Sony Techs say NO ONE has complained about VT (virtualization)

MY posst in another thread.

It seems that sony is telling people no one has complained about VT, and they have not received any calls.

If you feel that you have been given false info call and file a complaint because the canadian pages which i have printed and taken photos of dont' show any sign like the signapore pages which states vt is not supported.



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my new job requires we use VMWARE and on my sony well things didn't go well.


So i know that sony had it disabled in the bios..... So i Initiated a complaint via my mastercard stating how sony on their candian site when looking at the specs doesn't list that it is disabled and that u actually have to search the site etc.

Had a person from management call me, saying that VISTA disables it LOL and i took him to intel site etc etc and then he said OH, well we can trake the laptop back or offer you a SOME CASH BACK.

THE FUNNY THING.. he told me not to trust forums like these because all we do is make up lies, and it's false information

and ALSO that no one HAS COMPLAINED ABOUT VT ON THE INTERNET.

 

That seems very odd. Has Sony merely disabled the ability to route internet through the virtual machine, or does it completely block the program instance? Would working with another virtualization program or even using a similar program in linux circumvent this bios restriction? Seeing this is a legitimate use of the computer, I do not see their reasoning in taking such action. :/ Sorry to hear about your situation.

 

Sony blocks it in the BIOS, so no OS that is 64-bit will run VMs of 64-bit even though the host OS is 64-bit.

 

that not true you can run 64 bit os in vmware


you it just won,nt use the cpu hardware asstianted

it also has nothinig to do with routering internet thoght virtual machine

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X86_vi...alization_Technology_for_x86_.28Intel_VT-x.29

 

PC Hardware
• Standard x86-compatible or x86-64-compatible personal computer

• 733MHz or faster CPU minimum

Compatible processors include the following:
• Intel — Celeron, Pentium II, Pentium III, Pentium 4, Pentium M (including computers with Centrino mobile technology), Xeon (including “Prestonia” , Core, and Core 2 processors

• AMD —Athlon, Athlon MP, Athlon XP, Athlon 64, Duron, Opteron, Turion 64, and Sempron

• Multiprocessor systems are supported.

• Support for 64-bit guest operating systems is available only on the following versions of these processors:

• Revision D or later of AMD Athlon 64, Opteron, Turion 64, and Sempron

• Intel Pentium 4, Core 2, and Xeon processors with EM64T and Intel Virtualization Technology

So from the reading i have done and complaints from others you need VT to run 64 bit OS in guest mode

 

You're confused.

VMWare supports 64-bit guest OSes, just not on the Sony Vaios (except the BZ) since Sony disables VT. One has nothing to do with the other. Sony cripples the laptop. VMWare can't work around a hardware limitation. Like the OP, I tried it on my Z running 64-bit Vista and VMWare and it didn't work. I can run 32-bit OSes 'til the cows come home.

The rest of your statement was a bit incoherent - VT has nothing to do with the Internet.

 

I coudlnt' stop laughing when the guy was telling me it was Vista OS that can't support it, and it disables it... And he goes that is why i prefer XP personally but people like vista better anyway

they will feed us bs no matter what.

not sure if the discount will do anything so i might end up returning it, and finally i got a good one after so many with dead pixels

 

so you tell me if disable intel vt on my bios my 64 bit guest will not work i don,nt think that true but am go try it

 

http://www.grc.com/securable.htm

http://download3.vmware.com/software/wkst/VMware-guest64check-6.0.0-45731.exe

 

Again, not sure what you're saying here, but Sony does disable VT on all but the BZ notebooks. So you can have VMWare Workstation (or any other virtualization product) and try to run a 64-bit guest OS and you'll fail. That's the way it is. It doesn't matter what VMWare supports; the feature is blocked at the hardware level. There are threads here (besides this one) which prove this, and I've tried it with Workstation 6.5 with Windows Server 2008 x64. If you want to waste your time, go right ahead.

Your profile shows you don't own a Sony. You don't know what you're talking about. Whether or not the processor or software supports the feature means nothing if the laptop vendor disables a feature you can't turn on in BIOS or anywhere else.

 

And the VT uber-thread for the newer Sony laptops:
http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=350209

 

I know what option just out curios what model intel cpu are intel vt enable too ? I know some low end intel core duo are not

sure sony bios does,nt have that option but not all

Yes also they hack to enable that some other post yes i don,nt own sony

both my machine have options to enable intel vt

seriosly intel vt not feature many people look for consume notebook i know alot hp buiness line machine do ofter that feature

I know x61 tablet does as said the buiness line sony include so why not just get machine that design for buiness not gernaly consume


what model sony ?

 

Read this thread. It's the Z for this thread, but most of the Sony notebooks - most of which are also marketed for business users for the record - have it disabled.

Sony has other features and design aspects that other manufacturers sometimes don't have in certain size/price points.

But again, if you don't have a Sony laptop, why are you posting in this thread? We're specifically addressing a Sony issue here; it doesn't matter if your machines have VT enabled.

 

I was considering the TT until I saw this thread. I hope they release a fix for this or else I'd have to settle for a Lenovo x200.

 

The Toshiba R600 supports it as well. I was contemplating an x200 (X200s, or X301, too) as well.

I have the Z and until now it hasn't bothered me, but having to test things like Windows Server 2008 R2 which is 64-bit only is going to get limiting.

 

These are my rankings for an 10"-12.1" ultraportable notebook based on what I think is valuable. Looks like it's a toss-up between the TT and p8020...

Attributes not listed I think are comparable.
1 = advantage
0 = acceptable
-1 = unacceptable

HTML:

Model            Chassis Size | Build quality | Screen Quality | Screen Size | Keyboard | Fan noise | CPU | Score
==========================================================================================================================
Sony T.T           1             0                1                1            1            1         0      5
Fujitsu p8020      0             1                1                0            1            1         1      5
Sony T.Z           1             0                1                1            1            1        -1      4
Lenovo x.200       0             1                0                0            1            1         1      4
Toughbook R8       1             1                0                1           -1            0         1      3
H.P EliteBook2530p 0             1                0                0            1           -1         1      2
Toughbook W8       0             1                0                0           -1            0         1      1
Toshiba R600       1             0               -1                0            0           -1         1      0

 

Not sure if you've seen the R600, but by all accounts I've heard, it's much better all around than the R500 was (especially both build quality and screen).

One that's miussing from your list is the Samsung X360.

But then again, the ones that support VT are small in number.