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    Is it possible to install Raid-0 SSD to regular SVS1511?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by mr.Elias, Dec 1, 2012.

  1. mr.Elias

    mr.Elias Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello everyone!
    I'm new to this topic.
    I've read a lot great info on this forum, but did not find exact answer.
    Is it possible to install 2x256GB RAID 0 instead of regular 750GB HDD in SVS151190X ?

    there were thoughts that S series with RAID from factory and with regular HDD from factory utilize the same MB, but raid cable and raid controller some kinda plugged to MB.
    Correct me if I'm wrong

    or would be better :thumbsup::thumbsup: to see some pictures of RAID 2xSSD installed on factory.
    thanks in agvance!
     
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    Great info! thank you a lot!
    what about BIOS re-flash?

    Also I've heard that I need to unplug ODD to make sata3 work with SSD RAID-0? What if I plug-in HDD instead ODD, will I lose SATA3 in case RAID-0 SSD already installed in my system?
     
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    You don't need re flash bios to upgrade to raid setup.
    About sata3, I think when you run ssd in raid, and it may work.


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    any thoughts please???
     
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    Yes, it is RAID and SATA3. These drives are being used in VPCZ2 and SVZ13 models
     
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    Why can't you just replace the 750GB primary HDD with a SATA-3 SSD and then replace the ODD with a HDD/SSD Caddy and place another SSD (recommend same size and brand as primary) in the caddy? Now you have two SSD's that you can RAID, unless there is some bios limitation that stops you from using the ODD bay for RAID.

    I know the ODD interface has some issues reliably booting into SATA 6Gbps mode and sometimes reverts to 3Gbps but from what I've seen with most modern SSD's unless you are working with very large files the difference is hardly noticeable.

    I believe there is some people working on a bios fix to this.
     
  9. mr.Elias

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    because its not RAID-0.
    for example Samsung 830 just single SATA3 option, not RAID-0

    I believe that ODD work in SATA mode, maybe SATA2 mode (I really doubt, but not sure)

    Yes, my question focused only on this issue, because I'm working with huge DB files for about 1-5 GB each.

    So I'm searching for BIGGER capacity solution. because SONY STORE have PRICEY option for RAID-0 512GB for their SVS1512.
     
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    tabchy Newbie

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    hello everyone!
    Sorry to steer a bit away from the thread topic, but i have a question concerning the SSD: Samsung 1 8" 256GB Lif SSD MZRPA256HMDR 000S0 MZ RPA2560 0S0:

    can it be installed on a macbook air A1304 (mid 2009)? And if so, are there instructions available on how to do it for that model?
    i tried searching the web for additional info, but couldn't find any!
    thought i'd give it a shot here.
    i just wanna make sure i can replace my MBA regular HDD with this samsung SSD before purchasing.

    again, sorry to deviate from the thread topic, but thought maybe someone could help.

    Thanks a lot
    cheers
     
  11. ngvuanh

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    The answer is NO because you have regular HDD unless you can find a different cable for LIF connector of SSD.
    OK, that's all you need to know and now go to MB forums to ask where to find the cable.
     
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    Hi!
    Thanks again for your reply

    You've mentioned to use MZRPA256HMDR 000S0, but I've found differences

    MZRPA256HMDR-000 [256GB MLC/SATA/2con]
    MZRPC256HADR-000 [256GB MLC/SATA Gen3/2con]

    Can you help to find out? (Google didn't).
     
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    I actually don't know "Gen3" between 2 drives.
    However, my guess is just how Sony described their own name for third party part.
    I google SATA Gen3 and it came up as SATA3. But I have MZRPA256HMDR-000 running in my Z2 at SATA3 also.
     
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    Based on this link Laptop harddisks (HDD, SSD) comparison - Notebookcheck.net Tech
    I could make a decision that
    MZRPA256HMDR-000 is older than
    MZRPC256HADR-000

    maybe there's newer controller used inside MZRPC according to this review http://www.notebookcheck.net/Review-Sony-Vaio-VPC-Z23N9E-B-Subnotebook.72579.0.html

    Both SSDs (SAMSUNG MZRPC512HAFU-000SO) work in a RAID 0 array whereas the memories are written in parallel. Consequently, a much higher performance is possible compared to single solutions. That is also reflected in our tests.
    The results in AS SSD are high. Thus, the sequential read rate was 845.19 MB/s and the sequential write rate was strong 743.19 MB/s. Sony is also the number one in our database in the latter test.


     
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    These benchmarks are just showing numbers.
    I have been over 3 different laptops with 3 different SSD setups.
    My SVS13 runs 256GB Crucial M4 at SATA2: ~250MB/s (sequence read)
    My Duo 11 runs 256GB stock at SATA3: ~450MB/s (sequence read)
    My previous Z2 run 256GB in RAID-0 at SATA3: ~900MB/s (sequence read)
    By observing boot time of all 3, there is not much difference. However, copying files would see significant difference.
    There are many people concerned about the numbers but in fact actual performance of those 3 are almost the same unless you do a lot of transferring files back and forth.
     
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    Boot-up time is not a good example of performance as it is not going to go below a certain level because of hardware initialization time that cannot be overcome.
     
  17. mr.Elias

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    what's the best place to buy A1883398A
    Sony shows out of stock.

    thanks!
     
  18. ngvuanh

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    Windows boot time actually is reflect the most actual data transfer from storage and memory since there is NO cache involve.
    Once Windows is running, performance may increase because read and write caches are doing there jobs.

     
  19. mr.Elias

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    I've found that OEM RAID0 SATA3 SSDs
    MZRPA256HMDR-000
    and
    MZRPC256HADR-000
    both made in 2010
    it's pretty old SSD to install it into 2012 model.
    so my other point is to buy 2 mSATA SSD 1.8" to make RAID0.
    maybe it will be other thread.
    what do you think?
     
  20. ngvuanh

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    Your laptop comes with single cable that ports 2 SATA devices.
    You can't do anything to make RAID beside those drives, unless you can make your own cable.
    SVS has only 2 cable options, single SATA connector for 2.5 drives or double SATA device for that RAID ready SSD drives.