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    VAIO TT 11LN Upgrade : from crappy & slow hdd to rocking fast SSD !

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by ylezy, Oct 1, 2009.

  1. Rachel

    Rachel Busy Bee

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    I moved your post to this thread.
    As you can see in the pictures in this thread yes the Sony TT has RAID in the BIOS if the BIOS is updated with the new hardware it will be recognised. You can though use the disks as JBOD and then apply the Intel software RAID, i did try this.
    It has two SATA ports which you can see in this picture taken from the first post in this thread.
    [​IMG]
    I'm not totally sure about the other part of your question. It seems that you want to use this in another laptop and in that case i've got no idea and if the connectors are not the same i don't rate your chances.

     
  2. Trocalo

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    Hello Rachel, I´m sorry but I can´t see the second sata conector in the picture, where it is? Is the one conected to de optical drive? I have a TT21WN and I would like to install 1ssd + 1ssd + DVD it is possible?
    Thanks in advance
     
  3. Rachel

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    Yep.
    You need to purchase an FPC-167 and put them into RAID.
    I'm not sure how it would work out if you say tried putting a mini SSD in the wwan or wifi slot.

     
  4. Trocalo

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    ohh I understand now, thank you very much.
    I would like to ask you to more questions,
    1) It is only possible raid mode or I can have two different hard drives?
    2) My tt21wn has only DVD, no blue ray, it has a mata uj862AS Do you know the model of mata I should buy to change it and have blu ray?

    Thank you very much, and sorry for my bad english...
     
  5. Rachel

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    Before i tried RAID 0 I used the two SSD's as two separate drives. My laptop was not stable like this though. Just a small movement of my dvd drive was enough make my laptop freeze/turn of. You could try it and you might have more luck than me.
    You're using the dvd drive that will allow an easy upgrade to a BD drive. I had this drive and upgraded to the UJ232A BD drive.

     
  6. Trocalo

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    So you mean that I can update firmware of my dvd UJ862AS and convert it in a UJ232A? Is this possible?

    Thanks again.
     
  7. Rachel

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    To get a bluray drive you need to purchase the bluray optical drive. These go for under £150 on ebay.
     
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    OK Rachel, thank you very much, you are very nice with me.

    Regards.
     
  9. Miguel_79

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    Hello, first of all thank you very much for the help that you offer.

    I have a Vaio VGN-TT11WN_B with bios: R2022M4 (EC Version: K0240M4).

    I just won an ebay auction a SSDNow V 128GB SSD 180 Kingston Micro SATA 2, set it up on my TT, and I know that to get the best performance of an SSD should enable AHCI mode, but in my bios there is no such option.

    Searching by google I've found this forum and I've seen that quote modified bios, I know it is for a Vaio VGN-TT26LN, but I see that the BIOS is supposed to be the same (R2022M4), and I wondered if this modified bios would be valid for my model, and if it would serve to enable AHCI mode, thank you very much, a greeting. Indeed, the link no longer works, so I have no way to get that bios, if you has and can reraise, I appreciate it.

    PD: Sorry for my english, im using google translator.
     
  10. commoner89

    commoner89 Newbie

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    Hello, about this upgrade to using 2 SSD,can someone confirm me whether i can use this type of SSD or not? i'm noob in this computer stuff...

    [​IMG]

    thanks
     
  11. Rachel

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    commoner89, yes you can use that SSD. It is a Gen 3 Samsung micro sata or uSata drive (1.8 microsata drives without the casing are sometimes referred to as uSata).

    If you do the upgrade i would be interested in seeing your results, benchmarks.
     
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    Only recent PM810/PM830/470-series and 2.5"/mSATA Samsung SSDs can do multiqueued AHCI reads (4kb-Q=32). Meaning there's a lot faster microSATA SSDs options available than the older Samsungs.

    Can see a comprehensive list at http://forum.notebookreview.com/sol...-msata-1-8-sata-ssds-available.html#microsata . The MyDigital Bulletproof a budget option to consider.
     
  13. Rachel

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    I was meaning to look into this, but is the G3 Samsung drive a Samsung 470? I have a G2 PM8?? Samsung and the drive that was linked is a newer version and should be better. I didn't see it listed in the link in your post nando4.
     
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    It may mean there isn't a 470/PM810/PM830 in the 1.8" form factor. Certainly none I could find. As mSATA is the big thing anyone wanting to install the latest SSD in their 1.8" equipped system may want to look at a mSATA SSD + mSATA-to-microSATA adapter. I found two adapters and listed them here, quoted below:

     
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    Ok, it does appear that the Samsung G3 1.8 drives is same thing more or less as the Samsung 470. This is what i was wondering about.
    I haven't been following SSD news that closely for a while. Like the PM800/PB2JJ performance was really identical and it should be the case with the PM810/MZU drives.

    The 1.8 version should perform similary to the 2.5 version. Although, i found that my 2.5 Samsung SSD in my SZ out performed the same drive in my Sony TT by a small amount.
    Samsung 470-Series (Also Known As PM810 [256 GB]) : Roundup: The Best SSDs For Enthusiasts

    I had a look at some owners' thread in the Dell and Lenovo forum and no-one appears to have purchased the G3 variant yet.

    This though is some more benchmarks of the 2.5 PM810.
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/7065964-post539.html

    Edited to add:

    Samsung used to rule where battery life was concerned, i'm not so sure now based on that tomshardware link i posted. I know though that findings are quite conflicting and some people have written that the Samsung still consumes the lowest power at idle.
     
  17. commoner89

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    hi rachel

    thank you so much for your prior information about the SSD. for the data you;re looking for, is it this one:
    [​IMG]

    so this one is type PM810? what's the difference to PM830 as their price is like almost 3 times more expensive... i'm just looking for the more eficient for my TT because my original HDD is more likely to having lots of bad sectors and going slow because of it.

    could you kindly suggest me which SSD is better in term of performance vs price.

    thank you
     
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    The watermark covers the critical 4kb-64thrd read performance. Can assume it's pretty bad for them to do that.

    When putting together the 1.8" microSATA drive benchmarks I could not find a Toshiba or Samsung 1.8" SSD CrystalDiskmark/AS-SSD bench that showed the expected > 100MB/s 4kb-Q=32 results for a high performance unit. They all showed the typical 20MB/s indicating they can't do AHCI mode.

    So unless Rachel can find more info on the 810/830/470-series 1.8" Samsung unit, I'd suggest scout for a Intel X18M G2/G3 unit. They have excellent all round performance and reliability.
     
  19. Rachel

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    Do you have the direct link of where you found that benchmark?
    I purchased a +V100 Kingston for another laptop and i was pleased with it, it was a good all round performer. Power consumption was low and performance was pleasing to me.

     
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    thank you so much for your valuable information, i've done the search just now and i think i'll pick the intel X18-m G2 160gb. but i think it'll void the warranty if i stripped the case off so i can stack 2 pcs together...
     
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    i got it from taobao (chinese ebay) since i live near china...

    this is the samsung uSATA :
    È«ÐÂÈýÐÇ´÷¶û¹Ì̬ӲÅÌ micro SATA3.0 256GB SSD È«ÐÂδ²ð0ͨµç-ÌÔ±¦Íø

    and this is the samsung PM830:
    ÈýÐÇ mSATA 256GB samsung PM830ϵÁÐ 256G SSD ¹ÌÌåÓ²ÅÌ SATA3-ÌÔ±¦Íø


    due to nando's suggestion i think i'll end up buying this one :
    intel SSD 2.5´ç/1.8´ç/160G/G2 /x18-m/3Äê±£ÐлõD-ÌÔ±¦Íø
    they came with 3 years official intel china warranty while the samsung don't have warranty...
     
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    Can anyone tell me if a Crucial c300 model CTFDDAA256MAG-1G1 will work in the TT. I know there are versions which will but the one I'm looking at is marked 'SATA' rather than msata. It is encased. Is it that all I need to do is remove the casing. If someone could respond to this it would be very much appreciated as I have a chance to get a good deal on one at the moment but it may not last long. Thanks.
     
  25. Qwaarjet

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    it should be a 1.8" micro sata (not msata which is different)

    judging by that model number, according to newegg it is a 1.8" which all are micro-sata which will work in a TT from what I understand.
     
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    Thats brilliant, thanks. Time to spend more money I don't have, again :). Now I just have to figure out do I go for 1 or 2 in a RAID. Looks like a lot of hassle and appears to increase boot time with a raid. Could JBOD them though as I can't see there being much of a performance difference with them in a RAID 0 and it just increases data loss potential.
     
  27. zavgor73

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    Hi! Would you please share BIOS R2022M4 with built in SLICv2.1.? I assume it has got all hidden options unlocked.

     
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