Ive bought a new sony Vaio. For starters lets talk fact.
Go into computer shop and look at this new computer. Go to Task Manager and look at the performance.
There is 1012 mb of RAM. But with Vista there is only 10 - 15 mb free to use.
Open more than one or two Expolrer windows and the computer runs out of juice.
Dont even bother trying to run Word or Excell or Outlook - Even one at a time is no good!!!
Turning this thing on and off requires no less that 30 minutes - even if you do no applications!!!!
Sony should be held accountable for releasing a computer that clearly does not function on 1GB or Ram
SHAME SHAME SHAME SHAME
Sam
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You're a moron..
Blame microsoft for releasing vista.
Its common knowledge that vista needs at least 2gb to run acceptably.
You can install vista on the most powerful desktop, but if you saddle it with only 1gb, its going to run dog slow.
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Yes, it is highly recommended to get 2gb in a laptop if you wish to run vista prem or above and now you know why
. Since ram is pretty cheap and relatively easy to upgrade i recommend that you upgrade to 2gb or more. Look in the hot ram deals for great prices.
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Thread number 15 about Vista performance of TZ.
Offered solutions sofar:
-Get 2GB for Vista
-Clean install Vista
-Clean install XP (even faster, even with 1GB)
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I have no problem being called a moron.
The fact is that if a big corporation like Sony knew, just like you seem to, that Vista simply wont work with 1 GB Ram then WHY release a notebook with only 1GB of ram??????
Maybe sony isnt as smart as you sweety!!
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They would be well aware of the fact, and I bet, if you ring up to ask any questions about it, they will offer to upgrade your notebook to 2GB to improve its performance.
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JabbaJabba ThinkPad Facilitator
I can understand your reactions, given that not everyone are equally computer literate. A lot of people on this forum and many other IT forums are much more knowledgeable than the average Joe. Or else they become that after spending some time on the boards. There are alot of "enthusiasts" here which cannot always grasp the fact that there are many people out there who buy a computer assuming it will function properly.
But often people get a bit irritated when a lot of the information could have been gathered by doing some fairly simple searches on the internet, including this forum. Also, speaking/writing in a fairly decent manner usually helps keep the snappy comments off your back.
Your post might have provoked some people a little bit, but you're not a moron for expecting things to work properly when you buy a so-called finished product (or what seems to be a finished product). But Sony is not the only manufacturer that sells PCs with less power than is adequate for Windows Vista. Just about all manufacturers do. Can you blame Microsoft for delivering a bad product. Yes. Can you blame Sony or other manufacturers for selling computers with inadequate specs to run the operating system they are born with? Yes.
What can you do about it? Read and learn. Good luck. -
Thanks JabbaJabba
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Lesson:
Don't use a computer with only 1GB and a 4200rpm drive to run vista.
Do a clean install of windows and even with the specs above, it will be faster after all "sonyware" have been removed.
Its understandable that the majority of computer users go buy a computer from a store and expect it to run smoothly, just like if you buy a car from a dealer, you're not expected to retune the motor, suspension, rotate the tires 1st day you bring it home. I mostly put the blame on Microsoft as they came out with an unefficient product that many people consider is in the beta stage even though I haven't had a problem running it.
I also blame sony for installing everything AND the kitchen sink in their computers making it more bogged down than any other brand.
Spend a bit of time here and it will make your computing experience night and day. -
From what I can see, the North American models are the ones bogged down with bloatware but not any other region version, or they have significantly less.
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I don`t think the orignal response people gave you was appropirate. The world does not revolve around IT people. Yes he could do a search but you would have to do this with every model you consider to purchase. This is time consuming. Some people do have work, family, etc. In fact i think the TZ is targeted at the upper market managers who would want something portable and most of their time would be taken up by work.
I believe Sony is partly to blame for this as if indeed the TZ is sold with 1GB then i would consider it a oversight by the Sony testing department (Or on purpose by the marketing department) if Vista does not run acceptable for the general consumer without 2GB ram. It seems Microsoft has pushed Vista across all new PC platfroms, even those that are designed as ultraportables and would be more suitable running on XP. -
America is a large country. I would expect that there are a lot of companies willing to pay a lot of money to get their trial software on an upper market Sony VAIO notebook.
With regards to the 1GB model, it would indeed be the marketing department who are responsible for the final choice in what each model should get. They are not tech heads and really should not be expected to be. A lot of marketing managers would not think along the lines of the most efficient models, but rather what different setups with different price ranges would appeal most to different market segments.
Everyone has their bosses to report to. The marketing department is simply doing their job.
If you, however, purchased it from a retail store, I would be quite annoyed that a sales person did not mention the fact that 4,200 RPM drives and 1GB of ram are not really suitable for Windows Vista.
I know that I personally drummed that kind of attitude into the sales people that worked under me, when I was in retail. -
Sony VAIO TZ150N/B - A useless Art Object??
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