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    VPCSA/SB Convenient eGPU mod

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by euchrid_eucrow, Nov 30, 2012.

  1. euchrid_eucrow

    euchrid_eucrow Notebook Consultant

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    The short of it:

    Long post, I’ve been working on this mod on and off for the better part of the last 6mos. The short of it is, where I once had a DVD drive that I barely used, I now have 3 low power USB ports and a convenient eGPU port. I’ve designed a caddy of my own in order to manage the new components.

    The long of it:

    This began as a simple 2nd HDD/DVD caddy swap. The more I thought about it however the more the fact that the HDD was physically smaller than the DVD drive, which ultimately meant unused space started to bother me. Incidentally I was also working on getting an eGPU set up but didn’t like the idea of having to take off the 2nd battery and bottom plate off each time I wanted to use the eGPU. The eGPU hardware connects via the mini PCIe slot where the Wi-Fi card is. So I decided to try to permanently embed the eGPU connection alongside a 2nd HDD where the DVD drive used to be. This threw a new wrinkle into the equation, since a permanent eGPU connection would mean disconnecting my wlan permanently. My solution was to go with a USB dongle for my wireless connection.

    New problem, where to find the USB connection….and where to hide the dongle. The last thing I wanted was to have it sticking out the side of the computer all the time. So the dongle also had to go into the caddy space. As to the USB connection, well there’s a wwan slot I never use right next to the caddy. While most wwan cards are physically a mini PCIe format and connection, they really work via USB. I found a card which breaks out the USB connection to flying leads (mentioned in the parts list below) and planned on using that to get my USB connection for the Wi-Fi dongle. New problem, most wwan mPCIe ports carry USB signal but not power. The port on the SB works like this. So where do I get 5v from? I could run the port power in parallel from one of the USB ports on the right side of the computer, but those make for some long leads and are difficult to run back to the caddy area. The only easily available source of power on the left hand side is the SATA connection itself. And that was my "aha" moment.

    I tend to use my laptop as a laptop when on the road but when at home it’s really working as a desktop. I’ve got a few USB peripherals and a screen I connect it to, plus the aforementioned eGPU. Ultimately I decided that I wanted more USB ports and a convenient eGPU port on the left side of the machine more than I wanted a 2nd hard drive. So I replaced the hard drive in the mod with a USB hub, with enough power to run the wlan dongle, an Asus Xonar USB soundcard, thumbdrives, peripheral dongles (Logitech universal, and Microsoft keyboard, etc.) It won’t power a HDD in a caddy however. I was also having some trouble fitting the hard drive in the original mod, but that’s because I was afraid of taking a dremel to the bottom case of the laptop (I’ve since worked through my fear, though I like the mod as is.)

    Things that still need doing:

    I still need to shave off a 1mm from everything, and I ended up warping the top case with one of my earlier attempts. I’ve revised the design of my caddy so that I can fasten the 3 screws along the face of the DVD drive which I had to forego with the old design. I also have to model this and get it 3d printed so it’s one integral unit. Also, it looks like the new version of the eGPU hardware (PE4L-PM060A) might have the mPCIe card and the adapter directly soldered to the mini hdmi cord, so I’ll have to revise the mod slightly. Even without revising the design, I have to go in there and clean up some cables now that I’ve had it in for a few weeks and know that it works.

    Things to watch out for:

    I somehow shorted the speakers on this computer, no idea how I did it but I’ve made my peace with it. Also I killed a couple of usb wifi dongles due to bad solder joints and shorts.

    (Will update with parts list soon… ;)

    Pic of the three usb ports with the eGpu port. Its the hole at the end, closest to the screen.

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    Laptop w/o the top case: Note that in this picture the wifi antenna leads aren't connected to anything. Understandably, there was a lot of inteferrence once the computer was closed up though I've since found a card which works with them and am getting a clean wifi signal.

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  2. darxide_sorcerer

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    this is great. thanks for sharing :) +1 rep.
     
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    what eGPU are you using? and also, what do you mean by " the eGPU hardware has gotten an upgrade and no longer connects via a detachable mini HDMI cable"? is the cable permanently attached to the laptop now?
     
  4. euchrid_eucrow

    euchrid_eucrow Notebook Consultant

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    I have a PE4H 2.4 which is working over a x1 link (using the Setup 1.x boot disc)

    If i've followed the eGPU thread correctly (and what a beast of a thread that is) I can get a x2 link using the PE4L 2.1. If you look at PE4L-PM060A on the webpage

    PE4L V2.1 ( PCIe Adapter )

    it looks like they hard soldered the mPCIe end to the adapter. Though I could be wrong. I'd like to buy a PE4L to see but won't get around to it till next month.

    *edited the main post so as to explain myself a little better. Hopefully i'm wrong about the mini HDMI cable though.
     
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    yes, it is soldered. i see what you're saying. thanks for the explanation.
     
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    euchrid_eucrow Notebook Consultant

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    Also, thanks for the kudos and rep. :)
     
  7. aloyxs01

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    Hi,

    And thanks for sharing your project it looks amazing, I was wondering how you end it, I know is been a while but, I have the same laptop and I´m thinking on improving it to.

    Cheers