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    Sony Z11 - Long Term SSD Performance - Post your results

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by ZoinksS2k, Mar 20, 2010.

  1. ZoinksS2k

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    That's just phenomenal performance, TRIM or not.

    When I get the new Z11, I'm going to try some basic testing with a clean Win 7 install and using the 9.6 drivers at the F6 prompt.

    Seriously doubt there will be any performance difference, but if you want a clean drive, that would be one way of doing it. Might do some partition alignment testing as well.
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 24, 2010
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  2. Endeavour1934

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    Core i5 540M
    8GB RAM
    256 Quad SSD (Intel 9.6)

    [​IMG]
     
    Endeavour1934, Mar 24, 2010
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  3. Oscar2

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    You probably just blew Window's tiny little mind :eek:
    If those numbers are 7.6, there is no such thing as 7.9 :)
     
    Oscar2, Mar 24, 2010
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    crrection, the 256GB is dual, not quad.
     
    blue13x, Mar 24, 2010
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    Strangely enough, these are the highest numbers I've seen around here and strangely enough they are from the dual 256gb... :eek:
     
    blue13x, Mar 24, 2010
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    I'm assuming he purchased his vaio z in hong kong so it would indeed be quad raid unlike the ones in north america.
     
    keisuke28, Mar 24, 2010
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    The asian 256gb ssd's r quads and the US one's are dual though
     
    gammaknife, Mar 24, 2010
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    No, it's the European version. It's Quad (4x64)
     
    Endeavour1934, Mar 24, 2010
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  9. Oscar2

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    It's pretty clear from the numbers that it is a quad.

    (I wish I had a quad :( )

    Next project: We need to get more of the 64GB drives and make 512GB that way, can anyone say 64x8 RAID! :eek:
     
    Oscar2, Mar 24, 2010
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  10. ZoinksS2k

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    Sorry, there are only 6 SATA ports on the HM57 ;)
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 24, 2010
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  11. Oscar2

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    OK fine, you've convinced me... 64x6 RAID it is then. If 600MB/s was achieved by one person on one benchmark, I'm holding that out as the gold standard.

    Therefore on a x6 RAID it'll be... lets see cross out the one, carry the two... whew! 900MB/s. :D
     
    Oscar2, Mar 24, 2010
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    Peter-X, Mar 24, 2010
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    Now that's reasonable, possibly even doable although we are getting dangerously near SATA saturation already.

    Placed on the future projects list. :)
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 24, 2010
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  14. kevinhk

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    According to Intel's HM57 Technical Document:

    http://www.intel.com/Assets/PDF/datasheet/322169.pdf

    It seems 6*SSD is not supported by Intel RST (with the current RAID controller chipset)...
     
    kevinhk, Mar 24, 2010
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  15. ZoinksS2k

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    Yup.

    It also says:

     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 24, 2010
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    So the mainboard does have 6 SATA ports, which allows you to run non-RAID drive architectures such as JBOD, but as the Intel ICH8M-E/ICH9M-E I/O Controller Hub (the RAID controller) does not support more than 4 drivers forming RAID 0, it seems you would not succeed forming a 6*SSD RAID unless you use some other controllers, e.g. a hardware RAID card (currently no mobile chipset supports more than 4 drives in RAID 0).
     
    kevinhk, Mar 25, 2010
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    Here are my laptop's SSD performance results with 192GB triple RAID 0...

    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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    [​IMG]

    Test : 100 MB [C: 15.1% (26.0/171.7 GB)] (x5)
    Date : 2010/03/24 22:25:11
    OS : Windows 7 [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
     
    sturmnacht, Mar 25, 2010
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  18. ZoinksS2k

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    We were joking :)
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 25, 2010
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  19. trueislander

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    I'm sorry if this has already been covered, but I'm having a difficult time finding the Intel Rapid Storage Driver (9.6 version). Could someone post a link for me? I'm guessing it will give installation instructions on the download page? My Z should be here in the next 3 hours... I've been getting all my driver updates ready.
     
    trueislander, Mar 25, 2010
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  20. sturmnacht

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    http://downloadcenter.intel.com/detail_desc.aspx?agr=N&ProductID=&DwnldID=15251

    STOR_allOS_9.6.0.1014_PV.exe should the driver to install.
     
    sturmnacht, Mar 25, 2010
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  21. trueislander

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    That link gives me a "Download Not Found" page. Got another?
     
    trueislander, Mar 25, 2010
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  22. sturmnacht

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    Sorry, wrong link. Try again. It should work this time. :)
     
    sturmnacht, Mar 25, 2010
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    Thanks, perfect!
     
    trueislander, Mar 25, 2010
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    gammaknife, Mar 25, 2010
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    I don't know. I didn't install them. It may have something to do with the use of floppy disks when you don't have OS installed yet. Someone here might know, but as for my laptop, I checked the readme file (section 6) and confirmed that the driver has successfully installed into my laptop.
     
    sturmnacht, Mar 25, 2010
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  26. lpx

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    The zips are indeed for installing with Windows. As it says "F6 driver diskette", meaning that you have to hit F6 to specifically give Windows the drivers upon install.
     
    lpx, Mar 25, 2010
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  27. ZoinksS2k

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    Not sure why this is so complicated, but here:

    99.9% of you need this file:

    STOR_allOS_9.6.0.1014_PV.exe - Windows installer. Use this to upgrade your existing Windows 7 installation to use RST 9.6

    Is you are installing Windows from DVD, you can use these to update the driver. This is optional, you can install the package above after you complete your install.
    STOR_all32_f6flpy_9.6.0.1014_PV.zip - Floppy for installing 32-bit Windows from scratch
    STOR_all64_f6flpy_9.6.0.1014_PV.zip - Floppy for installing 64-bit Windows from scratch
     
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    ZoinksS2k, Mar 25, 2010
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  28. gosuguppy

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    Maybe a stupid question, but how do you guys have triple/quad ssd (not configurable on sonystyle.com)?
     
    gosuguppy, Mar 25, 2010
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  29. Oscar2

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    Well, if you order the 128GB model it comprises two 64GB drives so is dual.

    All the others are combinations of either all 64GB or all 128GB drives (no mixing 'cause is raid 0)
     
    Oscar2, Mar 25, 2010
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  30. Sunfox

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    Look at the link in my signature. It shows the various SSD makeups in the US and Canada.
     
    Sunfox, Mar 25, 2010
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  31. MJFlash

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    Never mind...
     
    MJFlash, Mar 26, 2010
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    OK thanks. That makes sense.
     
    gosuguppy, Mar 26, 2010
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    I am curious; should I shut off the defragment schedule completely or will Windows be able to tell that my raid volume consists of SSDs w/ IRST 9.6 drivers?
     
    Qeuqeu, Mar 26, 2010
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    Kill the defrag schedule.
     
    lpx, Mar 26, 2010
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    win 7 is supposed to detect that you have an SSD and switch defrag off.

    how you know it has done this, i'm not sure.
     
    anandr, Mar 27, 2010
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  36. colonels

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    right click the SSD and in properties tab you can set the schedule under defrag

    ive had my drive for almost 2 weeks and the schedule was set to ON defrag every wednesday but it has never run.... last defrag was reported as NEVER

    so i guess win7 does know, but i shut off the schedule anyways
     
    colonels, Mar 27, 2010
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  37. ZoinksS2k

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    I'm putting your matrix on the front page. +1 rep for creating the list.
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 28, 2010
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    I did have an earlier one I made up (before anyone had received the Z) which showed logical *and* physical drive makeup, but I'm not sure if that might be more confusing than it has to be.
     
    Sunfox, Mar 28, 2010
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    ZoinksS2k, Mar 28, 2010
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    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

    Sequential Read : 527.585 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 381.578 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 162.097 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 279.207 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 13.789 MB/s [ 3366.5 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 54.102 MB/s [ 13208.6 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 92.968 MB/s [ 22697.2 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 58.482 MB/s [ 14277.9 IOPS]

    Test : 1000 MB [C: 8.0% (37.3/467.1 GB)] (x5)
    Date : 2010/03/30 3:39:57
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
     
    con5179, Mar 30, 2010
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    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    CrystalDiskMark 3.0 x64 (C) 2007-2010 hiyohiyo
    Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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    * MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]

    Sequential Read : 516.286 MB/s
    Sequential Write : 380.102 MB/s
    Random Read 512KB : 280.946 MB/s
    Random Write 512KB : 266.031 MB/s
    Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 14.027 MB/s [ 3424.6 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 51.597 MB/s [ 12597.0 IOPS]
    Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 92.524 MB/s [ 22588.8 IOPS]
    Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 60.154 MB/s [ 14686.0 IOPS]

    Test : 1000 MB [C: 8.0% (37.3/467.1 GB)] (x5)
    Date : 2010/03/30 3:49:40
    OS : Windows 7 Ultimate Edition [6.1 Build 7600] (x64)
     
    con5179, Mar 30, 2010
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    My Crystal Disk Mark results on a USA-spec Z1190X CTO with 256GB (128x2) SSD and 8GB RAM, Fresh Start.

    #1 Brand new out of the box
    #2 With Intel RST 9.6 drivers
    #3 Write-back cache enabled
     
    quasi888, Mar 30, 2010
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    #1 - Fresh out of the box
    #2 - Clean Install after driver installs (Inc. RST)
    #3 - Write-back Enabled
    #4 - A few days later

    i7-620
    128GBx2
    4GB
     

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  44. zwan

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    Hi All,
    First of all sorry for my very bad english. I try my best to not write mistake.
    I'm reading a lot of things about the Intel RST 9.6. There are many different point of view about the TRIM support through a RAID 0.
    Is TRIM support on the new vaio with quad SSD in raid 0?
    Is there any other solution to recover performance from the quad ssd?
    Is there any utility which can do that?
    What is Garbage Collection?
    Thank you for your answer.
     
    zwan, Mar 30, 2010
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    Sorry if this has been asked before but are the quad drives the same physical size as the US dual HDs? Could you make a US Z a Quad Core and boost it to 1 TB?
     
    boe, Mar 30, 2010
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    how do you post it like that instead of the way mine looks?
     
    con5179, Mar 30, 2010
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    about 1) the last news is that 9.6 doesn't support TRIM
    about 4) I really suggest you to go to the first page because is very well explained.
    about 2) and 3) i really dont' know...i hope yes because my Z is coming in Italy (that's why my english is worst than yours...) from Amsterdam...but i'm pretty sure that some Pro/Ace laptopSDman will explain us (soon or later) how...
    stay tuned....
     
    stracciarevenge, Mar 30, 2010
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  48. ZoinksS2k

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    Here's a comparison between the 2x64GB and 4x128GB

    [​IMG]
     
    ZoinksS2k, Mar 30, 2010
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    Sure about that? The documentation still seems to say it does for RAID 0 and the only contradicting evidence has been an article in another blog.

    Did I miss something in the formidable saga that is "TRIM on RAID" ?
     
    Treofred, Mar 30, 2010
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    Woohoo! Just received my new Z!

    Will be running some tests on my 512 GB SSD (2x256GB) and post it on here.
     
    dilwaala, Mar 30, 2010
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