noticed incompatible values with regard to the battery charge.
I'm thinking right now: Overcharging the battery would reduce its lifetime...

But I think a poll would be useful, possible with multiple choices.

 

No, everything is in default configuration with the exception of the CD drive shutting off in battery mode. You thinking it might be caused by something user's uninstalled?

 

yup !! can you tell me please the precess that run in windows start up ( go to run and right (msconfig) ) ??
and when you charged your battery first time it was after you installed win vista !! or you charged it to full before using your new laptop ??

 

OK. I'm not by the computer at the moment, and i don't have internet at home yet. I'll do at as soon as possible.

I am running the test for a third time today though.

 

Appreciate it !! but can u tall me !! when you received your laptop, did u charged your laptop till full and then turn on your laptop !! or you did charged your laptop while you using it ??

 

Yeah, I let it charge for a couple of hours before turning it on. I'm not sure if it was fully charged though.

 

i have new battery now ,,
1-i will install the factory setting and turn off my laptop

2- i'll put my new battery while the laptop is off and charged it for 8 hours

3- i will turn on my laptop and test if i have the same problem with my new battery or not

and thank you again Yawdapaah for every thing !!

 

I hope it works out for you and I'll keep you updated.

 

just for records sake, as i stated in the other SR thread

1. 5% drain overnight; off or sleep
2. No drain at all if on sleep for short period of time (my test was 15 minutes)

 

Hamud,

I totally forgot to list the processes running on the PC and did a semi-clean install. Sorry about that. But what's weird is that, I'm now seeing the drain (about .75% per hour), which leads me to think:

1. Either, I wasn't performing the test right b4, or somehow missed the drain or
2. There is something I didn't add after the Semi-Clean install of Vista that's causing the problem.

I have the following stuff installed:
SmartWi, Video Shared Library, Content Folder Setting (and it's crap which will go soon), Vaio Control Center, Vaio Event Service, Vaio Mode Switch, Vaio Origianl Function, Vaio Power Management, Vaio Update, Vaio Wallpaper, Vaio Wireless wizard installed. Nothing else from Sony

I don't have battery checker installed (I don't know what it does). And what's more annoying, after the reinstall, i have about 70 process again

BTW is there an easy way to export a list of processes to notepad or something, typing them out would be a PITA.

 

You can try hijackthis - but it'll list services etcetera too.

Battery checker - theoretically it just checks whether you are using a Sony battery...

I've got 64 processes on an SZ, Outlook, Firefox 3 and IE 7 running...
Are you running Home Premium or Businss?
I'm running Vista Business.
My mothers Medion has about 10 processes less.