New Z model with Intel Core i5 CPU

Whoever you talked to is wrong. I am logged on a student account and it is 7% for the pre-config models. No discount for CTO.

 

It is 5% for the last sig model costing 4k plus

 

The pre order one has verizon card built in. so the price is essentially the same.
I have placed my order for VPCZ11CGX/X. Now the wait begins

 

They said 5% for the CTO.

 

Yeah I'm curious what kind of SSD they are using. My buddy was telling me that not all are created equal - there are some pretty bad ones. I guess if it ends up being a custom job it'll be pretty hard to tell unfortunately. Obviously I prefer a user replaceable one (what are the failure rates on SSDs?) but I don't think it's a deal killer. The battery IS replaceable it seems, which is more likely to fail/wear out than an SSD I'd imagine.

 

True, I didn't calculate them all. Plus I don't think any of us our planning on buying that one.

As for 5% on CTO, that is interesting considering it is nothing online and others who have called up got the answer that it was also no longer going to apply to CTO. I am thinking each person you call you will get a different answer. I you go to SonyStyle store they only give discounts on models they have in stock.

 

Is it online or in the store? If it is online, I would go for the CTO.

 

Can someone post the link to SonyStyle USA with the preconfigured models. I keep getting the old Z. How do you get to the preconfig. list. In the search bar, it links me to CTO's only. Thanks.

 

Type z11 in the search bar on the Sony website.

 

I did, but nothing happens. Can you post link for me. Thanks.

I can get to the Signature Series, but not to those 4 preconfig. models. HELP!

 

Danm I just configured it and I can get errythin i want for 2049$ great bang for the buck plus(pwns macbook pros) or minus the extended battery!(is it worth it) or the support(is that worth it as well?) Is there an option for the 1980x1080 resolution or is it included?


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is 8gb worth it for $300?

1080p only available in the more expensive model? http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921666073686

 

The only way right now to get the HD display is to get the VPCZ11FHX/XQ signature model.

 

I heard somewhere you can buy batteries for cheaper from other companies (though you have to disable some software on the laptop). So maybe buy the battery later?

 

I just don't know about third-party batteries where the battery is also part of the case. Especially a new battery design like on the Z here.

But yes, Sony _everything_ has ways of refusing to work with non-original batteries, although I guess it can be worked around on PCs.

 

Yes, that seems to be the situation in the US market. The full-HD display (1920x1080) is freely available in the EU and in Asia, I believe. Why is the US being short-changed on this is definitely a mystery.

A similar situation exists on the F-series Vaio, where the EU gets a "premium" full-HD Matte display with 100% Adobe RGB color gamut coverage, in addition to a glossy full-HD display that is not classified as "premium". The US gets only the glossy full-HD EU-non-premium display. Again a mystery why the US is being short-changed here.

Things like screens, CPUs, RAM, GPU, type of Optical drive availability etc are all core things that impact the computing experience, as the US Sonystyle folks should very well know.

 

Speaking of which, maybe it's better to buy one of those universal batteries that sit under the laptop and plug into the AC port rather than the extended one. I bought one of them when I went to Japan and it made my old Toshiba last forever - I don't know if an extended battery would last beyond five hours, though I've never had any experience with Sony's.

 

Well, Sunfox explained earlier why the full HD screen is more of a gimmick than anything, unless you're really into that sort of thing.

So the new Z has a glossy screen in the U.S.? Does that mean it will reflect light like a mirror? I love those types of screens - in class I can see what the people behind me are doing.

 

Z always had a hybrid screen where its glossy-ish matte screen.

 

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...ogId=10551&in_dim_search=&keyword=z11&x=0&y=0

 

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...0151&langId=-1&categoryId=8198552921644702499

This should work.

 

Why does it say this: "128GB (128GBx1) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology"? How can you have RAID 0 with one SSD?

Also, if you just get the standard 128GB SSD, will one not be able to add another SSD later. Take my AW for example, if you didn't order the model with 2 HDDs, then you had to order a bunch of expensive parts to add a second HDD.

 

Wow this thing is amazing, expensive but still amazing.
One thing I have to know before I commit to anything.
How it handles temps.
I know this is not meant to be a gaming laptop but I do like to game once in a while so hopefully they addressed the high GPU temps when gaming on the old SONY Z.
I nice review when this laptop comes out would be nice, can't wait.

 

The resolution isn't a gimmick if you'd like more real-estate on a screen. I prefer a larger resolution. It becomes less relevant when viewing full-screen video... but as a system where an application can really take advantage of a higher resolution it definitely makes sense.

 

Yeah, the resolution itself isn't a gimmick, although putting it on a 13.1" screen practically is (screen 'real estate' is determined by more than just plain resolution, so that a 30" 2560x1600 screen could be made to show 'less real estate' than a 1280x720 screen if you adjust the right settings). And calling it "Full HD" like a television is all marketing.

I was looking at other brands of notebooks advertising their "HD" screens, and was shocked to discover they were nothing but 1280x720. You call that "HD" like it's something special? I was running 1024x768 back in the days of 486's and 14" CRTs!

 

The new CTO Z is pretty good value, especially considering what I paid for my 1st gen Z90 in 2008.

I just bit the bullet and ordered the new Panasonic CF-S9 Premium which has similar internal specs, but clearly different screen and such. It was more of what I was looking for and need.

It's definitely a good time if you need a powerful, small, light laptop.

 

Not sure if this is accurate... but it would be fantastic if it is!

 

Wow you bought the super expensive one? If you live near San Diego and that date is accurate, you should be getting it a day or two after the 8th. Make sure you come back to this thread and tell us all about the Z (like battery drain, battery life, heat, etc. etc.)!

 

It had all the specs I wanted... and the HD screen so couldn't go any other way.

I hope the date it right!

 

Can someone tell me why the VAIO® Signature Collection Z Series at $4499.99 is so much more expansive than the others? The only difference I can see is that the case is slightly different.

 

Your link sent me to a blank white screen. Strange? Thanks anyway.

Purrrrrfect. Thanks.
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So the preconfigured model I want VPCZ11CGX/X is 2499.99, but if you CTO, it's 2399.99 - $100 less. Go Figure the reasoning behind that. I'm doing them a favor by not having it built. But, with the 7% Student Discount ($175.00 off the pre-built price of 2499.99), I'll still be ahead $75.00 if I don't CTO (no discount).

Plus $116.25 off with Sony Card (5 points per $1) total w/ tax $2412.18. Is it worth it?

The question is do I buy online or walk into a Sony Store. Online provides a 30-Day Return Policy and No open Box Fee, correct?, But if I'm purchasing through the Sony Store, there's a 15% restocking fee and must be returned within 14 days.

I'm ordering online.....

 

It's fully loaded. About $450 or so above the cost of doing the same via CTO, however for that $450 it comes with the 1920x1080 screen that we don't know the upgrade cost of, plus the special case.

 

In Europe the cost of upgrading the screen is €50 (around $70).

 

Well, it looks like I'm not as lucky as the other poster regarding my order

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Either they had very few in stock and they're now all gone or they will update my ship date later... no sure

 

Add a verizon card to the CTO and the price is the same. no price diff between the two

 

In general, Americans are not very willing to pay a premium for a better product. Price is king here, and especially so now, with sky high unemployment, wages going down and prices going up.

In addition, the US is very conservative, also with new technology::
- Where the rest of the world had converted to mobile phones by 2000, with 100% geographical coverage and more cell phones than land lines, the US still has around 5% geographical coverage and 40% cell phone penetration. Many phone exchanges even still support pulse dial.
- Digital Broadcast Radio is still "future tech" for Americans.
- Digital TV was only implemented last year.
- Prerecorded music cassette tapes were sold here as late as 2007.
- Wide Screen and HD TV programmes are still few and far between. On the cable channels, a large part of the (small) "HD" section is really low res programs that have been stretched to 16:9. The average American doesn't even care about the difference.
- Americans still use pagers, more than a decade after the rest of the Western world got rid of them.
- Americans still rely on telefax, more than a decade after the rest of the world discovered digital signatures.
- Americans still pay with personal cheques, more than a decade after the rest of the western world got rid of them.
- Smart Cards? Good luck finding a reader that takes them.
- Broadband penetration is ridiculously low, and prices ridiculously high, due to oligopolies. (And Americans call anything above 56 kbps speeds broadband. I believe the EU definition is capable of streaming HD video both ways, i.e. at least 7-10 Mbps both downstream and upstream.)

Technologically, the US is a backwater, and has been since mid 90s. And we're slipping further and further behind.
So no, there's probably not a big market for the slightly more advanced models here.

 

That's a pretty big bullet you just bit, conics starts it at 350000 yen

Looks like a pretty mean little machine there, let us know how it goes...

 

I feel so gloomy after reading this

 

That's why I said same price range lol A fully decked out Z vs. the Panasonic is in the $4000+ range. After getting this, I can say I've owned most of the major laptop vendors out of Japan excluding I think NEC. I've been flirting with a Panasonic for awhile - the R was always on my short list - but come on, Z power in a G/R600 shell?

 

Pretty spot on. Although I don't find as many people paying with checks, but I saw one the other day.

 

I have the same date and got excited too. But sonystyle landed me on the ground confirming the on or around the march 19th date

 

Matte display - I would not consider it "premium" as it is mass produced and sold at stores "around the corner", anyway.

BTW, what's happened with the US tech market back in mid-90s?

 

Still no Vaio Z in Canada...

 

Just as I suspected (with all old Z's out of stock)....Sonystyle HK today posted up models of the new Z.

http://www.sonystyle.com.hk/ss/product/vaio/index_2.jsp

 

My personal guess is that it's due to the state becoming an agent of primitive accumulation; otherwise known as neo-liberalism. For being an alleged democrat, no-one before or after him has managed to privatise as much as Clinton did. Government funded think tanks, research and education all became privatised, in the belief that private owners would be more efficient. Yes, they are, but only at increasing monetary value, not at progress, which holds no intrinsic value for a stockholder.

In addition, the trade balance got shifted, which started already under Reagan.
First, manufacturing moved overseas.
Then, support moved overseas.
Then, invention moved overseas.
And now funding has moved overseas too.

So a typical "American" brand name product is now made in China, supported in India, invented in Taiwan, funded by Koreans, and bought by Europeans.

 

Amen! I hear ya. At least we still have McDonalds and Campbell Soup and what's left of Ford and GMC, pure Americana.

 

I have to disagree with this statement:

"...but only at increasing monetary value, not at progress, which holds no intrinsic value for a stockholder..."

Privatized entities are more efficient because of competition and reward. Progress is achieved through market demand and the (monetary) motivation to innovate and become more competitive. Increasing monetary value is VERY beneficial to stockholders so long as the company is run efficiently and with enough transparency.

The only danger that might arise according to your statement would be a monopoly entity stifling innovation because of it's stranglehold on the market (aka Microsoft.) But our antitrust laws are designed to prevent this.

 

Darn, you saw it before I did! I have been checking that page everyday for the past two weeks and I even called them asking when they would be releasing the new Zs. Looks like its going to be soon!

 

I also checked the page everyday. I contacted them a few days ago and they said they won't be restocking any of the old Z models (all of them out of stock)and to keep an eye out on Sonystyle for any updates. Now, we must wait to see the prices and when the preorder will begin and when it will be available for pickup.

I am guessing the Z116 and Z115 will be priced around 14980$ HKD and the Z117 to be 19980$ HKD following the pricing of the old Z series.

 

I think campbells soup is made largely with ingredients grown in foreign countries and, in many cases, actually made there. The original factory and HQ is still in Camden, N.J. (the murder capital of the east) and there are production facilities dotting the US. We produce in the US, only those products required to be produced by the USDA.

How much of Ford and GM's products are produced elsewhere. How long before McDoanlds buys Argentine beef?

LOL.

But I do digress. Can't wait till we see some real reviews of the Z. Then maybe i'll get off the fence.

Bronsky

 

But that would be a huge price disparity between the US and Hong Kong, especially so on the Z117 model, at least $300 USD + the lack of 1080p screen for the comparable US CTO model. So I wouldn't be surprised if the price is going to be a wee bit more expensive. Of course, by the same note, if it is 19980$ HKD...