Sony ?thunderbolt notebook? question

I read that sony is working on a “Thunderbolt notebook” does anyone know if this actually true and If it is will be a 17” inch notebook or a different size?

Also curious if this notebook is real will it have a USB 3.0 port also.

 

I guess it'll only be true when SONY actually annouces it. Until then its just speculation no matter what anybody says

 

that would be the new 13,1 inch Z
there is a huge thread about it in here

 

ok..thanks I haven't read that thread but I think I have see it

I was hoping they would put the thunderbolt port in a larger notebook (maybe they will do that also)

and have 2 usb 3.0 ports as well I guess we probably won't see that type of notebook until 2012.

 

Can I please ask a dumb question? How much faster is Thunderbolt than USB3? Regardless of how fast it is, is there a great use for it other than perhaps having external disks that are close to as fast as internal ones? I think I must be missing the importance of this. When Apple put it in the MBP and there is not a single product that it can interface with, was that supposed to give them bragging rights because they were "first?" Love the way they snoozed all these years though eSata, blu ray and HDMI but they really got out in front on Thunderbolt. Lame - or am I?

 

Apple doesn't do incremental upgrades every year, in terms of ports. But when they do upgrade, it's significant.

USB 3.0 is up to 5 Gigabit/sec (625 MB/sec).
Thunderbolt (aka Intel Light Peak) is currently 10 Gigabit/sec (1.22 GB/sec), bi-directional. It will evolve up to 100 Gigabit/sec over the next decade.

So what if there are not many devices making use of the port yet. You know for a fact there will be, so you can be happy buying a laptop and know it has the fastest port that'll be used in the years to come.

 

Thanks for supplying that info - now I feel lazy for not looking it up,lol. A follow-up question: is the architecture of Thunderbolt designed to be forward compatible so that today's MBP will support faster and faster data rates over time, or will it be Thunderbolt 1, 2, 3 like USB?

I don't think there's anything wrong with supplying ports and other features that are geared toward future support; it is a real service to customers because, eg, many people are feeling they must upgrade to USB3 so that's, like, hundreds or thousands primarily to get a faster port. Bad for the companies that prefer to have planned obsolescence (you try spelling that the first time!).

Sorry to persist, but I'm trying to think of the major uses of a super fast port other than for very fast data transfer to an external drive. Otherwise, it seems that there will always be a bottleneck until most peripherals support Thunderbolt, true?

 

well, the internal name for thunderbolt that Intel used is LightPeak because they wanted to use fiber optics as the wire, but I guess due to release dates, etc, they used copper and so the lowered bandwidth. That being said, because it's using copper, I don't think you can get faster. Someone correct me if i'm wrong.

 

i think i read somewhere that the whole point of lightpeak is that the optical part is in the physical medium, ie, the cables can just have a little d/o converter at either end built into the plug to transmit over optical rather than copper...

Im not saying that the cords are optical now, but that later on when the tech for optical trasmitters / receivers matures, they intended them to just be built into the plugs at both ends...

this info was from a rumor mill i think so could be fabricated, but sounds possible that the upgrade path will be more flexible if its transfer medium related.