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    New Sony Vaio Z speculation/news thread

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by TSE, Feb 15, 2011.

  1. miki69

    miki69 Notebook Evangelist

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    1.3 MP camera :) Finally!! I really hated that crappy 0.3MP with old Vaio, I do travel a lot, and in the evening I talk with my son (usually via Skype), so finally he can see me in "better light". I know this doesn't mean a lot to most people, but it does to me.

    Cheers,
    Miki
     
  2. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    Hi, guys, I would interfer with sad news about the battery:

    Black

    Voltage (V)
    11.1

    Capacity (mAh)
    4000.0

    Electric Energy (Wh)
    45 Wh

    THERE WILL BE NO even 5 hours on it.
     
  3. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    Additional battery:

    Voltage (V)
    11.1

    Capacity (mAh)
    4400.0

    Electric Energy (Wh)
    49 Wh

    Cell (Parallel x Series)
    6 (2p3s)

    Lithium content (Cell/PAC)
    0.66g / 3.6g

    Supplied accessories
    Operating Instructions, Warranty, Safety


    Dimensions
    Weight (g)
    Approx. 520 g
     
  4. xxGenericSNxx

    xxGenericSNxx Z1 Fanboy

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    You would think that when you take the optical disc drive and discrete graphics out, that despite a thinner case design (albeit a now wider one), that they can at least have the same size battery as before.
     
  5. miki69

    miki69 Notebook Evangelist

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    old Z: 210 x 23.8 x 314mm
    new Z: 210 x 16.65 x 330mm

    quite thinner, but also a bit wider.
     
  6. Aiga

    Aiga Notebook Evangelist

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    ^ Unfortunately, capacity of batteries is mediocre.
     
  7. miki69

    miki69 Notebook Evangelist

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    yet they stated ~ 7 hours battery life (standard battery).

    Any idea on sheet battery dimensions?
     
  8. miki69

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    I was wondering that too. Now they have so much space inside, or maybe not?
    This weight reduction is commendable but to unleash true power you need to count Vdock weight at well.

    Cheers,
    Miki
     
  9. jdsun1

    jdsun1 Notebook Guru

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    This will not end will. I predict it goes the way of the Dell Adamo XPS and Sony is forced to re-release a new sensible Z as soon as possible once Ivy Bridge comes out.

    Remember this?
    Dell Adamo XPS is no more? - MobileWhack.com -
     
  10. xxGenericSNxx

    xxGenericSNxx Z1 Fanboy

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    Volume wise, the old Z is quite a bit bigger. (according to those specs)
    old 1,569,372 cubic cm
    new 1,153,845 cubic cm

    Or in another words, the new Z is 26.5% smaller in volume than the old one. (Can someone double check all my math please)
     
  11. Generic User #2

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    i don't know what those numbers mean....how does that compare to other sandy bridge lappies?
     
  12. xxGenericSNxx

    xxGenericSNxx Z1 Fanboy

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    Oh and with those measurements I did not include the external dock thingy. If you give me the dimensions I'll be happy to run the calculations. (maybe the SA would be something good to compare)
     
  13. miki69

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    148x16.65x220mm, weight: 0.685kg (Vdock)
     
  14. xxGenericSNxx

    xxGenericSNxx Z1 Fanboy

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    That's the Z's external dock, or Vidock?
     
  15. madSZuser

    madSZuser Notebook Enthusiast

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    So, did you experience crappy driver support as well??? I have the SZ series and I stayed far and far away after experiencing the bad support from sony.
    I felt that Sony Vaio was not a computer maker, but just an electronics maker who was only good at making stuffs people would buy. I thought vaio really didnt care about their product once it had been sold.
    So, have vaio improved at all???
    I really like this new z and ready to buy as soon as they introduce in us, but I'm worried about their supports and updates.
     
  16. miki69

    miki69 Notebook Evangelist

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    external unit
     
  17. madSZuser

    madSZuser Notebook Enthusiast

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    When they say 7h battery life with those watt/hour, I think it only means minimum settings for every components with minimal amount of work load as well.
     
  18. maven1975

    maven1975 Notebook Evangelist

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    Ahem... We are your support group. This forum has given me far more support than Sony or any other manufacture ever has. The needed tweaks will come.
     
  19. miki69

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    Can anyone please explain to me what is "Quick boot" feature?
     
  20. daninoc

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    I noticed dimension is 2cm longer than previous z1.
    I can see they had hard time squeezing everything in, but in this case they would easily increase screen to at least 13.3" (same screen is in SA anyways).
    The trick for me is that I normally, when running around meetings, I put my z1 in one of the folders/binders on the desk or shelf, as it fits in with regular papers, and it's safe from somebody steeling it :). Now it will peek out ;(.
    Same thing with SA, they increased the box, enough to easily fit in 14".
    Not sure why are going backwards in time with all the frame around screen and keyboard?
    330x210mm box can fit: 13.1" screen is 290x163mm
    13.3" screen is 294x166mm
    14.1" screen is 312x176mm => so plenty of space for all
    even 15.4" 16/10 screen is 332x207mm :)@WUXGA => well that'd make it cool=> edge to edge screen
     
  21. madSZuser

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    Yup, I feel you! When I bought the SZ I couldn't even connect it to my TV for one year until I figured out that I had to do some unintall from protected folder. I shared my experience with this forum and I hope I helped out other as well : )
    Personally, I don't like anything from Sony thesedays except for this Z and PS3 :), and I would not buy anything from sony. However, this Z is so ideal for me and I'm crossing my fingers that everything will work fine with great support from vaio.
    So, I guess this is an wishful thinking.... :(
     
  22. paul778

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    Two questions spring to mind....

    1. When do we expect to start seeing reviews of this? I'd really like to get some decent feedback on it before ordering...

    2. How does the US price compare to the UK price? If it's close to 1:1, is there mileage in bringing in from the US? How does this affect warranty?

    Like others I don't need the dock - only the lightness. Going to wait to see how it stacks up against the MBA first before pulling the trigger.

    cheers

    Paul
     
  23. madSZuser

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    Have you seen LG P430,P530???
    These notebooks have what you are looking for.

     
  24. Steve78

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    There won't be a Sandy Bridge quad core chip in a VAIO Z or S.

    If you want more power & efficiency and are prepared to wait, then wait for Ivy Bridge.

    Regarding the new Z, it's stunning! I'd not hesitate if I was in the market for a new machine. But my 2010 Z is more than good enough ;)
     
  25. Regex22

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    Since I don't like the external unit with its low GPU, can anyone tell me if the USB-Lightpeak / -Thunderbolt port will be usable with the sonnet external GPU dock?

    I heard that sonnet is building it for the displayport-interface, will there be an adapter for the usb one?
     
  26. madSZuser

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    No, I can't wait till next year :) I need a laptop that I can carry around. I'm sick of carrying mbp 17 and this damn thing is really heavy. I was actually looking at Thinpad t420s and x1, then decided to get t420s and I was about to order it today. Well, not anymore I guess : ) but the waiting starts.. :(
     
  27. Generic User #2

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    wait....i've never used a sony before. are we expecting special drivers for this lappy?
     
  28. Steve78

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    Most people don't need the Power Media Dock. Intel's HD 3000 is more than ample for 95% of road users. The i7 is overkill and not necessary so people should opt for the more frugal i5.

    Those speccing the Z upto the hilt need their head looking at. You are paying over the odds and missing the point of the Z.

    If you don't travel regularly and intend to plonk the Z on the desk for 80% of the time, then you really shouldn't be looking at the Z.

    Just my opinion...
     
  29. pmack

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    "On-the-go usability is enhanced further by the backlit keyboard with extra-wide palm rest"

    Extra wide palm rest? haha, is that how they're justifying making the laptop wider and still putting the same screen size in?

    The LG P430 has a 14" screen and is 329.4mm wide.
    The new Z has a 13.1" screen and is 330mm wide.

    SONY FAIL
     
  30. michibahn

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    i'm lovin' it! question is does the built-in hmdi using intel graphics will work in external monitors?
     
  31. Generic User #2

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    FARK!!! the z is too wide for my messenger bag -_-
     
  32. pmack

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    yeah sony seem to not understand that "ultraportable" relies on three dimensions, not just one
     
  33. miki69

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    Don't forget: Weight (with 6-cell battery) : 1.94 kg (P430) and low res screen 1366x786, LG fail? :)

    I guess each to its own..... :D

    Cheers,
    Miki
     
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    Does anyone know that the USB 3.0 in the main body can be used for other devices (or just for the docking part) ?
     
  35. miki69

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    for any device (even if not USB 3.0 compliant).
     
  36. dannisan

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    Yeh I don't get those two fans at the bottom, they wouldn't be very effective because they would be mostly blocked even if the hinge lifts the back of the Z a little bit.

    And when you are using the sheet battery, they would be completely covered as the sheet battery doesn't have a hole for the vents... hmm.
     
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    Does anybody know if the docking station has an isolated power?
     
  38. miki69

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    Good point.

    I really don't understand the use of those rubber feet below screen, plus they will get dirty in no time. :rolleyes: . If they suppose to raise laptop a bit for better airflow, why not making regular feet a bit higher? Anyways, I believe it would be better off without them.

    Cheers,
    Miki
     
  39. maven1975

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    Vents on the bottom! I could not use my MBA first gen in bed because of this exact issue. Hope its just passive cooling.

    Also, how easy will it be to adjust the screen angle with this setup? Doesnt look easy.
     
  40. slimpower

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    Sony UK did actually upload a video of the new Z series on youtube but has since made the video private. I can't access it anymore.

    I will definitely be getting one when it comes out, on Sony UK website it had the option of having 512 GB of SSD memory, which is very nice.

    But I found the same video here: http://youtu.be/mzOup9n4x7Y

    Please note that is not my account, the youtube account is Sony Nordic.
     
  41. miki69

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    There seems to be channels in the sheet battery enabling air flow to the fans.
     

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    The optical interface can be seen here I think. One can also see cables (optical fibres) in the motherboard pictures (in addition to the flat electrical connection) going to the USB3.0/dock port.
     

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    it is too bad they got rid of the optical drive from the laptop.

    The whole point of the hybrid graphics plus optical drive was that you only needed your one laptop for everything -- i.e a desktop replacement in an ultraportable package with the ability to downgrade the graphics for additional battery life.


    This is a throwback to the days where docks were all the rage -- providing extra ports and so on.

    Actually there was an old IBM series which allowed you to throw in a PCI full length graphics card into the dock.
     
  48. miki69

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    green backlit??? looks ugly
     
  49. beaups

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    ^Hey look they mentioned the green-tint keyboard backlight ;)

    It's hard to describe how light this thing feels. Those worried about the bezel won't find it objectionable in person.

    It IS the premium display.

    I didn't tax the CPU much, but with light web browsing, etc. it's dead silent.

    edit: I don't think folks should find the green objectionable. It's quite pale...reminds me of "glow in the dark" if that makes sense.
     
  50. requiem86

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    it is pretty damn sexy and the gpu score is x2 that of the old Z. i also like the dual fan system...very nice. dock is bigger than i thought it would be, but overall very nice. i think for people that got the cash and like/or don't mind the idea of external gpu/odd..it's a no brainier...new Z is King. For everyone else...either the LG or old Z. now lets just wait for prices. =)
     
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