SR gets very hot

Hey Guys,

Anyone else notice that the SR pushes out ALOT of hot air, even when you are doing relatively small tasks, surfing, etc. Is this a flaw? I mean, people are saying its one of the coolest running Vaios, but much like the FW(which people have mentioned it for), this thing makes my legs sweaty after being on my lapt for 10-15 minutes. Is this normal?

It gets very hot and pushes out tons of air and the fan is always running, even when running internet explorer....?

 

Try finding the Max/Min temps using HWmonitor. Thanks.

 

You might want to check to see what is running in the background. My SR does run very cool doing basic stuff like surfing or word processing. There is always a constant flow of warm air coming from the vent, but it isn't hot.

 

All laptops will blow hot air from their vents, thats how they keep the laptop itself cool.

Is the bottom of your laptop hot? How about the palmrest?

 

Yeah post here how many processes you have running and compare it with others.

 

I have 81 processes running after doing some housekeeping. I turned off indexing and caching just recently, and I disabled some vaio bloatware(media plus, musicbox, movie store, oobe and welcome center, napster, vaio survey). Does that help?

Should i disable any other services and/or uninstall something?

 

81 sounds like an awful lot to me, but I'm not running Vista.

A clean install may help you.

 

I'm very hesitant to run a clean install. Even while removing several services and disabling some vaio stuff, i had to do a startup repair, which leads me to believe i did some sort of software damage in the process(granted everything runs just dandy now...).

Prior to my housecleaning, i had 88 processes running.

 

81 isn't that much for vista.

I have 79 processes and my cpu temp is at 45 degree C.

 

On my SZ I've got less than 70 processes.
Currently 69 with SonicStage, Outlook, Firefox and the Taskmanager.

I did not do a clean instal, just tidied my computer up.
Got rid of bloatware, disabled usless automatic updates (i.e real) got rid of autostart stuff like quicktime and change a few windoes configurations.

Even if the SR has more driver/utilities than the SZ, you should quite easily be able to get down to 75 proceses doing nothing, possibly 70.

(Oh and this is running Vista Business, Home Premium should have less)

 

mine only gets pretty hot when i'm playing games, other than that its real cool

 

im on my Z with 84 processes running at 46 degrees
i am using "performance" mode for heat dissipation, can barely hear the fan..
plus, if you listen to music, you won't even notice its on

 

Hmm, I have an SR. Mine does blow out warm air, and even when gaming it's not like, SUPER SUPER OMG MY HAND IS BURNING HOT. Which I like. My friend has a Gateway and my other friend has an older HP, and both of them run very hot just doing web surfing, torrenting, and smaller tasks. I think the SR has very adequate cooling, it never actually is very warm at all in my opinion, especially compared to most laptops I've used.

HWMontor Reports:
44 degrees Celsius temperature. It's warmer in the room I am in currently though. I usually average about.... 41 degrees celsius. It's not very hot on the bottom though, and the air from the vent is warm, but not hot.

I am running about 65 processes right now (normally about 62 with bluetooth stuff, anti-virus, firewall, but I'm currently running WMP, aMSN, Task Manager and Firefox). =D

 

ah okay, so i suppose its normal then, current temp hovering round 43-45 celsius with about 79 processes running.

I also disabled transparecy and some windows proccesses and startup items.

So im overreacting, typical. haha, thanks everyone.

 

Ohh, I haven't disabled much of those. I have disabled the unnecessary start up items that I knew weren't useful. Otherwise, most everything else I left....

How weird. I eliminated a lot of stuff that came with this laptop though. XD

But yeah, all of my friend practically admire the speed and adequate cooling this laptop has.... It's kinda sad.

 

Yeah that looks fine to me! If you want to lower your temps, have a look at the Undervolting guide over at the hardware section.

 

Wow, mine runs 56 processes, and it usually idles around 31C, but I've seen it idle in the upper twenties. It does heat up when running WoW, but only in the immediate area of the vent on the left side.

I felt sorry watching my friend break open his new Puma-based tablet, which peaked around 95C, in a desperate attempt to apply cooling paste.

 

are you referring to the HP tabel tx___? if so, i did hear those run hot. that's why i didn't buy one. otherwise, i probably would have had a tablet right now.

 

Yep, the tx2500(z?). It was so funny watching him try to route the ethernet cable away from the heat vent for fear that it would melt.

 

56 Processes? Good lord, wat did you disable/uninstall? and if so, where is the guide?

I've done some of the stuff suggested on NBR's vista tweaks, plus some other 10 vista tweaks site.

I'm not messing around with most of the stuff suggested on Viper Services, it's a bit too risky for my blood.

I disabled indexing, uninstalled some junk, and tinkered with visual stuff(disabled transparency), disabled some windows services like fax, tablet support, tmm, etc.

what else should i do? i noticed sidebar takes 100mb of ram and 1 process, should i remove it? any thoghts? any suggestions on what to remove?

 

Well get rid of the sidebar unless you really need it.

Then, download CCleaner to clean up temporary files and have a look under extras.

Go to Autostart and kill off anything you know you wont need.
(Leave stuff you don't recognize alone)
For example "realupdates" "adobe quick start" (unless your a very heavy adobe user, I use the adobe reader but don't need it), "qtask" from quicktime.
That's a good start. I've got Aero running and am below 70 processes.

If I turn on my computer and leave it a while not doing anything it will drop to 63 processes.
Then it depends on your antivirus. CA uses 8 or more processes, I think Kaspersky only uses 2.
Have a very good look at the services and check dependencies, you can possibly disable some more.
(Oh, and I've got indexing running)

 

After a clean install?

79 or 81 still sounds like an awful lot to me. 50-60 seems reasonable under Vista.

Maybe I'm a special case cause I run my XP with 19 processes. I don't even install a virus scanner because of the overhead.

 

No I haven't done a clean install on vista and I had stuff running when I checked the task manager.. I got 3 gigs so whats a few more processes to me.

 

19 processes in XP???

Safe mode on my latop uses I think 17...

How do you get that "low"??
Is all that's left a typewriter?

Also, won't the processes depend a bit on the hardware.
I think the SZ runs fewer processes on the NVidia than on the Intel Chipset...

Actually, just thinking, 80 processes on a clean instal of Vista is possible because it'll have all sorts of useless stuff activated that you don't need.

A few more processes means a lot less CPU "power" available when you need it.

I played Empire Earth 2 on an old Medion laptop, it was just barely above minimum requirements reagrding the CPU. Chucking out any process that wasn't necessary increased performance a lot.

 

Well one of the things I do is I install drivers manually, and never with automated install procedures. Other than that I keep my startup files almost empty with CCleaner. I never install auto update programs. I do not install Adobe (except flash) and a minimum amount of MS software. Another good way of keeping procceses low. And as I said no virusscanner or spyware protection that are running in memory.

It's not important to everyone, but it's good for battery life and responsiveness.

Well when I am referring to a clean install, I don't mean an install with all Sony utilities installed. Like you say most of it is useless.

 

Well I installed all drivers manually on my Medion laptop...

Anyway it worked.

So what have we got as "cleanup-values" for Vista?

I think my SZ gets as low as 63 processes when idling.

ILoveMoogles has got 62 processes.

ccutlip was running 56 processes.

I wonder, is there any way to pool all knowledge/experience to write a "useful for everybody" optimization guide?
For example I didn't touch anything associated with connections in case I need it.
Some people may need Indexing, I'm not sure whether I need it, but kept it for example.
But then to most people (including me) the sidebar is useless.

And of course CCleaner as PhilFlow mentioned - I disable stuff from realplayer, Adobe, quicktime...

 

I've done some relatively easy tweaks, have NOT run CCleaner yet...although i will very soon. and am running around 77 processes as of right now.

With sidebar open and transparency on it jumps up to around 79-81 depending on what else im running(IE, chrome, or watever). But i believe it was running 88 out of the box.

Question, should i remove WindowsLiveOne? Does it hog resources? Is there an alternative that does performance tweaks, virus scan, and malware/adware protection. Yes I know i can get ZoneAlarm and Adaware for free....but zonealarm is a pain in the butt(and seems to be a resource hog too..or is it?). If there is a cheap/free alternative(s) that are not resource heavy, im open for suggestions.

 

There is an alternative that costs.
Kaspersky, but its one of the best.
Also, it uses very little resources, I think it only uses two processes.
The sidebar uses a lot of resources.
If you enter "msconfig" into your "execute" (or whatever its called) field you can disable auto-start objects, you may do the same via CCleaner.

 

Avira is the best free antivirus/malware scanner in my opinion. It has higher detection rates than AVG and Avast, and a smaller footprint.

You have to disable the annoying popup though. Very easy to find on Google.

 

I don't know about ALOT of resources, when i closed the sidebar, i gained 100mb of RAM back and about 2 processes back. So i'd say it's not a mindblowing gain...plus i kinda like it...it makes vista look puurdy. haha.

Then again...lots of the sony bloatware crap looked very nice, media plus even looked like the XMB(ps3 GUI)...but was a piece of junk and a super resource hog.

So is the concensus that WindowsLiveOne is a system hog and should be removed in favor of Avira or Kaspersky(or however u spell it)...?

 

Try it and see if you like it.

 

I can only recommend Kaspersky, yes you spelt it correctly.
They take on average 4 hours to release an update for a new virus.

But then, do a bit of research.

Stay away from Norton and MacAffee though, they basically eat resources.

CA (worked fine for me) doesn't need a lot of power, but a lot of processes, its also said to not be very good.

 

My Dell XP tower runs about 21 processes after logging in and letting it load. It shuts of pretty fast too, only takes about 8 seconds from clicking on OK to when it shuts down.

My laptop is pretty good for how many processes it's doing though. I haven't disabled anything of the UI but that stupid sidebar. I hate that thing. D: My Aunt "loves" the sidebar though, but her NR really can't run it well or anything.

 

well, today i decided to switch my laptop to speed mode with maximum performance power mode, and i noticed the computer just shoot off to 70 degrees, so i checked the options and noticed the "minimum performance" processor rate was at 100%, which i kind of found it useless, so i put it down to 50% and now im averaging 55 degrees...

i think that if you put even lower, like 5% the temperature should go down pretty considerably

hope it works...

are there any advantages in reducing the MINIMUM performance rate for the processor?

wouldnt it just go up if it needed more power?

 

StrongerThanAll, i'm guessing you are running a Z, which is different than an SR. The SR does not have a speed/stamina switch, you can either purchase the sr with a integrated or discrete gpu, but not both.

 

i know, but im runnning i am talking about running it on Performance mode with the discrete GPU, which would be the same thing i believe for the SR

I reduced the mminimum processor performance in the battery options to reduce heat

 

what are the benefits/disadvantages of disabling caching and indexing (what exactly do they do)? how do i do it?

 

Ah well, one thing you will notice, particularly when you have had your vista computer for a week or more and started installing software is that it will start making a loading noise(like its working on something) all the time, your laptop will become noisy and it will seem like the performance took a nose-dive from how it ran when you just turned it on.

The way to stop this craziness is by doing something called turning off indexing, there are various types of indexing(harddrive, and OS based) you can refer to the vista tweaks guide in the NBR Windows and other OS section. IT can show you how to deactivate indexing. The only negative to it, is that when searching for something, it will take longer as a result, but this is not felt in any kind of program or task other than searching for a file...

hope this helps!