VAIO TT from SU9300 =>SU9600

Hi all!!
At me is VAIO TT CPU SU9300. I want to solder there SU9600. It is easy? It is necessary to change the motherboard?
Thanks for answers.

 

The cpu is soldered so it will take a BGA job to remove it. You don't need to change the motherboard. All you need to buy is the cpu. It is hard to get a hold of the SU9600 as all on ebay seem to be ES samples. I have purchased broken motherboards and got the cpu removed to accquire an OEM cpu.
Vaiorefurbs on ebay has done my BGA upgrades. He charged me £110 to remove a cpu from a broken mobo, remove the cpu on my mobo and then upgrade it but i don't know if that would be the price today.

A forum member in a thread stated that they know a firm that does this upgrade for £30.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/7137731-post80.html

There is a forum member who also offers this upgrade that lives in the US.

I don't know where you live but if it's not the UK and you're not ok with shipping your laptop abroad then look for a computer shop where you live that offers this type of work.

 

You may consider getting a SL9400-1.86 or SL9600-2.13 if going the BGA route as a higher performance option. It can be locked to run at 0.925V using Throttlestop if need lower TDP. Another option would be seeing if someone can make you a dual-IDA bios. Then would get an extra +1 multiplier on a SU9xxx/SL9xxx gaining another 200/266Mhz.

 

Here's a youtube video of a Sony TT with a SL9600.
YouTube - VAIO TT TURBO MODE

If you go for it do update how you got on.

I did think about this but the SU9600 most likely will have the edge battery life wise.

 

I would not like to change BIOS and the scheme. At use of more high-speed processors there will be problems with heat. I wish to change the processor simply. It is possible? Without change of the scheme and BIOS?

 

AMZ1969, i'm not sure what you mean when you say scheme.
As i wrote it can be done in my post via the BGA method only as the processor is soldered.
The processor will need to be removed using special tools. It can be done but you need to send it to a tech to do it.

 

I have understood that you speak about replacement with special tools. I am ready to it.
When I spoke about change of the scheme I thought about additional components, crosspieces and jumpers. About mechanical change of the motherboard.

 

If you want to buy a motherboard with a OEM SU9600 opposed to an ES SU9600.
Look for these motherboards on Ebay. The upgrader can remove the cpu for you to use on your motherboard. See if you can get one broken.

These following laptops all used the same processor as the TT.

Dell E4200

HP 2530P

Dell Adamo

Dell Latitude Z600

Toshiba R600

Samsung x360?

Fujitsu P8020

Also, the Lenovo x301.

 

I from Russia. At me it is not so good with English language . Correctly I have understood?
Intel Core 2 Duo Mobile CPU 1.6GHZ / 3M / 800 SU9600 ES - eBay (item 160563578122 end time Apr-02-11 22:36:25 PDT)

It is not compatible with VAIO TT?
Thanks.

 

That's in an Engineering sample processor in your link. I personally would not go for one. You may be ok with it and especially if it's a late edition one. However, the oem versions could be more stable because it is well a final product and not one that's been sent out and put through rigiorious testing to try and determine stability.

 

Thanks for the answer!
I will search OEM.

 

Just saw these the other day on Ebay

Intel Mobile(Low power) Processor SU9600 1.6G Genuine | eBay UK

I sent the seller a message-

Is this a genuine OEM processor or an engineering sample?
...
They replied and stated that it's not an engineering sample.

 

Hi!
Thank you very much.
I have bought this processor. After a while I will receive it. Then I will write installation history.

 

Just to confirm, are you saying the Vaio TT (TT1LN - my version) could be upgraded from an SU9300 to a SL9600? Could i go even further and upgrade to a i3 or i5? whats the maximum my motherboard could accept CPU wise?

Cheers

Az

 

SL9600 is the best processor that you can use. The SL9600 is quite a respectable performing processor. You would need the BGA version.
http://ark.intel.com/products/37262/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-SL9600-(6M-Cache-2_13-GHz-1066-MHz-FSB)

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It's much easier just to buy the processor than to try to pull one from a motherboard. Not all have techs have the equipment to reball this gen cpu and more recent tech. They though should be able to able to solder it for you. This is what I have been told anyway by a tech.

 

I might go for it, the cpu is retailing for about £80 on ebay. Its just finding someone to remove and replace the cpu for me, i saw you mentioning it can be done for £30 is that in this country? Also would i need a special bios update for the SL9600 to work on my tt?

 

I don't know if there were issues with the BIOS wrth SL9600. Nobody on this forum has charted their experiences doing this mod. We just know though that it can be done.
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Vaiorefurbs on ebay has done my BGA upgrades for me in the past and prices was reasonable. I edited my post to state that you need a BGA type processor and i'm not seeing this type on ebay. The £30 figure came from another thread the TX upgrade thread and a forum member said that this is what they would be charged to do this. They though haven't informed us of the tech who did this job.

 

Couldn't you technically use any socket type P to replace it??? or does it have to be the SU family?

Wouldn't this work since it's a socket p?
Newegg.com - Intel Core 2 Quad Q9000 Penryn 2.0GHz Socket P 45W Quad-Core Mobile Processor Model BX80581Q9000

 

Since a 17W 1066Mhz FSB L9600 was successfully transplanted to a TT then yes, could use other socket P processors so long as they were BGA soldered on. The issue will however be whether the system can deliver sufficient power as well as the resultant heat. A P8xxx has max TDP=25W. A T9xx has a max TDP of 35W. You most certainly wouldn't put a 45W quad in the system as it consumes too much power and gives off too much heat.

 

There seems to be two different types of SL9600 processors. One that is BGA and one that is not that you may well find on Ebay. The person who did this mod seemed to get their hands on the BGA type.
The SL9600/SU9600 also supports the GS45 chipset which is what the Sony TT uses. The Quad 2 processor doesn't appear to be.
The Sony TT really is not built to cope with a 35w-45w processor.

 

FWIW, there is this little detail that may have been lost in the google translations. It was mentioned in the discussions that he was using an engineering sample SL9600 because it was practically impossible to find a production BGA SL9600.

 

Buy yourself a X200s, HP 2530P or Envy 13 systemboard or parts system and it will come with a BGA attached L9400 or L9600 cpu. Just need to remove it, reball it then solder to the TT.

 

I bought an Acer SUXXXX motherboard to get the processor removed for another laptop and was informed by the person who i had in mind to do this mod that they did not have the tools to do this job and buying the tools for them right now is not worth their while. I didn't ask much questions about it but may be getting hold of stencil for these processors is again really difficult. They had done previous BGA work for me.
It's best to check if you go down this route if the modder you have in line can do this job.
The modder i had in mind could though send it away to a specialist company but this would bump the costs to more than what i was prepared to pay. If i had a new processor they said it would have been ok.

I'm just wondering if you do buy a PGA one is there anyway to actually use this or not? Of course it cannot be used as is. I've never even seen a ES BGA SL96000. Also, there seems to be PGA SUXXXX on ebay which was a bit surprising to me.

 

Rachel, I can do the SUXXXX job for you. PM me if you really need.
SL9600 are being sold on eBay here.
However, it needs to be removed and reballed for any soldered model.

 

Hi everybody, I sell one intel SU9600 new. I bought for my vaio TT 11LN but finally I decided sell the Vaio because I change it for a Macbook Air (what a pity that the batery from the Vaio was better than mac..... )

So I decided to sell the CPU that I bought. This is the advertisment:
PROCESADOR INTEL SLGFN SU9600 Chipset CPU BGA Ball | eBay

Sorry my english!
Best regards.

 

I tried to replace SU9300 by SL9600 for my TT but my experiment failed. MB does not start. FAN starts, heat sink slowly increase temperature, I hear DVD is accessing the inserted CD-R disk (LiveCD), power button works (on/off) but screen is black (I tried both LCD and external VGA). Of cause, turning back to the "original" SU9300 MB - everything works fine. The sources for this operation were: (1) spare working (tested in "normal use" in my TT) MBX-191 with SU9300; (2) tested/working HP Envy MB with SL9600 (I didn't test it in deep but it booted to BIOS screen).

So, my question is - are there any real confirmations that replacement by SLxxxx works with MBX-191? Yes, I saw the video on youtube but there is no real screenshot that the system is running on SL9600 CPU there (so it could be "fake")... I think there is a chance that MB or CPU were damaged during the replacement but it is not high because the technician who did that for me is confirmed experienced in good BGA re-soldering... What could be the other reasons? FSB for SL9600 is 266 instead of 200 for SU9300... BIOS may not recognize SLxxxx CPU (I upgraded the BIOS in the "target" MBX-191 to the latest R3061M4)... Are there any chance to check that? Are there any Idea about the real possibility to do this replacement successfully? I'm very interested in this because I don't really see the equivalent replacement (similar size/weight/LCD quality/BD) for my TT at the moment but SU9300 is the only issue with it.