New Sony Vaio Z speculation/news thread

Simple yes. Advanced editing including After Effects, Sony Vegas, or anything of that magnitude where you use layers, digital effects, and so on, not so much.

 

goldentreesang and ceffect thanks for the replies.

I would mostly be doing some simple re-encoding (mkv to avi for example, to get videos to play on the PS3) using Super.
I would also be using Adobe Premiere Elements to do simple splicing/removing sections of videos (non-hd videos).

I won’t be doing anything advanced like layers or digital effects.

I really hope the U.S. gets a No PMD option.

 

That's also the model number used by the Sony NL store for the customized Z21 I ordered, the 5 may refer to the i5, not sure.

Herman

 

I believe that the main unit alone will be very capable of that

Beaups has told us that all preconfig options include the PMD and the cheapest preconfig is $1999. He is not sure if you can opt out of the PMD through CTO but it is very likely seeing that sony uk offers that option.

 

The longer answer is yes, but not in real time. Adobe Premiere with an nVidia card with at least 1 GB RAM is going to run circles around it, because it can use CUDA. You can still do the same, you just have to wait a lot more.

Also, WinDVD/PowerDVD/Roxio Creator uses CUDA for 5-10x the performance when using nVidia GPUs.

 

If you can, look for a laptop with a nVidia GPU that has CUDA:

My older F-series had CUDA and processing videos was a breeze, much faster than I expected. Just something to look into.

@arth1
CUDA mind.

 

Keep i mind, I believe the CUDA acceleration is only compatible with cs5 and up.

 

Not true, I've used it with Photoshop and Premiere CS4. The acceleration is there.

 

the problematic is the quality of enconding and decoding with nvidia non quadro gpus, its quite poor. Intel and AMD lead in that dept

 

Pretty sure CUDA acceleration was introduced with the mercury playback engine, which was introduced with cs5.

Adobe Premiere Pro - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Quality isn't as good but the speed is greater.

 

You can do that on the current Z? Please share a link!

 

Which config did you order?

 

@maven1975,
Jesse B Andersen: ViDock 4 - Unbox, Hardware Setup, Software Setup, and Demo Videos


Something like this?

Cheers,
Miki

 

The Light Peak seems like the way to go for the eGPU. It just strikes me that Sony put a lot of work into the port without maximizing its potential for wider use. On the other hand, you may well be right that I'm over-analyzing the issue. The new Z is Sony's flagship/halo notebook. The company wanted to distinguish it from the MBA by providing greater capabilities (such as the eGPU) while remaining a thinner, lighter machine. LP was the best means to accomplish their ends.

 

What do you think? They're there for a reason.


Cheers,
Miki

 

Well put, that's exactly the way I see it.

 

I guess it's user removable after all:




Maybe it comes with proprietary screwdriver (since everything about sony is proprietary)

 

^Das what i b3n sayingzz!!!

 

^If I read the fuzzy picture correctly, looks like a 45WH battery as well, better than the 40WH that's been floating around, but less than the 57wh the VPC-Z has.

 

^Neat.

So much of the look of the new Z reminds me of the HP 5310m/5320m - very similar. This is a compliment. Even the underside, although the HP is actually neater in this respect as all the stickers and under the battery.

 

Here's my plan:

1. Get a MacBook Air this month once it's updated for my freshman year of college.

2. Sell it before the next Airs come out. Take a small hit, Apple computers keep their resale value pretty well.

3. Wait for Ivy Bridge to hit the MacBook Pros and the Sony Vaio Z.

4. Decide between the two.

5. Use that laptop for the rest of my college career in the Industrial Design program and be happy.

Hopefully the next Z gets 8-9 hours of realistic battery life without the slice.... I would buy the Z now if it had that, I just don't see the purpose of buying an ultraportable with a slice battery, it ruins the point. And also I hope the external graphics card next year gets more powerful.

And hopefully the 15 inch MacBook Pros get 1080P screens, much longer battery life, and better graphics cards. That's all I'm hoping for.

 

dream on kid.

 

You don't think the die shrink to 22nm is going to be significant?

 

^Not enough to double battery life. Still gotta light up the lcd and run all the other components.

 

Nope! Sandy bridge is already very efficient consuming close to 0 power at idle. Still most laptops consume 6 to 7mw at idle because of the other components such as the screen. When constantly surfing on wifi , power consumpiton goes to ~9mw. Maybe Ivy bridge will consume 8mw when surfing the internet. That is pretty much the available room for cpu improvement on light usage.

 

Can you play games on the monitor of the Z11,12,13? This would be what I'm looking for.

I read on the linked site that some nVidia Optimus cards can do this.

 

No, as far as I know the ViDock will only drive an external display.

 

Biggest i5, premium carbon, 1080p, 8gb, 128gb, bluray reader, backlight, extra battery.

 

they already have 1050p screens

 

Not quite 1080P

 

I know you are joking, but...
For some Vaio models, you needed the infamous Sony "bamboo tool" for opening them. After removing the screws, you had to depress latches that were quite far in, and only reachable by something really thin - even a thin screwdriver would not work unless you were willing to cause visible damage.

 

So this begs the question...

It you could have the Z13 or the Z2, new, at the same price, both with GPU and BluRay, what would you gome home with?

I have been using a SA the last few days and am not fond of its design. It just does not feel as "Premium" as the Z13. The deck on the new Z seems to be a shrunken down SA. If this is the case, its a downgrade for me.

Also, the keyboard on the SA flexes like in the video of the new Z. I has to be pushed with medium pressure to make it flex, but it can happen. The left side of the keyboard has WAY more flex than the right.

 

I'd take the Z2. SA and Z2 have nothing in common. One is built of extremely high quality and custom built materials in Japan. The other is common parts built in China.

 

That's fantastic!

 

I agree!!!
Can't wait to get the Z2.

 

jesus christ, i can't believe how thin it is. I'm just having trouble grasping the fact that its as thin as a MBA(albeit, not as small).

 

^not as small as the air?

 

maybe he means the 11.6" version, which of course would make it true yet poor comparison

 

The only thing I am worried about is the bottom fans. That is really asking for trouble. What happens when you want to sit it down on the couch while your working or watching movies? Wouldint it suffocate the machine?

 

to satisfy the pedants the MBA 13" looks to take up less volume. although i misread and didn't realize the Z2 had less depth that the mba 13"

 

A lot of concerns about this have been raised, but no real evidence of this has been shown. Those bottom 2 vents aren't the only intake vents. Theres 2 smaller ones in the back and I believe beaups mentioned the keybaord was being used for intake as well. And you could always just use the sheet battery.

Yea, the mba is more of a triangular prism

Completely OT: GOOGLE PLUS IS SO MUCH FUN!!!!

 

Sorry but the hottest spot in R830 is about 43°C, not 34°C (that's in idle) and with a i3 2310M, not an i5 2410M .. In addition, you're comparing SB which have a medium thickness of 24 mm, not 16.55mm ( and.. the hottest spot is 47°C, not 40°C which is in the bottom, but with i7 .. it's nonsense to compare only one side of the laptop cuz temperature will change in function of the choice of how implementation of cooling has been done).. even if there's also an additional GPU, we must remember that the volume is really bigger and that it's a loud laptop with powerful/loud fans. For the previous Z, it's right, 40°C but it's a really thick laptop and one of the most loud I've ever seen (SB has 47 db then previous Z that has 54 db... which means two times of loud noise due to logarithm scale).
In addition, samsung serie 9 gets nearly 49°C with an ULV CPU (but it's really silent), and macbook air gets 42°C with old ULV processors and it's quite silent..

No guys, I'm talking about chassis' temperatures.

It depends on needs. For example, for me the only thing that is important between length, largeness and depth..is depth, cuz I would put Z or Air into the university bag.. and due to books and other stuff, the really important factor would be thickness.

 

I guess I would choose the Z13, for the design. Also, I'm not sure how capable the Z2 is compared to the Z13 without the PMD.

I agree with your assesment of the SA. I had an SC for 2 weeks (not an SA), and the design was to much like the X as is the Z2 and the feel of the SC didn't feel and appear as premium as the Z13.

But there is something about this Z2 I do like - maybe its footprint.

 

the 13" macbook air is thicker at the thickest part, is longer, and has the same width as the Z2. meaning....

the Z2 is smaller, although the 13" mba may look thinner due to the tapering

 

what kinda logic is that? thats like saying half a rectangle is larger than the whole rectangle.

its an issue of math/geometry...not bad logic.

 

^ what Brawn said about tapering is true. Industrial designers use this as a tool to trick our eyes It looks small but it's really "large". Actually my current Z looks like half the thickness of my previous laptop but when I put both side by side the old laptop is slightly lower/thinner *gasp*

 

I'm not crazy at all about the new Z being tethered to the Power media Dock. You can't use the Z on it's own with the power adaptor when being mobile. It requires the use of the PM Dock to use the power supply for the Vaio. Very retarded and stupid to spend over $3k on a laptop that can't use it's power adaptor on the go without bringing along the PM Dock. The proprietary USB3/Lightpeak port is ridiculous to say the least since it won't work with 3rd party Thunderbolt peripherals without a non-Sony supported adaptor. Just read the review and they said the flex of the body is pretty poor. Stupid Sony.

 

The VPCZ134GX/B is $900 on ebay now. Buy 3 and do parallel computing! hmm... no... it doesn't work that way. Anyways it looks like they have 5 brand new on that listing at this moment. No BD drive though; can always DIY it later or whatever. bye

 

I wouldn't say it makes no sense but you did get one fact wrong. The Vaio Z comes with an adapter for use with the standalone laptop. And, as you stated, the dock has it's own required power supply. So you can indeed use the power adapter on the go