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    No left/right-click buttons S series?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by hoodie232, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. hoodie232

    hoodie232 Notebook Guru

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    The latest S series 15" has no left/right-click buttons under the touchpad! This is very disappointing, I really wanted to buy this laptop. Like for gaming, how do you use fire and alt fire? And if you want to use right click for properties to change background of the desktop?
    It seems Sony is copying Macbook Pro's touchpad design which is not appropriate and a disgrace of the Vaio, correct me if I'm wrong.
     
  2. python76

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    I believe its bottom left and bottom right are registered as different clicks
     
  3. hoodie232

    hoodie232 Notebook Guru

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    I need to be sure if someone actually has this laptop. With Macbook Pro you have to tap two times with two fingers for alternate click. If that's the case, it's useless to me. I tried to ask Sony's official notebook support forum but they wont respond. Hope anyone can convince me to still buying the S series, beause I'm still interested.
     
  4. ceffect

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    Python is correct that the bottom corners are the left and right click.

    I tried one in-store and was unable to click both at the same time so gaming will be difficult. I wouldn't even recommend using a touch pad for gaming so an external mouse is your best bet for that aspect. As for general use, the buttons are perfectly fine and responsive.

    Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2
     
  5. Croak

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    On top of that, you can use the Synaptics control panel to increase the size of the right click zone to be as big as the entire right half the touchpad (default is the bottom right quarter of the touchpad).

    That said, it still sucks for some things because you run the risk of having pointer movement while attempting to click. I prefer discrete buttons myself and could give a if it looks like an Apple touchpad, the company that still thinks one button is enough for a mouse.

    And THAT said, in all my years using laptops, I've probably got less than an hour of total trackpad use, if you added all the time up. I'm a mouse guy, to me using the trackpad is like using your mouth to hold something when your hands are full...you only do it when necessary, it's messy, and you look silly doing it.
     
  6. hoodie232

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    Exactly my point. Thanks everyone, I have made up my mind. I am not going for it. I hope the next most powerful VAIO will bring back seperate buttons. But I doubt it.
     
  7. Achusaysblessyou

    Achusaysblessyou eecs geek ftw :D

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    True, but you could always learn to tap to select, but i guess nothing beats discrete buttons. Sadly, this is one influence that Apple has that the other notebook manufacturers have butchered. All they have done is aesthetically imitated the MBP's and MBA's touchpad, but have failed to imitate the awesome scrolling (fault of the OS too) and have taken the negatives, integrated buttons which leaves us with an okay touchpad with integrated buttons.
     
  8. specLegacy

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    I was able to play with a display model at the Sony Store. A two-finger tap also acts as a right-click
     
  9. alastiar

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    I had the same problem too, its bugging the crap out of me and holding me back from buying it
     
  10. ngvuanh

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    That's totally right.
    2 fingers tap replaces right click, so you mostly don't use actual left and right buttons.
     
  11. ascariss

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    I used the new S15 at a sony booth here, and the right and left click work quite well, the buttons that is, and the 2 finger scroll worked quite well, the pinch to zoom wasn't the best in the browser though.
     
  12. wizzardxexe

    wizzardxexe Notebook Consultant

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    Gaming... with a trackpad?
    ...ok...
    The trackpad on the s15 is much better than any other non-osx laptop I have used. And the scrolling is much smoother thanks to modern drivers.
     
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    Would the old SA work? Its still as good :)
     
  14. Sick Nick

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    Almost, the screen on the new premium 13" is better, ivy bridge cpu's are a bit quicker and the nvidia graphics blow the old amd graphics out of the water. So I would go for the new model :)
     
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    Maybe I got a Friday afternoon machine, but I'm typing this on a new S15 I've had for a few days and it has the absolute WORST trackpad I've ever used, bar none.

    Pointer movement is very erratic and unpredictable, pressure required is variable, and the "button click" areas are a complete joke - the exact sweet spot that you have to find before a click registers seem to move around at will, and sometimes, no matter how precise you are and how hard you press, nothing happens at all. Sometimes the pointer jumps to the other side of the screen for no apparent reason whatsoever. I've tried playing around in the settings, it's helped a bit, but not enough to make me wonder how something like this could actually find its way to market, especially after I've read people above say how great they think it is - is there some driver hack or update I'm missing?!?

    Oh yeah, on the topic of drivers, after I finished the nightly round of Vaio Care and Windows updates, any multi-touch gestures which might have occasionally worked are now 100% AWOL...looks like a trip back to the SONY store with a big no thanks if anyone doesn't have any ideas....
     
  16. ngvuanh

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    You are saying something just likes nobody else has S15.
    I am also using S15 and do not notice any problem with its touchpad.
    I haven't touched anything to the OS. Using straight from day one with just Windows Updates.
    Good luck with your S15.
     
  17. voyanger

    voyanger Notebook Consultant

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    My impressions of the touchpad in the sony store is that it is 80-90% like Apple's, which is better than a lot of the notebooks out there. I mean the most important aspects are fine, it is responsive and 2 finger scrolling is smooth like Apple's

    Apple's trackpad is still the benchmark because it is an absolute joy to use, the glass surface is nice to feel plus it won't wear down like plastics would. Also Apple's gestures are much more fluid and responsive, I mean stuff like pinch to zoom and rotation is seamless and smooth vs synaptics' jarring.

    Most importantly apple has nailed palm detection and thumb detection, you can rest your thumb at the bottom of the trackpad and still use it normally, this is a godsend in click and drag. Synaptics only has palm detection. My guess is that apple is using true multi-touch and synaptics isn't.

    However it isn't much of a concern to me as I already have a small wireless mouse already which I'm going to be using for graphics work and whatnot.