New Vaio 2008 model listing with indication prices - FW - Z - SR - BZ

Nice find! It may be a teaser image though.
By the way, you made me laugh when you said Greek!:laugh:
It's Russian...
Anyway, you may be on to something here. Only a little more time until we find out!

 

LOL, yes that's the one. It's looks like the lid of an SZ, but they had it posted in their website for all the different Z configurations. I guess they had to put something there in the meantime......

On another note, I took a better look at that post #501 (differentiating between the Z and the SZ lids), and it's different. The "SONY" name is placed differently on the lid and not sure what to call it, but that area where you can pry open the lid - the dimensions are wider on the SZ than it is on the tease photo Z. Do you know where I'm speaking of?

It's like a puzzle. where are the other pieces?

 

The new FW series definitely has a BD burner option...check leaked German data sheets posted in this thread and on home page.

 

I could be wrong but they may have re-used a C1Z/B stock photo as a temporary placeholder. We need to see more than just the lid.

Edit: Image for comparison (obviously it's a different angle):

 

I'm not saying your wrong, because your guess is as good as mine, however though that photo of the C1Z you posted is shot at different angle, take a closer look at how that lid angles down on all sides, whereas the tease photo is completely flat like the TZ and the SZ. Also, the "SONY" name is etched at a different location - not sure what to make of it. We need a forensic team for this one....

 

totally agree with you wxga+ would be perfect.

 

Sorry guys but I believe that's an SZ. Not all SZ have the dark letters.

 

First of all this is a great thread, thanks all for the hard work!

The main thing to be aware of when you're buying memory for a laptop (I mean apart form obvious things like speed, latency etc) is what it's made of when you compare 3gb versus 4gb.

If the laptop has only two slots of mem, 3gb will be made of 2gb + 1gb, and in that case, although about the same amount of mem is actually accessible by the OS (3gb against 3.3 or so), it will NOT be dual channel (different memory size in each slot), hence your ram will be slower than 4gb (2x2gb) in dual channel in the same laptop. Even 2gb (as long as it's 2x1gb and not 1x2gb like in the TZ where there is only one slot available) may be faster than 3gb if you don't use the extra 1gb, as it will be dual channel.

If you have room for 4 slots (not many laptops offer that), then 3gb may be made of 1gbx2 + 512mbx2, in which case speed will be better (but not power efficiency! ).

So let's watch out for the new serie, and see how many slots are available. If it's 2 slots (most probable), don't buy 3gb, but 4gb or 2gb depending on how much memory you actually need/use if you want best performance.

A frienf of mine just bought a Dell 1530 with 3gb thinking he was all clever not to buy 4gb with only 3.3gb useable by Vista32, not realizing that he was hugely sacrificing performance...

Hope this helps...

 

I believe that's not SZ, as all the SZ have the "Sony" logo written in a different place...but I also believe that's not Z. Anyway this picture doesn't help anything ,) Wohoo, it's hard to kill the time until 15th.

 

You're right about that. Check the image below (SZ6 vs SZ1):

 

Here's one more. SZ645.

 

Havnt gone through this whole thread, but can i get cliffs on whats going on? Any set dates or thoughts of when the Z is going to come out? Price? Thanks.

 

I called a Sony Centre yesterday to ask about stock for the TZ32 model (top model TZ in the UK). The rep said they only had a demonstration model left in stock and wouldn't be getting any more as "the TZ41 or something is going in a month or two"...

 

German data sheets for Z and BZ
http://rapidshare.com/files/128312198/Z_BZ.rar

German data sheets for all new VAIOs summer '08 (AR71, BZ11, CR42, FW11, NR32, SR19, Z11, TP3)
http://rapidshare.com/files/128325975/VAIO_SUMMER_2008.rar

 

Now that makes sense. What a great explanation; i feel educated. So 4GB is only overkill in the memory department, intriguing.

Blu-Ray option: Check
4GB Ram: Check

I can see my choice of configuration is going to be quite expensive.

 

Holy motherfarker... 1.49kg, Vram 128-256, HDMI.

I am sold... now if only these are sold in Australia straight away, and not the usual 3 month delay.

BRB... change of underwear.

 

Oh nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! 1600x900 with 13.1 and 1,49 Kilogramm. God damnit...

 

No Blu-ray though!

 

Thank you so much. Best post ever!

 

ANYONE has an idea will the z series has stealth mode like sz?

 

this is so fu**ing small, you need binoculars to read text. Not sure this is good idea for everyday full time use (for movies PERFECT), but for Office applications??

Maybe there will be an option to change resolution, just hope it will not look ugly (blurred/jagged) if set other than "native" resolution.

 

I see no blu-ray on the Z spec sheets, if they're not releasing blu-ray on these at launch (if at all) i'm going to be gutted.

 

Quite a considerable increase in power.

However - I don't like the hinge, the keybord and the 16:9 aspect ratio...

So its probably good that I got an SZ

 

There's no hinge on Z series.

 

SZ and now Z series were never ment to be with Blu-ray. Blu-ray was with AR and FZ (now FW) series.

 

What I meant with hinge was the general way the screen is attached to the chassis.
This large circular disc on the side...

Oh, and then there would be the "litttle design errors" to consider on the Z...

And I'm wondering something else:
The keybord - is it as responsive as a calculator?? (In terms of the way its build it looks the same to me...)

 

there is something called asynchoronous dual channel, 2+1 gb also works in dual channel mode. 1+1 gb is not better than 2+1 gb.

and if you wont use 64 bit system, 2+2 wont be a *huge* difference from that.

 

i like my 1440x900 even better than a 1280x800, so i think it is a better to have a higher resolution, not even for movies, also for working.

 

It was listed in the manual, and there was previous mention of it being added to the configuration at a later date (in this thread) are you sure there's no possibility of a blu-ray followup?


And wow...the Z is UG-LY!

That keyboard is so chunky.

 

what is "everywair" on the Z data sheets?

 

I'm sure blu ray will be an option on CTOs. Whats the point of HDMI and Full HD Without blu ray?

 

Everywair is the HSDPA (correct like that?) internet access.

Basically its internet "on the go" via 3G and a mobile phone contract.

The SZ supports up to 3,6MBits and the Z 7,2MBits (data Sheet)

For emails only both are overkill, and mobile downloads "en masse" are unlikely as you've often got a low data limit...

 

...need "VGN-Z11VN/B" like RIGHT NOW can't... be... without!!!!

 

Well..in our country we have a flatrate for UMTS/HSDPA starting at 19 Euros per month...

So downloading is optional too...

 

Same goes for Germany I believe, and also the UK.
The problem is though, that your limit may be only 1 ort 2 GB, sometimes its 5 or 10 though.

Thus its definitively an alternative if your just emailing, and reading the newspaper.

If you need more bandwidth for example streaming videos on a regular basis you'll reach that volume pretty fast.

 

"highend subnotebook", that just screams expensive

 

100%. Sony wants to boost sales of other laptops as well. So if you want blu-ray you have to go for FW, if you want small size then SR or Z. Can't have it all (in one). This was always Sony's (and also other brands) "strategy".

I wouldn't be so judgemental based on one photo. We need to get more images to say ugly or "not so" ugly . I remeber those days when SZ was introduced first images were totally "ugly" as they were taked from angle that made SZ look so chunky. Sometimes picture doesn't do justice. If you check spec. (hight) you'll notice it's almost identical as SZ which is definitely not chunky.

And about keypad, it looks pretty same to me as TZ's, again very slim and comfortable to work with.


BR
Miki

 

What makes you so sure miki? The manuals indicated a blu ray option, and with HDMI/Full HD youd think the Z will have blu ray as well. HP's dv4 is 14" And it will have blu ray, I cant imagine sony not wanting something smaller than 16.4" to compete with that!

 

If none of the Z-models will have the Blu-ray option that indeed doesn't make sense at all! Especially since it's in Sony's own interest that as much people as possible can play Blu-ray discs!

 

Ok, in the image the Z looks ugly.

Your theory about blu-ray; is this just speculation or do you actaully have some evidence because there is quite a few arguements to contradict it.

 

Weehaaa another great find by SpaceCowboy.

HAHA told you so!

 

Damn..BZ will only have 1440x900...there does my faith in them

What happened to 1620x1200 or some higher resolutions...I guess Z is the only hope for me then, since its the same res with smaller screen.

 

Z has 1600*900 option.

PS. So there are 3 european Z models: mn, vn, wn.

 

Same story goes over and over again. When FZ with blu-ray was introduced then everybody start talking about next SZ iteration will "definitely" get BR as well, which did not happen. For reasons mentioned above Sony is keeping BR only in FZ/FW and AR series. But of course in 2-3 years when Z5/6/7x comes out you may hope for BR, but I doubt.

BR
Miki

 

And if you check Z11VN spec. sheet you'll notice that this model is succerssor of SZ71VN/X (bottom right on the page)

Cheers,
Miki

 

Ah, my bad..in that case Z is the total winner.

 

Z completely blows away the Lenovo X300 and MBA. Dell E4300 probably comes close though.

 

I understand your reasons mate, and i'm sure you know more about the situation than i do, but as i asked; is this purely speculation?

 

cant seem to download the datasheet from rapid share.
can someone please please post the info for the z series

 

Blows them away in terms of performance, or thinness, or what?

The MBA is pretty feeble in terms of connectivity as has been widely discussed, but for those who want a gorgeous looking second PC for browsing on the couch or as a coffee table conversation-starter - especially if budget isn't a consideration - it's no doubt a fantastic option.

The X300 has some pretty nice features in terms of being tough and usable: the best in class keyboard, the Thinklight, the Trackpoint, the bathtub under the keyboard to help mitigate accidental spillages, the rollcage design, etc, etc... yet it's still very thin and very lightweight (if those are important factors). If it wasn't for the sky-high pricetag, the queries over the LED screen quality and the promise of the almost-mythical X200 on the horizon, I'd probably have bought one already.

I'm not saying that I don't agree with you - I'll make up my mind after seeing more pics and hopefully previews of the Z - but just interested in your thought process. Why is the X300 'blown away' by the Z?