Bed Bugs, how much heat can the Z take?

So I stayed in a hotel with bed bugs. I didn't get bitten but I saw a few about the bed. Obviously, I don't want to take them home with me. So caution is the side to err on. Other than sealing my Z in a plastic bag for 18 months, the only other sure fire way to kill anything that maybe in it is to heat it up. I need 140 degs F. Is that too hot for the Z? Supposedly, most electronics are speced to 150 degs F. If I purposely leave my Z on full bore in my case this time, will the thermal cutoff happen before it immolates? It didn't last time but I'm not sure it got hot enough.

 

140 Farenheit is 60 degrees celsius. A CPU or CPU is barely getting warmed up at 60 degrees Celsius. Gamers routinely see temperatures in the 70s and 80s, and don't tend to worry until the 90s and really get concerned when it hits 100 degrees celsius.

However, that's just the CPU, not the rest of the machine. I don't know if heating your entire machine to 60 degrees celsius is great. The CPU will get well above 60 degrees, but the cooling system will keep what needs to stay cooler, cooler. It's not like there's going to be a bedbug inside your screen, anyway. I'd just use it real heavily for an hour or so, and any bed bugs who know what's good for them will skitter out if the case, or die trying.

 

Isn't there stuff you can spray the laptop with?

 

Bedbugs are incredibly hardy animals. Anything toxic enough to kill bedbugs, I wouldn't want to be spraying on or inside my laptop. Just my take.

 

Try running Furmark. That shizz will get your GPU running at high temps that you wouldn't reach playing any game.

 

That would be great, if the GPU was onboard

 

I've seen various arguments in favor of an onboard dGPU. This one, however, is uniquely compelling.

 

I don't think the screen would fair well at that temp, much less the optical wires and sheathing on some of the wires.

 

OMG I thought bed bugs were just made up :O (i'm young, still need to see the world...)

But wouldn't that temp just like, melt the laptop lol. I mean the connectors and wires wouldn't do great. It might do more harm to your lappy than not.

 

This would be so funny - if it wasn't so sad.

 

I'd suggest to do some research on bed bugs first. I know some of those creatures (like flea) cant survive without the host. They die (starve) after 48 Houres sealed in a bag. Others die in the refrigerator, wich I think might be ok for the Notebook. (See operating conditions)

 

Actually, a flea can go without food for 14 days. Bed bugs can go 80 to 140 days. If they just ate, they can go 550 days.

Tough little s

 

Sorry, I mixed them up with crabs. Those suckers are obviously way easier to exterminate.

Bed bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Read this, and you will find many parameters your companions don't like.

Anyway, make shure they can not Escape...

Then overclock your Notebook and smoke em out. 55°C and a plastikbag should be fine. You could also fill the bag with CO². (any welding shop can help)

 

I can't see this working - wouldn't they just migrate to the cooler parts of the body? Chemical warfare seems like the best option still.

 

Apparently they die at 55F, so AuVaioVai's recommendation is probable the best bet.

 

Plug in your pewter. Download and run IntelBurnTest (Linpack), for about 5 hours. Failing that, drink 2 cases of beer, and let some wind loose near all intakes of your Z, while still running IBT.

 

Chemical warfare would gum up the works and require a complete strip down and clean. Also, some of those chemicals are not plastic friendly.

This needs to be done in a sealed environment. Just running it full bore and waiting for things to crawl out will not be enough since I also need to think about killing any eggs. Those can be anywhere. So I need to bring the temperature of the entire laptop up. That's why I thought about doing it in the case. I've done it before accidentally. The screen is not happy and doesn't really work properly. The laptop itself is boiling hot.

I have 4 options as I see it.

1) Seal the laptop up for 18 months and wait for them to all die.
2) Seal it up and heat it to 120 degs.
3) Seal it up and freeze it. Water condensation would be a huge concern as well as the eggs may survive.
4) Fumigate.

What companies like terminix do is submerse it in a dry ice sludge. It freezes it and sublimates directly into a gas.

 

Burn it with FIRE!! Bed bugs are cooooming!!!$!

 

I say we take off and nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.

 

They mostly come out at night. Mostly

 

In all seriousness, do bedbugs

But the person who suggested putting it in a bag full of carbon dioxide is genius. This will kill bedbugs:

Bed bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And it should be utterly harmless to electronics, unlike heat or pesticides. Besides, bedbugs are increasingly resistant to pesticides.

 

I'm surprised by this. I thought about sufficating like this but apparently BB's survive just well in low oxygen environments. They have a crazy low metabolism. So I'm unsure how long one would have to leave them in a bag of CO2. Also, if it worked well, why don't the pros do this. They either, heat/freeze/burn/pesitcides. Since they have these chambers they fill to fumigate them, they could just as easy use CO2 instead.

 

Chances to eradicate completely are slim, minus taking advantage of accidental coverage insurance and throwing it out a 2nd story window.

Shove it in the lowest part of your fridge overnight and hope that is enough.

 

The article also notes that pure nitrogen won't kill them. So it's not the absence of O2, but the presence of CO2. Which is odd, as CO2 at least for humans isn't harmful except for displacing O2. But they're so different than us that CO2 might be toxic to them in high concentrations.

As for why pros don't do that, I have no idea.

If the bedbug article on wiki is correct, refrigeration won't do a thing:

Bed bug - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

I've seen articles saying 55 F, but anyhoo

And I've seen Aliens like 1k times

 

@ Mitlov

Many Thanks!

Dry Ice in a bag should be perfect...

 

I suspect that'll do the trick. And looking online, it looks like some professional companies DO use CO2 fumigation, dry ice snow, etc for bed bug removal.

 

Yes, they do. Like I said for laptops some companies use a dry ice sludge. But I don't think that's for the CO2, it's to freeze them.

People have tried dry ice before. They say it doesn't work. Someone that makes a commercial bed bug killer said they tried dry ice but it didn't work well enough.

 

And if we were talking about fumigating a mattress, where it's hard to really saturate the insides of the mattress, I'd agree. But we're talking about a laptop--a small object made out of hard impermeable surfaces--where whatever gas you surround it with will, within a matter of minutes, permeate every area of the laptop where bedbugs conceivably could go.

 

The problem is the high CO2 concentrations don't kill all the bed bugs. Sticking a block of dry ice in a bag isn't even high concentration. Also, they don't do anything to the eggs. People have tried with chambers using CO2 gas. The people that make the Packtite, which is design to kill BBs on suitcases etc, said they used dry ice first but it didn't work.

dry ice? Got Bed Bugs? Bedbugger Forums

Terminix et al that use dry ice, use it to freeze the BBs, not to sufficate them with CO2.

 

So are we back to CPU benchmarking as the best possible option?

 

Well, that in a case which would make it a baby packtite. I would get a packtite except that is $300 and I would only use it for the laptop. Everything else goes in the drier.

 

Can we not try both?

Dry ice then heat it up or other way round?

 

So, according to this thread.

How hot, how long, how dead? Got Bed Bugs? Bedbugger Forums

It takes say about 2 hours at 106F to kill eggs and the bugs. If this was summer, I would just let my laptop sit on the driveway for a day and it would be taken care of. Why can I just ziplock my laptop and put it in the oven at say 110F just to be safe? A ziplock doesn't come close to melting at that temperature and I know my laptop has been left for a day in my car that regularly hits 130-140F in the summer. So it can take it too. Is there a flaw in my plan? I'll just leave it in there for say 4 hours. Yes, even with the battery in it. I know that high heat isn't good for a battery but 110F is well below the storage limit of the battery and like I said, it gets about that hot during the summer anyways.

 

I have a friend who lives in Abu Dhabi, and ambient air temps can hit 120F there. Yet people own the same laptops from the same manufacturers. I think that this is a really good idea.

 

Seems reasonable. Lenovo quotes a non-operating maximum temperature of 5.0°C to 43.0°C (41°F to 109°F) for their thinkpad:
Detailed specifications - ThinkPad T410
I don't know what it is for the Vaio Z, but I would imagine it's similar.

 

I don't know why it's so low. Obviously, they can do better than that. There are many places, including in CA, where the temperature exceeds 109F. Yet the laptops don't die a sudden death. Since the CPU/GPU and many other parts idle at 160F, I think it's just concern about the battery life being cut short.

 

^ I guess they're just playing it safe. Fujitsu states a non-operating temperature of their notebook of 5°F to 140°F / -15°C to 60°C.
Fujitsu America - LIFEBOOK&reg S761 Notebook

 

If it was me, my concern wouldn't be limited to just killing the stupid bugs. I'd also be concerned about their carcasses plugging up the inside of my computer.

Whatever means you decide upon to kill the infestation, I would suggest that you follow it up by removing the outer shell of your Z and using a can of compressed air to clear away and inspect the results of your extermination attempt.

Best of luck to you!

Oh, and ewe!!

 

Yep. I definitely will do that. It's time for another hinge screw tightening anyways. I just want to make sure any bugs are dead before I open them up and have them scatter everywhere.

 

Do it in your garden if you have one or an outside space somewhere?

By the way, do you actually know if you have bed bugs in the lappy or just want to be sure if there are any, that you kill them?

 

I have no idea whether I have any bed bugs. I've seen no signs. I just want to be sure. I stayed in a hotel for 2 nights where I found bed bugs on the bed. I didn't get bitten. 4 days later, I have gotten one bug bite a night these last two nights. So since my stuff was in a room where bed bugs were found, I don't want to risk taking them home.