RGBLED LCD vs XBRITE-ECO dif

Whats the dif?

 

One is more expensive.

 

"ECO" vs. Sony's other X-Brites, ECO only has one backlight. R.G.B. panels are not Sony exclusively A.F.A.I.K., but they have 3 backlights- red, blue, & green! But I didn't know sony was putting those in notebooks! Inukami which vaio models did you see that have that panel B.T.W. because I want one! Imagine the colors possible, probably better than I.P.S. panel even.

 

oh i wasn't looking at sony's vaio but dell's models and i looked back the the FW model and that was different so i wasn't sure o.o

 

Well if it's not inappropriate in the sony forum, would you mind connecting me to the Dell model with R.G.B. L.E.D. since you mentioned it? I am always Sony & thinkpad for first choice, but that option cannot be ignored!

You know years ago I could really tell a difference in the brightness between X-Brite & X-brite ECO. Surely X-brite is still the better display, but I have to say these vaio L.E.D. even X-brite ECO with only one backlight is still exceptionally bright, even if colors are a little washed out. I'm guessing the Dell you saw would be a GREAT display for colors! I personally want something to meet or exceed the I.P.S. panel in that regard, and so far curent model sonys do not, for me. But depending on what you're coming from, I think you would like even x-brite eco. It is much better than most notebook displays.

 

Edge-to-edge Glossy 16 inch HD WLED LCD display (720p)
Edge-to-edge Glossy 16 inch Full HD RGB-LED LCD display (1080p)
http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/note...hs&cs=19&~oid=us~en~29~weekly_great_deals_6~~

 

Puhleeeze... A Dell? Are you insane? I cannot believe a Dell LED RGB LED will be any good because every Dell screen I have ever seen on a laptop, LED or CCFL, has had a blue overcast so that white is blue.

The RGB LED is available on the AW series from Sony Vaio.

Now you're talking....

 

Whoa! Anodized aluminum and... LEATHER?!! Like a luxury keyboard, except they don't look TOO expensive, relatively. I would have hoped for on a 16", like H.P. did(? I think), that they could have squeeze in a number pad in there. Theirs might have been 16point something. But either way those do look nice, especially for the price. I've never had a del, thanks for the link. The X.P.S. is out of control. Leather.

 

Well there you go Inukami- best of both worlds right there. A little HUGE... 18.4", but if you're already looking at that X.P.S. I'll take the VAIO. And if it goes over well on that one I'm sure we'll see it trickle down to smaller models soon enough.

Thanks Derrida!

 

Actually you should see a product before you speak.

The RGBLED screen on the Dell is quite nice (maybe not as nice as the Sony) and you shouldn't bash things you haven't seen.

I've seen multiple posts from you and you seem to always come back to putting Dell down. Why is that? Some of the threads don't have anything to do with Dell and then you start your rant. (see the next post after this relating to batteries etc when the OP was asking about the RGBLED screen).

Sorry to burst your bubble, but Sony is far from perfect and each manufacturer has their own pluses and minuses......

 

Well, you may have to hunt around for the RGB LED on the AW390 series because it's not on the new site on the US Sony Style. The AW290 series had it available and I believe I saw it somewhere in Europe's pages as well.

Unfortunately, it's not too clear that the US Sony Style Website has its act together yet. Just the fact that it takes minutes (not really, but long) to load on an SSD tells you something, too. But seriously, there have been so many discrepancies there and at esupport -- you tell Sony and maybe on the third try, they get it right. Oh well....

In any case, it has been available on the FW290 series so I suppose it will reappear somewhere again soon.

Just don't be fooled by Dell packages. Think of how they had all those defective NVIDIA cards in the XPS line and kept building them with them for months and months after the problems became known. Or think of those overheating batteries they refused to admit to until forced, etc., etc.

Anyway...Good luck....

 

Yeah the few AW's i"m finding around, I don't see it listed, or they don't mention that feature anyway if they have it. Too much to hope that $1400 a.w. at frys has it. DOubtful. Yeah I agree looks can be dceivng. I wasn't so much liking that leather & anodization so much as I just marveld at the very idea, but I've heard good things about dell business notebooks & I can't ignore a three color backlight technology for possibly better display. Either way you have to give dell credit for getting that new technology in there, especially at the price they offer. NOtebook displays are their generally a weakpoint for me. I didn't know vaios had it in previous models. Wasn't very popular I guess.

 

Yes, the XPS16 with RGB-LED is very nice, and Anandtech has a review vouching for Dell. The Anandtech review doesn't provide a comparison to any VAIOs (since iirc Anandtech didn't review any VAIOs), so it's hard to know just how well the XPS16 (and other Dell RGB-LED screens) stack up to the FW/AW, but going anywhere past 100% AdobeRGB is a case of diminishing returns, so imo any difference between Dell and Sony's RGB-LED displays would be relatively minor compared to the standard white-LED/CCFL display.

The biggest difference to look for is whether the display comes with a matte or glossy coating.

 

Here's the spec sheet for the AW290 CTO which proves it had the RGB LED available: http://www.sonystyle.com/wcsstore/S...etStore/pdf/VGN-AW290CTO_spec_sheet_FINAL.pdf

Since no such spec sheet is out yet for the AW390 CTO we won't know whether it will show up or not. However, we see from the the preconfigured FW series that high end features are now appearing in preconfigured models which used to be rather ordinary....

As for Dell's business laptops, that's a whole different ballgame. The XPS is NOT a Dell business laptop. Those series have very different names and generally much smaller hard drives (no movies, and all in the office ;-)). And even then, I had to go through one Latitude that died on the third boot-up before I landed one that survived for almost four years....

 

Hey inukami be sure to consider this particular configuration discussed on the deals forums, since you are looking at F.W.'s anyway. You won't get your R.G.B. of course but I.M.O. the specs look pretty good for only $1050.oo I'm tempted myself:


VGN-FW465J/H
P8700 2.53 GHz
4 GB
320 GB 7200RPM
1600 x 900
ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4650 (1024MB Dedicated Video Memory)
blueray, bluetooth, vista home premium 64

 

oh dude no doubt, i already bought it yesterday, i was just looking around at dell's laptop for fun and i noticed they had RGBLED and i wasnt sure what the dif was xD

 

Congrats!!

 

Absolutely. No quarrel with the "see it first" -- that's basic before a purchase whenever there is a retail version available.

As for the Dell put-downs, well, based on what you have suggested ("see it first"), I am speaking from experience. I had five laptops in a row from Dell that were overheating (to death, even, and in a few days) a few years back. One Dell tech told my tech that they knew there were problems but Dell refused to admit anything publicly-- and rather than sell me computer number six, this time from a different series, a top-flight manager told me that I should find another manufacturer. And then, several months later, the admission about the batteries came out and the major recall began.....

And I have seen multiple Dell screens in at least five of their laptop lines. Only one was a little less blue than all the others. It's only human to tend to extrapolate from that -- especially when the reviews people post on the Dell-hosted sales sites also complain of the haze!

I have spoken to techs at several Staples (and Best Buys) and the problems with their Dell Studio lines have been immense. One store complained of having people go through four or five (one person went through more) trying to get one that didn't die, have a rattler for a hard drive, an optical drive that wouldn't take disks, or an optical drive that wouldn't eject disks, etc.

Sony, for all its faults, has never told anyone I know to go purchase elsewhere rather than help the customer get a satisfactory model. Remember: Dell has restocking fees and Sony doesn't.

And BTW, Dell lights up in blue on most postings in this forum and Sony doesn't -- so anything I say is clearly over-shadowed by that automatic advertisement!

But, hey, this is a Sony forum. Let's share Sony horror stories. You go first!

P.S. I did some serious Sony bashing in posting #11 above, in case you missed it!

 

I have returned plenty of systems to Dell and was never once charged their restocking fee.

I have spent many hours on the phone trying to get Sony to send me parts to repair the few VAIO's I have had but they won't do that. Fortunately Dell will do that.

I am not one to send in my computer for 2 weeks while it gets repaired and I also don't care for technicians to come to my house either. This is why I love Dell - I have had them send motherboard replacements which they had no problem letting me do the work.

Both have their issues in the customer service dept so that is a wash.

Sony does have better quality lcd's for their systems but we are talking about the RGBLED screen for the 1640 - which is VERY good.

As far as the studio line having problems, what about the battery drain on my z? Sony is probably aware and they could care less. Or how about all the touchpad issues on the very expensive TT?

As far as speaking to "techs" at Staples and Best Buy - well, lets just say I don't exactly go by what some teenager says nor do I even go into those stores for anything

Last but not least, Sony will never tell someone to go buy something else and I am sure Dell has never said that either. Dell will also go to whatever length to get you a working system. I know plenty of ppl back when the 1330 launched that went through 5+ systems and all along the way were comp'd accordingly for their troubles....

 

The RGBLED screen on the 1640 is very nice, but the reds are over saturated. This can be kinda fixed by lowering the saturation in ATI CCC.

How good does the Sony FW screen look? I don't care for the overheating problems on the 1640, but do like the fact that it's LED, has DDR3, Slot loading, and it's slightly slimmer than the FW.

 

Neither Dell nor Sony charge restocking fees during the return period if the computer is defective; if you simply don't like it, Dell does charge -- Sony doesn't.

As for telling me to try another manufacturer, I recall that at the time I really couldn't believe that the Dell manager was blaming the defective computers on the customer's "inability to be satisfied" -- and since the purchases were on a state contract, I contacted our representatives with the written exchange so that they would be aware of the incident.

My IT department had done the set-up, witnessed, and verified the malfunctioning of the computers; the Dell manager denied everything and said, here's your money back, so sorry, we can't duplicate any of the issues, please try elsewhere. (He was unaware that one of the Level II techs had admitted to one of my techs that they knew they were having overheating issues in those models.)

Then, later, came the very large battery recall in that line of models as well as others. Suddenly, it all became clear....

As for major repairs done by the consumer, that's a risk a manufacturer would be taking, but I know that Sony will let you swap out your hard drive if they have authorized a replacement and sent it to you.

You have had good Dell customer service experiences and bad Sony ones. I've had some bad of both, but the best ones were with Sony.

So, I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

P.S. The techs I consulted at Staples and Best Buy were those who repair computers there under warranty (Staples is an authorized Dell service center, BTW, for those Dells it sells) -- not the "teenagers" on the floor.....

 

There's a AW290 Premium Customized Notebook sitting right now in the U.S. Sony Style Outlet as a Clearance (i.e., new) item with the RGB-LED screen:

In stock. Estimated ship date: 07/01/2009.
VGN-AW290

CLEARANCE - VGN-AW290 Premium Customized Notebook


Features:

Base Unit : VGN-AW290(7516)
Display : XBRITE-FullHD™ (1920x1080) with Adobe® RGB color management
Wireless Local Area Network : WLAN (802.11a/b/g/n) with integrated Bluetooth® technology
Processor : Intel® Core™ 2 Duo Processor P8700 (2.53GHz)
Memory : 4GB DDR2-SDRAM (DDR2-800, 2GBx2)
Solid State Drive / Hard Drive : 1TB [4200 rpm]
Optical Disc Drive : Blu-ray Disc™ Read Only Drive
TV Tuner : TV Tuner
Battery : Standard Battery
Operating System : Microsoft® Windows Vista® Home Premium 64-bit
Pre-installed Software : Microsoft® Works
Software2 : Works with HST / SP09-IRX4690
Photo Software : Adobe® Photoshop® Lightroom® 2.0
Video Software : Video Standard
Finance Software : QuickBooks Simple Start
AntiVirus Software : Windows Live™ OneCare™ 90-Day Trial
OUR PRICE

$2,618.99 $2,226.95
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https://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wc...551&N=4294961692+8134&navigation=Type of Deal

There's a bunch of pre-loaded software there, upping the price. But, anyway, apparently one has to refer to the model as the AW290 Premium.