VGN-FZ31E , just a litle help

I'm trying to find ways to edit these laptops FZ /NR bioses so i can mess with the models that have the 8400gt ddr3 with nibitor and finally i've done it. But i need a litle help on finishing this.

I need someone with this exact same laptop VGN-FZ31E to download and install this

ftp://ftp.work.acer-euro.com/utilities/winphlash/winphlash-utility.zip

1º - run it, """SELECT BACKUP ONLY"""", choose where to save the bios.bak file
2º - the file i've attached, RENAME IT TO RAR, extract it AND select it has the "new bios" (don't worry it will not break your laptop) and post it here on the forum , the bios.bak file in RAR format but change the extension to pdf so you can upload it here.

I would really appreciate it. The problem is that the editor only works ONCE with the bios.bak file so i always need the original "backup" to play with and i didn't know that... well we are learning every day

Thank you for the person who helps me out on this !!

Here's my work in progress

 

Bump!!! Anyone ?? This only takes , what 5 min ??

Please ??

thank you

 

Yeah, well good luck getting someone to apply an unknown Bios to their machine. No offense, but who is going to be crazy enough to trust that???

You might be able to find someone who will do part 1, but even that is scary as hell. Think about it for a second, a stranger walks up to you on the street and says, hey I have this nifty piece of code here I want you to run on your machine. What would you think or do???

Gary

 

EDIT- Sorry but i do have to say this... No offense but do you know english ??? or is my english that bad ??

Man, if you search the forum by my name you would have not said that and second i only """NEED THE FIRST PART !""" the backup part... the screen you see is what i've achieved but to continue i need another ORIGINAL backup because at the time i didn't know that this would happen.

So, for the new readers that has this laptop I JUST NEED the bios backup made that way because winphlash for backuping need some other bios JUST to backup.. IT WILL NOT FLASH THE LAPTOP

Like i SAID .

""1º - run it, ""*****"SELECT BACKUP ONLY""*****"", choose where to save the bios.bak file""

 

Don't get pissy with me just because I tried to tell you WHY folks are not too likely to respond to such a request. I am not saying you don't know what you are doing. (Although I do question your understanding of human nature.)

This is not like you are asking someone to try out some new graphics program or some simple utility that worst case the might have to reinstall the OS if it screws up. No, you are asking folks to run some utility that involves their BIOS. Yes, yes, I know you only want the freakin' backup. But you are asking for a big leap of faith to even get that. Folks are very reticent to mess with a BIOS in any manner what so ever. Screw it up and your machine is a brick. So don't be so surprised that no one wants to risk that the app is bullet proof.

Oh and yes your English is that bad. Nowhere did you say you ONLY need part one done. There is an implication that you only need the backup. However, you clearly asked for both to be done. What part of my English didn't YOU undertand when I said:"You might be able to find someone who will do part 1, but even that is scary as hell."???

Finally, there are very clear rules here that you may not bump your own thread until 24 hours have passed.

Don't bother replying, we are done.

Gary

 

man , you just became my idole !!! You really are the man here, so, instead of scaring the sh*t out of ppl be usefull and just help me out here, it's just a frickin backup, c'mon !

And I bet that on this SONY forum many ppl are tired to be stuck to the 169.04 drivers to be able to overclock. that's the point on this thread.

I BET that many ppl would like to be able to do this ... on this case a vgn-nr21s/s that i did maintain the original bios.bak !!

 

Two points and then I really am done with this.

First, in case you haven't noticed there are known issues with the Nvidia Chip in the FZ series and many other machines. The issue is with heating and cooling cycles causing the chip substrate to fail. So until the extent of this problem is known, and how it applies to the FZ machines in particular, it is a VERY VERY bad idea to try overclocking these machines. Latter once the extent of the problem is known, it might be fun to try. But right now, it may be very harmful.

Second, you may trust the application that it only creates a backup. I know nothing about it. And the mere fact that it is capable of overwriting the BIOS, would prevent me from ever suggesting it to anyone who is not willing to risk bricking their machine.

Sorry. You might be willing to risk your machine. And you might also be willing to suggest others to do so. I won't.

Now, I am done. I will no longer reply here.

Gary

 

i can do this on my acer 6920g gemstone blue? i have the same problem, i need the 169.04 to overclock...


if yes, i can use the same rar file R0131J9.wph?

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Has anyone made any progress on this?

It still doesn't work for me!

 

Get a new laptop instead of bricking the existing one.

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Check out my thread on this:

laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22174&pid=99736&st=0&#entry99736

Just replace those x's with t's!

 

We know who is the troll here.

 

What is "not cool" is someone coming here asking for information that is very likely to brick the machine, and then taking an attitude when warned about it.

You do realize, don't you, that all of the FZ series machines with Nvidia chips are subject toe the "bad bumps" problem. And further any attempt to overclock these machines will do nothing but exacerbate this issue, since the problem rleates to not only the frequency but depths of the heating and cooling cycles. (If you are not aware of all this, you should be. Chcek elsewhere in thos forum for a LONG thread about the problems surrounding certain NVIDIA chips. Here is a good start, it provides a link to the technical details of the issue. Read it and then come back and tell us how interested you are in overclocking your GPU.
Link to "Bad Bumps" tech info"

Coolguy has been quite helpful in these forums, so far all we have heard from you is your attitude.

Gary

 

yeah yeah we all know about that heat issues, that's why i quited on trying to find ways to use overclock from bios on this forum. I found them on my own. Please, don't take me wrong, but that decision is for the user to make. "All of you" have a good and respectable user reputation but sometimes it's too much. My asus g1s has almost 2 years with oc from the bios and it's still working... strange. That heat issue has alarmed users too much IMO, ok ?? Don't flame ppl for their decisions. I really thank "you all" for the warnings, it's "your" job but when you know how to do something that you know or can help why not just send a pm if do not want that information for noobs to have it ?? a little common sence..

"here's what you want but i warned you" <- Just a thought.

God i can't remember all of the ppl i changed the bios so they could enjoy better FPS from the oc and new drivers and none of them had a single problem. A litle oc, NOT an insane one is not going to hurt.


GUYS to not flame me, it's only MY opinion. All sony laptops with nvidia gpus are really hard to mod without a bios file and to dump it is harder without some "equal" file. NO RichS i didn't found another VGN-FZ31E laptop to get a original bios dump. Your only hope is that sony give out a bios update. If you have VGN-FZ31E just follow my first post carefully to dump your bios. (use xp for that). After that it's easy to mod it but sorry, i AM not going to post here HOW and i WILL not help from PM because i WILL respect the others with good and respectable reputation.

Sorry.

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Thank you for your comments Gary.

Here's the problem. The purpose of this thread is to discuss overclocking via system BIOS (particularly for the FZ). We have already read your warning on the first page of comments. So either we are stupid or we have worked out the heating with monitors, cooling pads.... and still want the freedom to do what we want with our laptops. I just bought my this FZ off of eBay and I could go buy another if it breaks. Neverthless, I love the machine and would like to see how much I can push it (like I can on all of my other machines (including VAIOs).

And when "Not Cool Guy" chimes (after you have politely worded your warnings) with his worthless one-liner implying, "Yeah you guys are stupid!" - It's just a waste of everyone's time and the definition of trolling.

So just to be clear Gary, I appreciate your measured and considerate advice! I just think you've taken the wrong side in regard to NCG.

ADOLFO! Are you able to tell me how you got the BIOS for your machine? It doesn't appear that Sony has created one yet.

RS

 

"""""""""" FIST POST """""""""

ftp://ftp.work.acer-euro.com/utilities/winphlash/winphlash-utility.zip

1º - run it, """SELECT BACKUP ONLY"""", choose where to save the bios.bak file
2º - the file i've attached (THE PDF on the first post) , RENAME IT TO RAR, extract it AND select it has the "new bios"

 

This is what you guys are doing here and you seem to understand it pretty well. It's a mere waste of time doing this OC and BIOS cracking, etc. You should have discussed this in the hardware section > Graphic cards.

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Ah thank you, so I went down that road- and even get several versions of winphlash- nevertheless- the new BIOS does not open in Phoenix BIOS editor- it only says that the file is the wrong size.

Thank you for all of your efforts - you are a goodsamaritan!

I've narrowed down the difference between 169.04 and all other Nvidia drivers to the file

nvlddmkm.sys

If we could figure out how to patch this file we could OC without BIOS flashing.

See my thread here

laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=22174

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Perhaps you are correct- Sorry for the harsh tone in the previous post. Now I'll call you Cool Guy!

 

Well if you are going to try it on an FZ model you ARE being stupid. This model is known to have the very Nvidia chip that is failing due to what has been termed "bad bumps". These are the tin/lead compound bumps used as contact points for the chip. The differential in expansion of these bumps relative to the dielectric compound is causing minute cracks and subsequent failure. Pushing these chips to higher temps even with all the monitoring cooling pads etc is asking for trouble. It can not be safely done. Period.

Here is a link to a series of articles explaining the issue in detail. http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/378/1004378/why-nvidia-chips-defective

As this has been discussed at length in numerous Nvidia threads on these forums, it is no surprise that Coolguy, rightly, made the comment he did.

I gave you the benefit of the doubt assuming you didn't bother to read the other threads. Now that I am certain you have the same information at your disposal. I take the same stance Coolguy did. Pursuing this is stupid.

Gary

 

OVERCLOCKING MAY DESTROY YOUR GPU AND THE EFFORT TO OVERCLOCK MAY DESTROY YOUR COMPUTER. I AM NOT TRYING TO HELP ANYONE TO MODIFY THEIR SYSTEMS OR SOFTWARE IN ANY WAY- I AM ONLY SEEKING INFORMATION FOR MY OWN USE.

Dear Gary,

I am going to agree with you. Anyone who does this is taking on a great risk and is extremely likely to damage their computer.

So to all those out there interested in Flashing your BIOS: DON'T! It is dangerous and if you are still interested in OC ing the NVIDIA 169.04 drivers will allow you to.

Sorry for the argument with everyone.

 

Thanks,

Now none of this is to say that what you were pursuing was a bad idea across the board, just for machines with the specific Nvidia chips under question. For other Nvidia chips and ATI ones this can be a useful exercise in done carefully and fully monitored.

Gary