So I have two Vaio Zs one is a z11 and one a z13 and I plan on returning one but for some reason the z13 has a bluer screen and ive checked all gamma settings and all are 2.2 so tell me which looks better to you all. There are more pics here Pictures by nyyankees3511 - Photobucket . Thanks!
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I like bluer/cooler, my prefrence
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I think the right one looks better as the colors are cooler and easier on the eyes for me.
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Its really weird because the text on the left one are a little clearer and a little more natural. I can almost match the left if i turn down the blue gamma on the right. Such a hard choice.
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lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!
I find it very hard to judge from the photos, but I lean slightly to the one on the left because is seems more natural to me. What resolution are these? Are the pics at max brightness? with nVidia or Intel gfx?
I am going through the same exercise! However, in my case, I am trying to decide between the 1600 X 900 and the 1920 X 1080. The latter's higher def is certainly useful for some things, but it seem to be 75-100 nits dimmer to my eye (no measurement equip.). Don't have photos - yet, but wondering if any with experience of both think the FHD is in fact less bright than the HD+ or do I have a FHD screen with defective backlighting? Any other pros/cons on the two to observe? I have no problems with the smaller text - can always enlarge with quick pinch-zoom on the touchpad.
One more question: both of mine are Z13's - one silver, one black. Did Sony get their act together on painting the palm rests by the time of the Z13 or do the black and carbon fiber ones still have paint rub off, like the Z11 and Z12 apparently did.
NYYankees, good luck to you. Does anyone have a good explanation why his two screens are different? Did Sony change vendors or specs? -
When I color profiled my Z122's screen, I was a bit surprised to find that it already shipped with a Sony-generated icc monitor profile. You might try enabling that to see if it gets rid of the color cast. (A color profile is a big table which converts RGB values in Windows to RGB values sent by the video card to the monitor. With the proper translation table between the two sets of RGB values, any monitor can be made to display reasonably accurate colors. "Accurate" being a whole nother topic which is too big for this post.)
The catch is, there are a plethora of Windows and Intel inanities and bugs which get in the way of correctly using color profiles. I'll try to step you through them. First, switch to the nVidia card - move the slider to Speed.
Now you have to load up the Sony color profile by default (if it isn't already default). Someone has already written a very nice step-by-step guide on how to do this (along with lots of cursing about Windows's broken color management system - this is the reason graphics and photo people like Macs).
Windows Color Management Revisited & Solution | Keith Slagerman Photo & Design
Just follow all those steps. Yes I know it's long and complicated. Blame Microsoft. This is supposed to be a one-step deal, but their implementation is buggy, forcing us to resort to this long convoluted fix to overcome their bugs. The icc profile you want to be default is called "Sony VAIO display profile_D65". Do note that there are two windows you have to set which look identical but are actually different. Follow the instructions carefully.
If it wasn't already the default profile and you're running off the nVidia card, then it should have caused a slight shift in your screen's colors. As far as I can tell, it works correctly under the nVidia card.
You may have to repeat these steps after you've switched to the Intel video card. It's been so long since I did this, I don't recall if I had to set the profiles for each video card independently.
The Intel card presents another problem. The Intel GMA drivers have a bug where every time the screen greys out or changes modes (UAC elevation requests, some screensavers, login/logout, suspend, switching to/from a full-screen game, etc), it dumps any color profile you have loaded. This is actually the same problem Windows 7 has, except we bypassed it by tricking it above into using our chosen profile as the default. Unfortunately, the Intel drivers ignore even this and seem to set the profile to whatever it is they're deeming to be default.
To get around this problem, you have to disable the Intel Persistence Module (igfxpers.exe) from loading. Open up the Start menu and type msconfig in the search field. Switch to the Startup tab, find the three Intel modules set to autostart. Under "Command" it will list the actual file that's run. Find the one that says igfxpers.exe and disable it. I'm not quite sure what this file does, but disabling it doesn't seem to have hurt my system in any way. And it should take care of the problem of your color profile being dumped by various events while in Stamina mode.
The Sony D65 icc profile actually looked better to my eyes than the ones my colorimeter came up with. They had a certain clarity and "punch" which my profiles lacked. The colors are a bit too saturated to my eye, but that'll probably be considered a plus by most people. I run with the Sony profile most of the time, switching to my calibrated profiles only when doing photo work.
I don't know if they updated the profile for the Z13's apparently different screen. One would presume that if someone at Sony cared enough to pre-make a monitor color profile for the Z12's screen, they cared enough to make one for the Z13's different screen. Anyway, it's worth a shot. -
Well I tried those instructions under the speed mode. The difference is still there and its huge. Ill post more pics up. I had a z13 before and the screen difference was also the same but i thought maybe it was a defect but this is my second one and the difference is the same. They are both 1600x900 all settings are the same.
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The engine compartment pictures are the most convincing - what's a teal cap and yellow cables in one pic has become a blue cap and orange cables in the other.
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It is definitely very interesting to see that 2 screens of "identical" make could have so much variation when compared to each other.
I just bought a brand new VAIO Z13 notebook last week & my screen is "warm", similar to the ones on the left in those photos in the 1st post. -
When I compare the pics to an ipod touch 4th gen with the retina display the one on the left matches it better.
Two Vaio Zs, which screen looks better? Help!
Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by nyyankees3511, May 19, 2011.