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    Sony (VAIO) cheats consumers - Reach out for a Class Action Lawsuit

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by nanonuke, Aug 30, 2011.

  1. nanonuke

    nanonuke Newbie

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    Sony VAIO Laptops Configuration Issue
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    This is a widespread issue with memory and SSD’s.

    Example of the short-changing consumers

    VAIO Z Config with 512GB SSD. If you check your config/order if the order shows that 512GB (256 x 2). Check your actual physical configuration and you will notice they put 128GB x 4 SSD instead of 256GB SSD’s. This saves them big money and ripping you off by making you pay for 256GB drives and sending you 128GB drives.

    Another memory config. If you check your original order it shows 4GB (4GB x 1) and physically the memory config would be 4GB (2GB x 2 ) so when it comes to upgrades you are at loss since you cannot upgrade

    Misleading marketing claims are also another issue where the earlier 2010 model of VAIO Z claims that the Core i7 620M was a 4 way when it was a 2 way. This error was fixed after notification.

    Please check your config and compare to your order and reach out to this forum.
     
  2. rmcx

    rmcx Notebook Evangelist

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    IMHO, these configurations are actually more desirable. I have found in general that a 4-way RAID system is substantially faster (3.x times) than a 2-way RAID (2 times).

    As to the memory it should also be faster since equal chips in each channel should be optimized over a single chip in one channel.
     
  3. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    IMO...Sony is paying the exact same for 512GB of NAND, reguardless if it's split into 4 drives or 2. It would actually be cheaper for them to ship it with only 2x256GB, since that would require fewer controllers....
     
  4. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    Sony's cost is likely higher on 128x4 (extra controllers) and you get higher performance. What exactly is the problem?????
     
  5. Mitlov

    Mitlov Shiny

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    Faster or not, they should advertise what it actually has. Can someone confirm that the Z has four 128 GB SSDs and not two 256 GB SSDs, or are we just assuming that the original poster (a newcomer to the forum) is accurate?

    My understanding is that a four-way RAID is higher-performance than a two-way RAID but more prone to failure (four chances for a drive to fail, not just two). So there's at least a nominal benefit either way, depending on what you care about more.

    The main thing is that Sony should accurately describe the stats of its machines. But I'd like confirmation besides one poster on the internet before I conclude that Sony ISN'T currently accurately describing the stats of its machines.
     
  6. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    Correct me if I'm wrong here, but... like gas prices... the sign advertise the wrong price so long as the price at the pump is lower than the price at the sign. So, if you're getting a better deal than what is advertised, they may not be required to update the sales literature.

    2x256GB is nice, but 4x128GB in RAID will quadruple your IOPS and speeds. I doubt it's a cheaper deal. I'm sure the performance gain is significant over the 2x256.

    The same with RAM. 1x4GB does not have the same benefits as 2x2GB.

    In this case, it looks like both differences in what was marketed benefit YOU more than it benefits Sony.

    Of course, if you're unhappy with what was sold to you, I'm sure you're entitled to hold them accountable and make them sell you what was advertised. Perhaps you can run tests/benchmarks and let us know?
     
  7. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    I would like it if Sony offered 4 x 128 in a RAID 5/6 configuration. A lawsuit over a 4x array is a walking, talking argument for tort reform.
     
  8. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    And depending how you look at it, there are 2 256gb drives in there. Each 256gb board contains two 128gb drives.
     
  9. anseio

    anseio All ways are my ways.

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    HA!

    10char.
     
  10. dalamchops

    dalamchops Notebook Evangelist

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    lol phail thread.
     
  11. coolguy

    coolguy Notebook Prophet

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    I don't think of any benefit of a 2x2GB RAM configuration when compared to a 1x4GB.
     
  12. Qwaarjet

    Qwaarjet Notebook Deity

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    I am reaching out to state that my Z came exactly as I configured it :rolleyes: 4gbx1 ram and all. Furthermore, you are an embarrassment to your fellow Z owners on this forum, I am revoking your club benefits. :D
     
  13. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    dual channel. Admittedly, for laptop chips, not a big deal. However, two things:

    OP wanted (probably made sute in the specs, too) 1x4GB so he could easily upgrade to 2x4GB without having the toss both existing sticks.

    Dual channel, for Intel GMA HD3000 IGP gaming, actually makes a apreciable difference vs single channel (at 1366x768 and 1600x900). Ask around in the Lenovo X220 parts for more info on this.
     
  14. beaups

    beaups New Jack Hustler

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    ^But op got dual channel (or so he says) and is complaining about it.
     
  15. dalamchops

    dalamchops Notebook Evangelist

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    and its not like he can upgrade the memory himself (if it's a z2)
     
  16. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    yeah, that's what I was trying to figure in the first part of my post. I probably got carried away :p


    No seriously, the OP already stated why in the first post, and it was because of upgrades. He/r only wanted to have to buy one 4GB stick, and stick it in, instead of having to toss the 2x2GB config and buying a 2x4GB setup.

    As for the poster above me, the OP mentions "earlier 2010 Z i7 620M model," so I guess it's safe to assume he/she got the Z2.

    EDIT: and he/she cannot upgrade it anyways :eek:! boy am I slow today o.0