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    New Sony Vaio Z speculation/news thread

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by TSE, Feb 15, 2011.

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    Mclass Newbie

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    US$ 2,999 (in a DC outlet)
     
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    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    I mean...sony should def be at computex right? If not, e3 then? They are on the list for that.
     
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    ascariss Notebook Deity

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    E3 and sony would be more or less about the new PSP aka sony NGP, any new laptops can just be introduced using a press release, doesn't have to be at a show.
     
  6. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    not bad, the original price is $4500
     
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    kevin1987bj Notebook Consultant

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    good price, the only problem is the fear of getting a lemon
     
  8. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    But the Vaio Z2 is kinda a big deal....should be worth more than a press release lol
     
  9. dannisan

    dannisan Notebook Geek

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    can we get an update for when this baby will be announced? june?
     
  10. Orange Robot

    Orange Robot Notebook Guru

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    How much do we know about the dock at this point?

    1. Can the dock operate without being plugged into the wall? If not, what happens if you are playing a video game, and you want to wander away with your laptop?

    2. Will docks be offered without a BlueRay burner? I do not need one, and this sounds needlessly expensive.
     
  11. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    There is no freakin' dock, or if there is, it's unrelated to the external ODD/GPU which is not a dock.
     
  12. Orange Robot

    Orange Robot Notebook Guru

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    I appreciate your response. It looks like you are stating:

    - There is a dedicated GPU option.
    - The dedicated GPU option exists as an external unit.
    - The external GPU unit is not a dock.

    (I assume the 'dock' distinction is that the external GPU unit is not 'mobile'. Instead, the external GPU unit is meant to permanently reside on a desk. It likely connects to the laptop via a cable, or is otherwise not 'mobile'.)

    If the above statements are true, this laptop does not sound like an attractive option for me. I think the SA may better suit my needs.
     
  13. kevin1987bj

    kevin1987bj Notebook Consultant

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    I actually hope there is no dock, no DVD/Bluray drive, just a neat body with 1080p IPS RGB LED, and a more robust chassis.
     
  14. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, the Vaio z2 will come with an external component that will have an AMD Whistler GPU and ODD that will connect to the computer via thunderbolt(light peak). It is meant to remain permanently on a desk. This solution allows the laptop to be even lighter, at 2.5 lbs.

    Don't forget that whenyour on the go, you will still have access to sandy bridge graphics, which is very capable.
     
  15. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    The external ODD/GPU weighs about 1.5lbs. It doesn't need to remain permanently on a desk. You can take it anywhere.
     
  16. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    Well i guess you COULD, but that would kinda defeat the purpose.
     
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    lao3hero Notebook Consultant

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    Do u know if it will have barrel hinge like the old Z? TIA
     
  18. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    According to beaups the barrel hinge is gone to allow for more thinness. Here is a picture of it.
     
  19. pyr0

    pyr0 100% laptop dynamite

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    dream on...
     
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    kevin1987bj Notebook Consultant

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    looks much more robust than the z1
     
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    mobytoby Notebook Evangelist

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    arth1 a҉r҉t҉h

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    IPS won't happen. It's a consumer laptop, meaning more people will play games and watch videos than edit photos. TN displays have a much faster refresh rate than IPS, and is cheaper to produce too.
     
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    lao3hero Notebook Consultant

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    Thanks so muchie! U've helped me decide on an old Z with barrel hinge now instead of waiting. + rep :)
     
  24. hawk1410

    hawk1410 Bird of Prey

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    Is there any chance that Sony releases this at E3 2011, if sony does not release this in June I am gonna buy the Envy 14 SB
     
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    noap_ Notebook Consultant

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    It was rumored to be released end of June/early June a few months ago. Since then no update on that.
     
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    My friend bought it for me while she's in DC, not online, and I'm waiting day by day picking her up :)
     
  27. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    Not really. Some people, myself included, need an ODD only on limited occasions so I could take the unit with me the 10% of times I might want it and leave it behind and have the weight savings the other 90% of the time.

    The same concept applies to the slice battery. Just because I would want it only a handful of times doesn't mean its supposed to left on a desk by a power cord.
     
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    Endeavour1934 Notebook Consultant

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    Not on desktop monitors. IPS 8-6ms G2G has the same performance as a TN 2-3ms G2G.
     
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    requiem86 Notebook Evangelist

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    sorry for not going thru all 148 pages..but can someone that has been following the new Z series give up a summary of what the current speculations are? and any pros/cons?

    im trying to decide between SA and the new Z.
     
  30. Mclass

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    Hi guys, any idea of the price of Z134GX/B i5 460 2.53, SSD 128,LCD 1600x900 3G GPS brand new just around US$1500? I doubt a little?
     
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    blaqprophet Notebook Guru

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    Why does he have to dream, alot of notebook companies are including rbg ips screens in their high end laptops
     
  32. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    From what we've gathered in rumors:

    Its going to feature a 2 component system where the 2nd part is meant to be left on a desk.

    1st component: Actual laptop
    Crazy light (2.5 lbs)
    Very thin.
    SB i7 w/ intel hd3000 graphics (i5 optiosn as well probably)
    13.3in 1080p screen (900p option probably) Vaio Premium Display << beautiful
    SSD
    4-8gb RAM
    backlit keyboard
    webcam
    8hour battery life, 16.5hours with sheet battery

    2nd component: External ODD/GPU
    1.5lb
    shaped similarly to external DVD Drive
    AMD 6770m or 6730m with 1gb vram
    Blu ray reader (burner upgradeable)
    Connects via thunderbolt to 1st part (might be a thunderbolt usb3.0 combo)

    Barrel hinge gone (see pic above)
    Release end of june/early july
    starting price: around $2000

    http://www.sonyinsider.com/2011/03/...hybrid-pc-and-vaio-chrome-coming-this-summer/

    If money isnt a problem and you value extreme portability, wait for the Z. It will be a much higher quality notebook.
     
  33. dannisan

    dannisan Notebook Geek

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    6730 will be a big disappointment as far as i'm concerned. Since the GPU is external they are not constrained by heat or battery issues (since the external GPU is designed to be used when the laptop is plugged into AC power). They really should have gone balls out and used a superduper powerful GPU that can handle hardcore gaming.. I mean, why not?
     
  34. dannisan

    dannisan Notebook Geek

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    Can I add one thing, the Z will be the only vaio on the market that is made in japan. That's a big plus for me.
     
  35. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    Cost?
    too niche of a market?
    It will likely be 6730 with 6770 upgradeable. the 6770 can still handle lots of modern games on high settings.
    And in high hopes, the GPU might be swappable. :D
     
  36. requiem86

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    Thanks so much goldentreesang! excellent post summarizing the thread.

    For me...the idea of an external ODD and GPU is a no go...I have a powerful desktop...I don't need something else on my desk...when this desktop is so much better for gaming.

    If the external ODD and GPU was somehow very portable...that could change my mind...but i rather have the ODD and GPU in my laptop for my purposes.

    Looks like im getting the Vaio SA as soon as someone confirms the display quality...if the screen sucks...I'll try to grab an older Z model ...
     
  37. goldentreesang

    goldentreesang Notebook Evangelist

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    SA is a Vaio Plus display i believe, so not as good as the older Z's Premium Display, but i don't think it will "suck" either.
     
  38. requiem86

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    Are they better than the SB Display though?

    Lastly, out of curiosity - would you recommend Vaio SA or an older Z Series?
     
  39. Mclass

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    As I am, I'll take the older Z, just like choosing a 2009 Mercedes S class instead of 2011 E :) . One more thing, Z's made in Japan, as Dannisan said.
     
  40. 612kimx1853

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    Def. I would go for the older Z. SA and SB may have slightly better specs but I like the design of the Z much more. Display is very nice as well!
     
  41. requiem86

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    i just talked to a rep on the phone..and he said the S Series has a better screen quality than the Z series did...arg...i don't get that.

    He also said that a refreshed Z series wouldnt be likely until end of this year..like in Sept or something. He said that the Z series would never have an external GPU/ODD because its mostly targeted to business users.... soooo confused.....

    FYI - this guy was knowledgeable about laptops...he was a nerd...and built his own pcs..and knew all the lingo and parts/hardware by heart....so he was legit in his knowledge..and technical...so i kinda believed what he told me....

    soooo confused.....
     
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    612kimx1853 Notebook Consultant

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    I think your friend is mistaken about the extrnal GPU/ODD.. Search this thread.. This leads me to doubt the rest of what he has told u..
     
  43. Mclass

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    So the best plan is waiting for new Z, the luxuriest.
     
  44. requiem86

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    im done waiting...ive been waiting for like over 6 months.

    I just have to decided whether 256GB SSD is worth the $600 premium...on the Vaio SA
     
  45. TSE

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    You are going to be sadly wishing you would have waited in a month.

    Honestly, if you have waited this long, what is an extra month to you? Do you NEED a new laptop right now?
     
  46. requiem86

    requiem86 Notebook Evangelist

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    No but i am not attracted to the new Z Series...I don't want an external ODD/GPU...that's a deal breaker for me...

    so what else do I have to wait is the new Z Series doesn't appeal to me?? plus...its going to cost soooo much...like $3k for what I can get for 2k from the SA....

    FYI - the rep just told me that the SA is the new Z Series....lol
     
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    I just got an older Z yesterday :)
     
  48. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    why would you even consider paying for RAM or HDD/SSD upgrades from a CTO? especially when they use standard parts...
     
  49. requiem86

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    def. not paying for ram...

    I am just not sure how easy/hard it is to remove HDD and install SSD into the Vaio SA...if it's not easy...than I rather just pay Sony to do it for me..i dont mess around with laptops..i only have desktop experience .

    and what do you mean by Standard parts? how much worse is the Sony SSD vs. aftermarket??
     
  50. Karamazovmm

    Karamazovmm Overthinking? Always!

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    sony's ssds are proprietary, and sometimes use proprietary connectors like in the z11.

    to get to the HDD, basically:

    unscrew the bottom of the machine

    remove HDD

    install SSD

    close the bottom

    run a win 7 install

    download drivers from sony (those are listed in the first post of the S series lounge)
     
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