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    Do the SSD's on the VAIO Z series come with TRIM?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by Something_Awesome, Sep 15, 2010.

  1. Something_Awesome

    Something_Awesome Notebook Enthusiast

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    If not, would it not be better to go with a traditional drive instead because of the degredation of performance that would occur in an SSD without TRIM?

    Thanks for any input.
     
    Something_Awesome, Sep 15, 2010
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  2. Qwaarjet

    Qwaarjet Notebook Deity

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    Good point, surprised this has never been brought up here before
     
    Qwaarjet, Sep 15, 2010
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  3. Something_Awesome

    Something_Awesome Notebook Enthusiast

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    Well yea I figure it makes sense. The SSD will be fragmented to hell, and based on research I have done so far, TRIM is not supported on SSD drives in RAID 0 configuration. Therefore, the Z series is worthless because there is no HDD configuration offered here in the states.
     
    Something_Awesome, Sep 15, 2010
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  4. Qwaarjet

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    man, i'm gonna go sell mine on ebay before it's too late. thanks for your research
     
    Qwaarjet, Sep 15, 2010
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  5. thomaskc.dk

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    What about garbage collection?

    Im pretty sure they are not worthless :)
     
    thomaskc.dk, Sep 15, 2010
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    namaiki "basically rocks" Super Moderator

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    Has anyone complained about performance from those relating to the SSDs?
     
    namaiki, Sep 16, 2010
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  7. Something_Awesome

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    Im just going to call sony tech support tomorrow morning and ask what they have in place to combat performance degradation for the drive configuration they offer in their Z series.
     
    Something_Awesome, Sep 16, 2010
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    I own my Z since late March. My SSDs work just like new so far.
     
    sturmnacht, Sep 16, 2010
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    Come on dudes ! This subject has been discussed over and over, just read the FAQ ans search a little bit in the forum...

    Do you think people here are so dumb that they will not search about this TRIM/Garbage collection story within 6 MONTHS they got a Z ???
     
    Crus-T, Sep 16, 2010
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  10. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    I'm lol'ing here at all your (well) hidden sarcasm.
     
    beaups, Sep 16, 2010
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    Malarkey Notebook Guru

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    S_A, this has been discussed heavily on this forum, in many threads. Search for trim, garbage, degradation or any related term and I'm sure you'll find some. A few of the threads have massive amounts of test data.

    Long and short of it is: Sony has some extremely effective way of addressing this issue and thus far the results have been outstanding. There does not seem to be meaningful degradation; the behavior is on par with TRIM, though it's not using TRIM itself.

    Qwaarjet, I lol'd as well.
     
    Malarkey, Sep 16, 2010
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  12. 5ushiMonster

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    SSD threads are plentiful on these forums; been so since the Z11 came out (with Zoinks going crazy with tests). Agreed; search and research before posting...

    Though to help namaiki (you're from CCCP forums right...?).
    There has been ONE or TWO complaints with the SSD's slowing down; these machines were 6 months old when this occured. Though note; the slow-downs were almost neglible. They were only seen through benchmark testing.

    Apparently, these individuals didn't install something (if memory serves correct, INTEL RAID MANAGER). The thing with VPC-Z is just leave it to idle and the SSDs will do their magic, automatically and by themselves.

    Heck, I see my VGN-Z with a HDD cleaning itself up if I leave it to idle on W7.
     
    5ushiMonster, Sep 16, 2010
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