New Model Vaio TT to come soon?

visited Conics web site and stumble upon this: http://conics.net/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=478

from my reading, it seems that a new model coming soon, I'm wandering whether it will only be spec refresh or an entirely new model. I honestly hope its an entirely new model with more sleeker look (and thinner), longer battery life

now i'm at the dilemma between buying the new Z11 or wait for the "new" TT

 

That is still a Core2Duo... Hopefully they will update to a ULV Core i5, when they become available...

 

This was touched on a little while ago in the TT owners thread.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5983042&postcount=1352
A forum member the-Orb said they contacted Conics and they said that Conics replied and said the TT93 can no longer be ordered and that Sony JP have stopped taking orders for this model.

In the EU also i noticed and pointed out a while back that the high end model was no longer available. The low end config model with the Celeron processor is available though to order.

Even if a new model is released it could be possible that it would be sold in the EU where models can be configured and in Asia.

I know the U9600 is being phased out, they could be struggling to get parts. Even the U9400 is being used less and less.

The thing with the TT is that the X is there and 3lbs Z is also there. The W/M series is there to. Sony could phase out this series or who knows they could have something up their sleeve.

I bought my TT not long ago and it serves my purposes as a second computer so i'm no hurry to get another 11.1 ultraportable.

Still though, it is interesting to see what Sony will do next. I would like to see Sony continue this line.

 

I hope Sony rekindle the TT line too. A ULV Core i5 lends itself perfectly to this form factor, especially having the on-die GPU...

As for the X, I really don't understand it...!? My ancient TZ is better in every department (except weight)...

Because the X appears to be an over-sized netbook, it surely cannot be the replacement to the TT.... :|

 

yess i couldn't agree more, I've had the x for a couple of days as a loaner from a friend of mine, apart from the fact it is a good lightweight machine with nice screen the atom processor and 2GB of ram couldn't keep-up with my day to day activities. the TX and TZ I have previously own was a superb machine and the Z i currently own is a class of its own despite of being more weighty and thirsty for battery (although it is understandable from the high specs that it have).

I really wish that if sony is replacing the current TT it will be a combination of the TZ and Z in terms of power weight and durability

 

That's great news...I hope too for a redesign, more slim chassis, CULV and long battery life.
What is happening with the X and P series? Sony did not refresh these models for quite some time now. But, I understand your point, I also think that the X was a failure. My old TZ is way more powerfull, with very good battery life and of course not Atom-based. At least the P series that has Atom too, has the advantage of the design (incredible how small it is), in the opposite of the X. Come on Sony, do another great model of the T series!

 

I agree that the X is not comparable in terms of performance to the TT.
However, in terms of product lines Sony may possibly feel that the X serves the job in 11 inch ultraportable market but who knows.
They could though well come out with a ULV ultraportable 11 in and i would like to see them do this.
I just checked the Sony UK website and some several weeks you can now configure a high end model again but config options are limited.
I wonder if you can now place an order for a TT in Japan?
I think they are running low on stock and want to clear inventory now.
I preferred the looks of the TT series to the TZ.
I feel they can make some improvements though in the weight department and in other areas.

 

I sure hope they don't think that. The TT is a high-end machine in all but CPU/GPU power, while the X is, face it, a netbook very similar to what other vendors sell for $500.

Or, in other terms, the TT is to the X like the Z is to the Y.

If I could get a new TT with an i5-520UM, and still the two standard 1.6" HDD/SDD bays and high quality 8-bit display of the old TT, I'd be very happy. Even though it (of course) would cost a lot more than the X.

 

Looks like the new Z is a bit lighter, so I guess that might be part of it... still, I prefer the smaller form factor of the TT, even if the weight difference is reduced.

 

yepp, the old Z was somewhere around 1.38kg to 1.4kg which is not far from the TT and that's also the reason why i choose the Z over the TT last year, I'm hoping that the new TT will be around 1.1-1.2Kg area much like the TZ

 

You always have to keep in mind the relative battery life when comparing the two -- i.e. for my uses I determined I'd often have to carry a spare battery with the Z but not with the TT, so the real-world weight difference was greater than the specs would imply.

Of course, the new Z has a longer battery life, so that's becoming less of a difference..

 

It does? From what I can tell, it has gone down. I can easily get 5-6 hours out of the old Z, while people testing the new Z in stamina mode haven't been able to push 4.

 

Is this going to be a totally new model (new design) or the existing form factor with a new processor? I am not a fan of the current tt chasis.

 

At this point, there aren't any indications that there will be a new TT at all. The line might be discontinued. Some of us just hope there will be a new one.

 

I for one certainly hoped that sony continues the T lineage

 

That's right. I contacted Conics and they told me that they have no official information from Sony about a new TT model. So these are just rumors for now. While I also hope for a refresh since an updated TT would serve my needs perfectly, I disagree that the X is a failure. It has probably the coolest design of any notebook I've ever seen and it does what it's designed to do fairly well, which is combining basic functionality with ultimate portability. Yes, it borders on a netbook, but unlike the TT, it's certainly not meant to be used as a main machine. With a little tweaking, it's possible to do most basic tasks without too much trouble, including watching HD movies and HD streaming with Flash 10.1. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a performance improvement for the X just as much as anyone else.

One reason that there hasn't been an update for P and X series is that Intel hasn't refreshed the Atom Z series processors. There are some rumors about Oak Trail being the next generation of the Atom Z, but again, no dates or official announcements have been made. If you look at the TDP of the Atom Z series, it's 2.4W for the 2GHz model. Compare that to the TDP of 18 W of a ULV i7 and you see why an ultra-thin and light model like the X or P simply will not work with such a chip. It would either melt or the battery would last like 30 min.

 

I've read a few people claim after you the-Orb that they contacted Conics and were told that they were told by Sony that a new model is coming out in 2 months.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=6021249&postcount=62

May be you could contact them again and see if they tell you the same thing.

 

hmm that's interesting, why would conics list "New Model Coming Soon" in their page if they don't know weather Sony will release it or not? do they received "unconfirmed" info from Sony? well time will tell, just need to sit tightly and wait for the next two month

 

I checked with Conics again and they said they have no official confirmation. That other post from 612kimx1853 doesn't claim that they have official confirmation either. Basically, I believe that Conics put that message on their website because the current TT is no longer available and based on previous Sony models, they expect a refresh a couple of months after the previous model becomes unavailable. So, who knows how much longer we have to wait or if there will even be a refresh? Would be great if someone that speaks Japanese could actually contact Sony Japan and ask them. At least if they say there will be no refresh, I wouldn't have to wait longer and just get the Z.