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    Slow Rip Speed - Help!

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by radar2000, Jan 1, 2010.

  1. radar2000

    radar2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi everyone.

    When I try to rip a CD, I'm getting some very slow rip speeds. Here's what I'm using:

    Windows 7
    Winamp Pro 5.571 & Windows Media Player 12
    Sony Vaio Intel® Core™ 2 Duo P7450 (2.13GHz)with Intel® Centrino® processor with Blu-ray Disc(which seems to be a Pioneer BD?), 4GB RAM.
    Lame version seems to be 3.98


    When I'm ripping a CD to mp3, I'm getting 3 to 4 x speeds. The weird thing is, the bigger the ripping list the higher the ripping speed seems to increase. For example, if I have 10 songs that I'm ripping, the first song starts at 3X...by the middle it may reach 6x, then by the end of the list it might reach 8x.

    The Blue-ray drive never seems to spin fast when ripping...seems like it's only coasting when ripping a cd.

    Only on one occurrence did I get a speed of 20X??? ...and the Blue-ray drive was spinning like crazy.

    I've adjusted both the Winamp and Windows Media Player rip settings, I've tested different CD's, I've also tested ripping in both mp3 and wav...but still the same end result.

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks.
     
  2. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Well, an increase in speed is normal - you have to consider that the speed of a point on the disc increases the further away it is from the centre - the only thing that stays the same is angular speed.

    i.e. slow start getting faster is normal.

    Now maximum speed - laptop drives are slower than external or desktop drives - fact of life.
    Now the question is, is your speed too low or not.

    Have you got any monitoring software or something that reads the specs?

    I know Nero does that...

    Edit:
    And for MP3s - you have to encode while you rip... so that might not give full speed either.
     
  3. radar2000

    radar2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for your reply.

    I've been ripping CD's for a while now...on my old notebook (a 10 year old Compaq) I would rip CD's to mp3 with rip speeds of 20x+...using Music Match.

    As mention in my thread, only once did my rip burn at 20x.

    Any recommendations would be appreciated.

    Thanks.
     
  4. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    hmm... just looked at one FW model...

    Drives Speed

    Write

    CD-R x16, CD-RW x10, DVD-R DL x4, DVD-R x8, DVD-RW x4, DVD+R DL x4, DVD+R x8, DVD+RW x4 , DVD-RAM x5

    Read

    CD-ROM x24, CD-R x24, CD-RW x24, DVD x8, DVD-R DL x6, DVD-R x8, DVD-RW x6, DVD+R DL x6, DVD+R x8, DVD+RW x6, DVD-RAM x5, BD-ROM x2, BD-Rx2, BD-RE x2, BD-RE DL x2, BD-R DL x2

    ( http://www.sony.co.uk/product/vn-fw-series/vgn-fw51mf-h )

    This means a higher read speed should be possible theoretically...
    Have you got a utility to test it?

    And your old laptop - how thick/thin was the drive? I could imagine it having a larger more powerful drive which would have also lead to less battery life...
     
  5. radar2000

    radar2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for your reply.

    What utility would you recommend? I have Nero 6 OEM suite with a valid serial number, but I don't think this is compatible with Windows 7.
     
  6. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I'm not sure, I have never needed that.
    And I have Nero...

    Try a google search and see what looks nice :)
    (Best would be installation free)
     
  7. radar2000

    radar2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ***Update*** I decided to plug in my external USB DVD burner drive (a 4 year old SONY DW-G120A device)

    Write Speed
    DVD-R 16x
    DVD-RW 6x
    DVD-R DL 8x
    DVD+R 16x
    DVD+RW 8x
    DVD+R DL 8x
    DVD-RAM 5x
    CD-R 40x
    CD-RW 24x
    Read Speed
    DVD-ROM (single) Max 16x CAV
    DVD-ROM (dual) Max 8x CAV
    DVD-R, DVD+R Max 12x CAV
    DVD-RW,DVD+RW Max 12x CAV
    DVD+DL,DVD-DL MAX 8x CAV
    DVD-RAM Max 5x P-CAV
    CD-ROM, CD-R Max 40x CAV
    CD-RW Max 32x CAV

    With this new plugged in device, I was able to rip a cd at 27X. So this now posses the question as to why my internal drive only burns at a max of 8x?

    Any suggestions would be appreciated.

    Thanks.
     
  8. H.A.L. 9000

    H.A.L. 9000 Occam's Chainsaw

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    Well since it's the blu-ray drive it's rated **burn** speed is only 8x... but the rip speed of the drive should be a lot higher than 2-4x. You may need to get a firmware update for that drive. Check the sony support page for your model and see if any are listed. I have a blu-ray drive on my CW. It's a Sony OptiArc drive and I can most certainly rip faster than that!
     
  9. DetlevCM

    DetlevCM Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    8x is that CDs - then its potentially too low, if its DVDs it the right speed - the thing is, this speed is only reached at the outer edge of the CD/DVD.

    Sony, updates? ... not a lot of them... and firmware updates even fewer than regular driver updates...
     
  10. radar2000

    radar2000 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the reply.

    I just got off the phone with Sony Tech Support and have confirmed that there is no firmware update for the Pioneer BDC-TD01 BD-Drive. Not good enough... I've asked for someone in customer relations to contact me to discuss options, as I did not spend over $1000 to have an optical drive with a 4-5X audio read capability. 4 to 5x speeds may have been fast in the 1990's but we are in the year 2010 for crying out loud. I'll keep everyone posted on my progress.

    ...On a similar note, I've been following this thread from the Club Vaio site, as other Vaio users with this Pioneer drive have complained about the same thing... http://club.vaio.sony.nl/clubvaio/i...69DE011BD924313BA7.cindel-towani?thread=67306
     
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    Interesting. They must have made another batch with the Sony Optiarc drives. It's also interesting that Pioneer should have these problems, when in other notebooks of mine it has always been the Optiarc drives that fail.