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    VAIO Z Win7 WEI (Windows Experience Index)

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by Metsn, Nov 23, 2009.

  1. Metsn

    Metsn Maiku Hama Yokohama

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    Hello,

    not that I believe in it that much, just by curiosity, if anyone is willing to share their WEI result in Win7 with Vaio Z in Speed mode. Would be curious, if it'll show some differences with different CPUs, HDDs, ... You can show the additional specifics by clicking on " View and print detailed performance and system information". (Thanks NHT about the info, didn't know about that :)) As the chart doesn't show, what kind of HDD you got, pls write it separately (if it's not written already in your signature).
    Cheers,
    and here is mine:
    [​IMG]
     
  2. NHT

    NHT Notebook Evangelist

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    You can have the specifics in the test like this:
    [​IMG]
     
  3. dLo GSR

    dLo GSR Notebook Enthusiast

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    im slow :(

    [​IMG]
     
  4. b_ambee

    b_ambee Notebook Geek

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    Vaio Z46SD - CPU : P9700 2.8GHz + Ram 6GB + GSkill Falcon SSD 128GB FW1819

    [​IMG]
     
  5. CaptainHardcore

    CaptainHardcore Notebook Enthusiast

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    [​IMG]

    HDD is standard Sony Z4 SSDs (Samsung) - a pair of 128Gb SSDs in RAID configuration 200Gb RAID0, 38Gb RAID1.
    X drive is 256Mb RAM disk for apps to use for writing cache/temp files.
     
  6. Metsn

    Metsn Maiku Hama Yokohama

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    It's nice to see results from someone with the latest strongest Z. Would be curious, how much difference the 8GB do in real use. Probably depends on each user use though. It interesting, that my single Intel SSD drive scores in WEI better than the 2 Samsung drives in Raid 0. I though they're supposed to be faster.

    btw, when you were doing this test, you had your Z hooked up to some external monitor?
     
  7. NHT

    NHT Notebook Evangelist

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    Intel is better in 4K Read and Write.
     
  8. dostonotebook

    dostonotebook Newbie

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    [​IMG]

    Drives are 2 x 256 Samsumg SSD's in Raid 0
     
  9. Metsn

    Metsn Maiku Hama Yokohama

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    Nice, I knew that even thought the 4K R/W of Intel is great, two fast Samsung drives in Raid 0 should score better. Unfortunately for now the raid means no TRIM support.
     
  10. ShadowFlare

    ShadowFlare Notebook Geek

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    [​IMG]

    Just about the same as NHT's, but NHT's 6GB RAM bumped his point up a notch, 0.1. HDD is single Samsung 256GB.
     
  11. cosmok

    cosmok Notebook Consultant

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    PB22-J? I get 7.4 with mine on the HDD test
     
  12. ShadowFlare

    ShadowFlare Notebook Geek

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    Yeah, a single Samsung PB22-J 256GB. Really 7.4? Hm... wonder why mine is so low then :/ I even restarted the laptop after switching to nVidia graphics.
     
  13. cosmok

    cosmok Notebook Consultant

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    The firmware on my drive is VBM19D1Q and I'm using these rapid storage drivers. Everything else is identical
     
  14. ShadowFlare

    ShadowFlare Notebook Geek

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    Seems my firmware is VBM1801Q... and I've been googling on upgrading to VBM19D1Q and there's no such possibility, is that true? According to other forums, the newer PB22 drives come with this newer firmware. Sucks I can't upgrade my firmware :/

    Gonna have a go on the drivers, see if that makes a difference.

    Update: Nope, no change after using the rapid drivers. I guess your newer Samsung SSD with newer firmware perform much better.
     
  15. cosmok

    cosmok Notebook Consultant

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    Samsung doesn't plan to release the firmware update utility until they get the TRIM functions sorted out, could be a while.
     
  16. arth1

    arth1 a҉r҉t҉h

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    When striping, multiply the file system default block size by number of drives, and round up to the nearest usable size.

    The default block size for NTFS is 4 kB. However, NTFS can handle 8 kB block sizes just fine, and that gives a rather nice speed boost when using a 2-drive stripe.

    This has to be done when you create the file system, before installing. Of course, with a factory install or upgrade, that's not an option for the system/boot partition, but with a fresh install, you can set it to 8 kB.
     
  17. lamtutu

    lamtutu Notebook Consultant

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    Here My Vaio z591U/B
    [​IMG]
     
  18. CaptainHardcore

    CaptainHardcore Notebook Enthusiast

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    I tested the suggested formula:

    NTFS cluster size = arbitrary default size X number of drives in stripe array​
    ...​
    8Kb = 4Kb X 2​

    It resulted in the WEI score dropping from 7.3 to 7.2 which is contrary to the suggested "rather nice speed boost".

    Paragon Partition Manager 10 (maybe others) can change the cluster size after install.
     
  19. arth1

    arth1 a҉r҉t҉h

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    WEI isn't a real benchmark, you know -- it only tests small reads.
    And the default size isn't arbitrary - it's chosen to give good performance for a single drive with common file sizes and predominantly random reads/writes.

    Never do this. The extant blocks will still be 4k, you just force the drive to use 8 kB clusters for new files. The end result is a drive that's slower, due to the 8 kB clusters not always being aligned to 8 kB boundaries, and you end up doing more write operations on each drive.
    The whole point of doubling the size is that with two DMA capable drives, you can read 2*4k just as fast as 1*4k, provided that every 2*4k read is aligned on a stripe boundary. If there are leftover 4 kB blocks, you defeat the purpose, and only reap the benefit of less future fragmentation, at the expense of more reads/writes.

    If you want the benefit of 8 kB clusters, you absolutely need to remake the file system (which Windows erroneously calls "format"), and restore from a file (not clone) backup. You'll see an increase in space used, as the minimum space a file or directory takes jumps from 4 kB to 8 kB, but less fragmentation. And if you test with a real disk benchmark program, you'll see a good increase in speed; 10-20% is a normal boost.
     
  20. CaptainHardcore

    CaptainHardcore Notebook Enthusiast

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    Can I benchmark against a blank partition instead of my boot partition? It would save much hastle that way.
     
  21. SPEEDwithJJ

    SPEEDwithJJ NBR Super Idiot

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    For the fun of it, I just ran the WEI on my VAIO Z690 & the following is my score:

    [​IMG]
     
  22. Virtua

    Virtua Notebook Evangelist

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    More details about my computer

    4.3 overall

    Component Details Subscore Base score
    Processor Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T9800 @ 2.93GHz 6.5
    Memory (RAM) 4.00 GB 5.9
    Graphics NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS 4.3
    Gaming graphics 2013 MB Total available graphics memory 5.5
    Primary hard disk 56GB Free (229GB Total) 5.9
    Windows 7 Ultimate

    System
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    Manufacturer Sony Corporation
    Model VGN-Z91JS
    Total amount of system memory 4.00 GB RAM
    System type 64-bit operating system
    Number of processor cores 2

    Storage
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    Total size of hard disk(s) 274 GB
    Disk partition (C :) 56 GB Free (229 GB Total)
    Disk partition (E :) 11 GB Free (45 GB Total)

    Graphics
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    Display adapter type NVIDIA GeForce 9300M GS
    Total available graphics memory 2013 MB
    Dedicated graphics memory 256 MB
    Dedicated system memory 0 MB
    Shared system memory 1757 MB
    Display adapter driver version 8.15.11.8684
    Primary monitor resolution 1600x900
    DirectX version DirectX 10

    Network
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    Network Adapter Intel(R) 82567LM Gigabit Network Connection
    Network Adapter Intel(R) WiFi Link 5100 AGN
    Network Adapter Bluetooth Device (Personal Area Network)

    This is the Sony SSD.....ie, not opened..tampered or changed ;)
    I also have a 48gb Gmonster SSD in the express port
     
  23. SPEEDwithJJ

    SPEEDwithJJ NBR Super Idiot

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    That is interesting. The WEI score for your SSD is low IMHO. :( My 500GB Hitachi Travelstar 7,200rpm HDD got the same score of 5.9. :eek: