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    Help: Sony TZ90 Keyboard, feels different to other TZ models?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by zerodays, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. zerodays

    zerodays Notebook Consultant

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    I am feeling a little strange problem with my TZ90 SSD+HDD

    Firstly, I've looked and hand-typed TZ160/170 models shown in SonyStyle.
    For those keyboard, feel rigid, each key seemed to 'click'.

    For my TZ90 (eng) keyboard, I don't feel any rigidness, each key do not seemed to click, but rather pushes down softly....(or more like wobbles?)

    Ok, so I've done some little research myself.
    For my TZ90 keyboard:

    1. Keyboard area itself seemed to somewhat 'NOT' tightly screwed into TZ's chassis!!
    2. Rubber could be the problem, but I highly doubt that rubber quality or characteristics are different for different models.

    Thus, I can only concluded that, our TZ90 customaizable (or at least my TZ90) is somewhat not fully/tightly screwed.

    I can confirm that they did not tightly screwed my chassis, because I used my own screw drivers to tighten up each holes at the back, and trust me, they really do turn at least 90 degress more.

    Anyway, so my question is.

    - anyone having this problem?
    - how to tighten up the keyboard? Is there a way to tighten up this keyboard into chassis without opening up TZ ?

    Many thanks!
     
  2. JabbaJabba

    JabbaJabba ThinkPad Facilitator

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    To this date I have not experienced a TZ (including my former TZ90) where the keys clicked. When pushing down the keys should have a soft yet still responsive feel to them - but no 'clicks'.
     
  3. zerodays

    zerodays Notebook Consultant

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    jabba, ok, maybe 'click' could relate with a mouse 'click'. No this was not what I meant. I do agree no keyboard really 'clicks'.
    Yes, I feel it soft, and still responsive. But obviously the Demo models were a lot more 'responsible' I could see each button really gets pressed, as if digital-like: either go key go down or up. whereas my TZ, although, phyiscally they also go down or up, but I still feel less responsive..

    So, it again leads to my conclusion that, my TZ90's keyboard area (or this keyboard module) is not tightly screwed onto the chassis. I am currently looking at some of the disassembled TZ to findout where a keyboard screws are... anyone know? or, is keyboard not screwed onto it?

    I can definitely feel its very tight outside edges of keyboard, but in the center of keyboard (where F, G, H, J keys are), is really soft where I can actually see the whole keyboard sort of sinking down as I put some pressure on it. and I think thats where the problem comes....
     
  4. zerodays

    zerodays Notebook Consultant

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    http://kunkoku.livedoor.biz/archives/51004188.html

    Ok, But I still do not understand, how that keyboard managed to stay with the upper-chassis.
    Or put it this way, Is the screws at the back, near the DDR memory slots are holding the upper-chassis, then ??

    I just don't understand, if only the 'edges of keyboard' is screwed in, then is there no screws in the center of the keyboard? thus, the keyboard center is sort-of hanging in the air ?

    To anyone who opened TZ, is the keyboard screwed under the 'upper chassis' then ??
     
  5. zerodays

    zerodays Notebook Consultant

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    Bump....

    http://images.google.co.kr/imgres?i...vnum=10&um=1&complete=1&hl=ko&lr=&newwindow=1

    This is the only the closeup image of keyboard I could see.
    I see that the keyboard is basically 'separated' from the main keyboard-frame, so it is possible to exchange keyboard to new or different locale.

    But still, I don't see any screws, as I need to see the bottom area of the keyboard....

    Can anyone who opened TZ please confirm?


    Here ia a quick test for those with sony TZ.... please tell me.


    press any 'edge' area of keyboard using your finger-tip, you can use 2 fingers to feel the 'pressure' or hardness.

    Then, press any 'center' area of keyboard,

    do you then, feel the same hardness ? whats the pressure like ?

    For my TZ, I feel that as if there are some 'emptyness' (or hollow-ness) in the center of keyboard, either not screwed in properly, whether that is the actual chassis to chassis, or keyboard to keyboard-frame....

    Another similiar test then....

    Put your finger on the 'F1,F2...F9' row, as if you are typing on 'ASDFGHJK' row
    Type some, and compare that with the center row of ASDFS,

    how's that feel? Don't you feel that top row (F1,F2...) are more 'click' ??
    Thus, upper and lower side (that is, 'edge' area) keys are more rigid and 'click' ?

    Sorry for the trouble, but this is kinda annoying, and I really want several people to try out this... as, many of you have TZ by now.