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    SB/SC/SE series 1600x900 screen upgrade SUCCESS

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by niffcreature, Jun 18, 2012.

  1. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Can someone with an SC or SB series please open up their laptop and see if this is possible?
    Anyone done it before?
    Its a pretty cheap upgrade, it would be awesome if it just worked.
     
  2. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    My attempt to swap screens and cables between SA and SB series did NOT go well.

    I got the bezel off of the SB series just fine, a little glue on it. The SA series had WAY more glue.
    I took a piece of metal and stupidly twisted between the bezel and the screen to pry it off. :mad: Screen cracked. :mad:
    These screens do NOT have a metal frame on the front like most screens!! The only thing protecting the actual LCD glass on the front edges is metal tape!!

    I have another SA screen so I continued acting like that didn't happen :rolleyes:

    Swapped the screen cables and screens no problem. The SB cable is apparently a 1 channel cable so I didn't expect it to work without changing the cables.
    The SA did NOT work with the 1366x768 screen and 1 channel cable. All it showed was colored lines.
    The SB did NOT work with the 1600x900 screen and 2 channel cable.

    However... this is NOT conclusive because
    The SA series did NOT work with the new screen and original cable!

    So there is either something wrong with my SA or the new 1600x900 screen I have, even though the screen seems to be in good condition and is the same model as the last one.
    Unfortunately I think there is nothing wrong with the screen... which would mean the SB series still cannot handle the 1600x900 res even though the cables match up... But then maybe there is something wrong with the 2 channel cable.

    Need to do more testing. Keep checking the thread for updates. Tonight I may try the 1366x768 screen with the 2 channel cable in both laptops.

    Also:

    Changing the video cables does not force you to remove the motherboard, although the cable is tucked under it.

    I plan to try a Sony Z 1600x900 panel in the SA series, I will post a new thread on it once I try it.
     
  3. darxide_sorcerer

    darxide_sorcerer Notebook Deity

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    there are two DIP switched on the motherboard, and as far as i can see, one of them is directly related to the screen (it's right next to the display cable connector on the motherboard). i have attached to this post the pictures showing their respective positions on the motherboard. the first two pictures are showing the same switch. the last one is a different one.

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  4. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Even if you get this to work, you will only have increased the resolution, nothing else. The 13.3" of the new "Premium" SVS13 and the SA13 before it have terrible, low contrast, narrow color spectrum and terrible viewing angles. The Z's 900p screen will pose two problems:

    1) I don't think it will fit into the SA, as it is a 13.1" screen and the SA/S13 takes a 13.3" screen.

    2) Even if you can make it fit physically, the Z screen will cost you at least $400. Rather than up your investment in an SB - of some $1,000 pre-new screen - to $1,400, you would do better economically and performance-wise to sell your SB and buy a refurbished or clearance Z2 from the Sony Outlet or on eBay for around $1.500 minus proceeds of sale of the SB of around $600, so $900 net vs. $400+ to upgrade your mid-pack SB to a similar screen improving only in resolution.

    Clearly, the most economical way to get a [vastly] improved display would be to buy any number of $200-$400 desktop monitors. This won't help you if you are not a permanent office location, but I can't see the investment of time and $ into upgrading the SB with an inferior SA screen.

    I could be missing something here, though. Please correct any incorrect assumptions I've stated above.
     
  5. vkg123

    vkg123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    It would probably work for the S13 to the S13p/a, since Sony provides that upgrade option in their customization and it's only a $50 upgrade anyway so i'm assuming they won't use wildly different parts.

    Not on the SB to SA tho.
     
  6. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    First of all @darxide thank you for pointing that out and providing images.

    @lovelaptops: All I really care about is the increased resolution for more workspace.

    I now have the metal frame to my broken SA screen, the panel removed from it. I was thinking I could fit the 13.1" screen into the 13.3" frame.

    The vaio Z 1600x900 screen can be found for around 250$ + shipping. I got the SB for 500$ with sheet battery.
    Personally I don't care if I keep the SA with 6630m or SB with 6470m because I don't care much about detail in games. And like I said mostly I need the workspace.

    @vkg123: I think its just as likely that SB to SA can work somehow seeing as how the motherboards are nearly identical.
     
  7. darxide_sorcerer

    darxide_sorcerer Notebook Deity

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    since you have an SA screen available, could you please tell us the part number (or model number, whatever it is called)? or maybe take a picture of the barcode area where that number is mentioned and also the manufacturer?
     
  8. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    It works!

    I used the 2 channel LVDS cable from the SA, and changed the switch near the screen cable on my SB to match the configuration pictured (also what I found on my SA).

    The screen is a CLAA133 something or other, sorry, forgot to type it while looking at it. The original screen from the SB is a Chi Mei N133BGE-L31.

    Unfortunately, I don't remember which switches were originally flipped on my SB - but this information is only relevant to someone trying to downgrade their SA screen.

    Typing happily on 900p.
    :)

    Thanks again to darxide for pointing out the switches!
     
  9. darxide_sorcerer

    darxide_sorcerer Notebook Deity

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    this is great news. i'm glad i could be of help. i did a quick google search, and the SA screen should be CLAA133UA01.
     
  10. niffcreature

    niffcreature ex computer dyke

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    Unfortunately, the cable is kind of pricey, but its on ebay.uk
    VPCCA100C A1841202A V030 LVDS 2CHANNEL CABLE | eBay
    However, its possible that the 2 cables are actually the same and only the switch is required for it to work... I don't want to test this though, as I think either the 1 channel cable or the 1366x768 screen has damaged my SA when the switch was in position for 1600x900. So, attempting to use the 1 channel cable is not recommended.

    Also unfortunately, I did have to modify the inside of the lid to get the screen to fit correctly. I don't know if there are other 13" 1600x900 screens that would fit better (perhaps the Vaio Z screen?). It seems the inverter of the 1366x768 is just a little bit smaller.
     
  11. euchrid_eucrow

    euchrid_eucrow Notebook Consultant

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    Did you have to remove the LCD assembly in order to snake the new cable? I've gotten my replacement cable and verified that it works but I'm having a little trouble snaking the cable. I'm willing to take everything apart but I figured I'd ask first since you've completed the mod.

    Edit: NM got it installed just fine, had to dremel a piece off of the case as you did to get it to sit correctly.
     
  12. euchrid_eucrow

    euchrid_eucrow Notebook Consultant

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    Also, just for laughs i plugged in a 14" AUO 1600x900 panel i happen to have from another notebook to see if it would work but although i did get an image on the screen it was far too garbled to be useable. Oh well, if it had worked i might have tried modding the case to get it to fit.
     
  13. stronzetto

    stronzetto Notebook Enthusiast

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    Do you think a SVS13A display can work on a VPCSA unit?
     
  14. m_ugur

    m_ugur Newbie

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    dear niffcreature

    do you know how must i position switches for svs13 board to upgrade from 1366x768 scren to 1600x900

    https://skydrive.live.com/?cid=A132...cid=A132BE57C64A5D62&id=A132BE57C64A5D62!1631
     
  15. hondahoho

    hondahoho Notebook Enthusiast

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    I have a question , can we change the screen of vaio Z 2012 to the vaio S 2012 ? because i think the difference between 13.1 inch and 13.3 inch is not too much and i love the screen quality of vaio Z 2012
     
  16. milo77

    milo77 Newbie

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    Congratulations! I have an SB3S9E laptop trying to perform the same upgrade. My 4 dip switches for the 1366x768 screen from 1 to 4 are set as 0,1,0,0. Can you please let me know how you rearranged them to drive the 1600x900 screen? Thanks.
     
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    Congratulations! I have an SB3S9E laptop trying to perform the same upgrade. My 4 dip switches for the 1366x768 screen from 1 to 4 are set as 0,1,0,0. Can you please let me know how you rearranged them to drive the 1600x900 screen? Thanks.
     
  18. drmrsolds

    drmrsolds Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Niff, can you check and respond to emails Please.
     
  19. DARKuser

    DARKuser Newbie

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    Although this thread's been dead for a year now, I'd like to report my own success story in doing the upgrade. I received a VPC-SB with a broken 1366x768 LCD, so it was the perfect candidate for the procedure.

    I followed both the current thread and this one.

    The details (sorry, too lazy to take pictures):
    - LG LP133WD2SLB1 LCD (eBay)
    - V030 LVDS 2CH CABLE, 356-0111-8283_A (eBay)
    - some of the inside brackets of the lid and frame were cut in order to make room for the LCD; the screen itself wasn't touched
    - the DIP switches on the motherboard (next to the video cable connector) were changed from "1 0 0 0" to "0 0 1 0"

    Everything works fine afterwards (BIOS, brightness, ...) without any other adjustments. The quality of the screen is much better, but more importantly in this case is that the machine is usable again.
     
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    Andvari3d Newbie

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