Vaio Duo 11

VAIO Duo 11: Sony readying a slim Windows 8 hybrid to take on Surface | The Verge

Exclusive: Meet The Future Sony VAIO Duo 11 | Pocketnow

prototype from CES
Sony displays VAIO tablet prototypes; future Windows 8 hardware? | The Verge

This looks not bad, I like the pen, hope there is a digitizer in the screen akin to the galaxy note. Seems to have VGA out, running regular windows 8, not RT, possibly a SD/magic gate slot near the VGA out.

 

Wow, the Vaio Duo 11 is awesome. I like this one better than the MSI slider.

 

I'm definitely wanting one of these, it looks very thin so perhaps Intel Atom? That would keep costs low and battery life fairly good.

Hopefully this will be announced at IFA.

 

I really hope it's not atom. If Samsung S9 can pull off such thin profile, I am sure sony can put i7 or whatever CPU they want with good battery life.

 

probably ULV i5 or i7 with ssd.

 

Sony - Touch, write and go with slim new VAIO Duo 11 : : News : Sony Europe Press Centre

full HD screen

Surf Slider™ design transforms full-function Ultrabook™ PC into tablet operating mode for on-the-go computing
Slim and light: weighs approximately 1.3kg and 17.85mm thin
29.4cm (11.6” wide view Full HD touchscreen
Comfortable and precise hand-writing experience with a digitizer stylus pen
Made in Japan with quality craftsmanship that only Sony can deliver

 

It almost looks like the old X505 - Sony may have drawn me back in. 16GB of memory and bigger SSD options would have made it perfect. I wonder if Japan will get slightly better specs.

 

i'm tempted to get my butt to berlin to check out the device in person .

 

Heh. I've been looking for a presentation computer to compliment my Panasonic J10. This may be it. And with 8GB, it may be able to run some of my VMs so it'd serve as a backup, too.

 

Here's the actual announcement through Engadget at IFA today:

Sony unveils VAIO Duo 11 slide-out tablet, Tap 20 portable touchscreen all-in-one -- Engadget

and yeah, it's a PC (w/ intel chips) so no Windows RT on this thing.

No mention of a stylus... I hope they just forgot, but there is apparently a camera on the back/bottom. And a 1080p 11.6" screen! - probably the same as in the 11.6" Asus Ultrabook as it too has a 1080p screen.

edit:

Well, they didnt mention stylus, but the second picture they have is of a stylus:

Sony VAIO Duo 11 - Engadget Galleries

yay , hope it's got a wacom digitizer and not just some fancy capacitive stuff, I guess we'll just have to wait on price.

And... all this stuff was discussed on the 2nd page of this thread... I feel dumb lol... it's early + before class

 

The Sheet says that the dimensions are 320mm * 17,8 * 19,9!
My Z2 is 330mm wide... oO

This 11 inch thing will have a B E Z E L !!!

 

Remember, tablets NEED bezels... else, how will you hold it? If it didnt have a bezel, every hand hold would have a finger somewhere on the screen and that'd annoy you more

 

The stylus is a digitizer:

Sony unveils VAIO Duo 11 slide-out tablet, Tap 20 portable touchscreen all-in-one -- Engadget

The styling and specs are absolutely Sony at its A-game. This is the sort of innovative, different, stylish product that Sony should be known for, instead of unremarkable "me too" laptops like the Vaio C and Vaio E.

 

1.3 kg for 11" is a little on the heavy side, hopefully that means solid magnesium or aluminum metal shells?

 

It weighs exactly the same as a MacBook Air 13. Slightly smaller screen, but more complex hinge design (slider instead of book-hinge). So the weight seems exactly where I would expect it for a device like this.

 

1.3kg (or 2.86lbs for us Americans) is pretty fair. The old T was just about 3lbs give or take. And considering this has an active digitizer and it's going to have to have at least some decent battery life, it makes sense. I know there's a sheet battery but it looks like there's no other option; what is there is internal. The Duo packs a pretty good punch. I'm glad they brought back the X505 keyboard (essentially).

 

Sorry guys!

This one looks really ugly. Where is the style of an UX?

This thing is like an equal size of my Z2 and weight more than my Z2!
And whats the advantage of a slider? They can make this one in an equal style than the Transformer Primes from Asus... with an keyboard dock... Or why not an UX with a little bigger (7 inch) screen....

I think this one will be really Sony made overpriced!

 

This doesn't look particularly good. And when you have used Surface by MS, then everything else just seems irrelevant.

 

I wouldn't say it's irrelevant, but it's not a real stand-out for sure. I am assuming the VAIO P/X505 keyboard would be better than the one Surface has and Duo seems to have better inner than Surface, but at close at 3 lb it's definitely targeting people that for the most part will still use it in laptop mode.

 

The UX? The UX IMO was one of the worst Sony machines ever made. Unique? Yes, but nowhere near as good as the U70P which came before it. The UX was crap design, and the chicklet keyboard unusable.

According to this link ( Sony VAIO Duo 11 Hands-On: 1080p Screen Meets Slide-Out Keyboard), it will be around $1400 US which honestly is much lower than I thought given how much premium ultraportables in the past have cost from Sony (T, U, etc.). So if it really winds up in that price range, I'll be pleasantly surprised.

And keep in mind, the Surface Pro will probably be in the $1000ish (give or take) price range as well. This machine is for the business crowd for the most part, and I'm GLAD they made it this way. The VGA port is absolutely still necessary in the business world and this really is an ultraportable, not an ultrabook.

If you want the Keyboard dock, get a Samsung (one of the two announced yesterday), the Toshiba, or the Fujitsu. I think HP announced one, too.

 

What if you frequently rely on touchscreen input, but need the keyboard on the road enough so that you can't afford to just leave it at home? With a Transformer-style setup, you end up carrying the keyboard dock separately whenever you're doing stylus or finger input. And that gets cumbersome.

Transformer setups are good for consumers who use the devices at home and can get the keyboard from the next room whenever they need it. They're also good for people who know in advance which days they'll need the keyboard and which they won't. They're good for people who very rarely want the dock, because then the tablet is lighter. But for business travelers or students who are frequently using stylus input but also frequently using keyboard input, a slider is nice because then you don't have to keep track of a separate keyboard dock whenever it's time to use the stylus.

Different strokes for different folks.

 

Here in Germany I never saw any Student oder PhD using a Tablet with stylus.... I were always the only one with touchscreen devices..

I told just my two cents. I really liked my UX1XN and was very happy with this one. And I think a Tablet/Ultrabook Hybride with an 11 inch Touchscreen should not be as big as a 13 inch device...
But nowadys I am no more a fan of touchscreen. For the Phone it is good, but for per personally it is just a nice gimmick and not useful for SPSS, R, Maxdata or Word, Exel, PPT...

 

This is a great device for me but that price is definitely concerning. Suggests entry level pricing of $1700-$1800 AU in Australia which is enough for both a high end tablet and a laptop with atleast as much power as this device.

 

well pricing is out, i3-3217U is 1199 euro
http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=226901

i5-3317U is 1399 euro
http://presscentre.sony.eu/ImageLibrary/DownloadMedia.ashx?MediaDetailsID=226902

 

Hope they can drop the i5 version to the $1199 price point when it comes to US...

 

Good luck with that...if they did I'd be importing one tbh as that would be a great price point.

The i5 model has Windows 8 Professional above the i3 model as well. Pricing is still concerning as I don't know what that will translate to here, Germany has models that are considerably cheaper (T Series 11") as well as models tyhat are about the same (T Series 13", S Series 13")

 

A hands-on video here:

Sony VAIO Duo 11 slider PC hands-on (video) -- Engadget

Hinge system seems refined, and it's neat that you can open and close it with one hand. Excellent performance from the stylus too, for those who like that sort of thing. But I don't see any sort of storage silo for the stylus...are you just supposed to carry it in your pocket and not lose it?

 

The stylus has a place in the bigger sheet battery which no one has really seen.

There are quite a few better videos on YouTube, some of which show off the optical track nub thing.

I talked to someone at a Sony store today. They said that the US hasn't been announced yet, but he basically said that it should appear here nearly the same time as the other countries. Take that with a grain of salt, of course. So far we've seen the i3 and i5 in Europe. I'm thinking the i7 may wind up being Japan only - we'll see.

 

i7 should be everywhere, I manged to play with one of these at an event in Sydney, great screen and looks like a really nice device. Was interesting watching people try to use Excel by touching the screen. Pixels are too dense.

 

A quick related question, what is Microsoft's economic rationale for allowing these electronic companies, such as Sony, Samsung etc, given that Microsoft has developed a Windows 8 tablet of their own?. One's first thought would be that Windows would be able to dominate the hybrid tablet market (other than Apple), and overprice the hell out of the tablets... Maybe the royalties from these electronic companies outweigh their projected sales if they had exclusivity? If someone could answer this quick question that'd be great

EDIT: Now that I think about it they could've done this since their first OS. My possible answer to my question is by diversifying their OS into various products which can be developed at low cost (thereby increase volume of sale) they increase their overall brand recognition.

 

gah now i regret my vaio svz purchase :s

 

(1) Microsoft can't offer the diversity in hardware that the mainstream market demands. Look at the limited diversity of Apple software. Look at the vast diversity in hardware from PC OEMs. No contest.

(2) If Microsoft shut out third-party OEMs, it would face massive anti-trust problems and might be broken up by the federal government.

(3) The purpose of the Surface tablets is not to shut out third-party OEMs or to dominate the tablet market, but to kickstart the Windows RT/Windows 8 market, and to get products out there while the OEMs get some quality products of their own to market. Given how solid the x86 options are from what we've seen so far (from the Envy X2 to the Vaio Duo 11 to the Thinkpad Tablet 2), the x86 Surface Pro may never see production. It's just not needed. But given how half-hearted Windows RT tablets from the OEMs have been so far (we've just seen a couple designs, none of which are very exciting), the Surface RT will be needed to jump-start the Windows RT tablet market.

 

As an FYI, if you want to play with the configurator for the Japanese version of the Duo 11, it's here: ソニーストア VAIO Duo 11の法人向けカスタマイズモデル価格シミュレーション | パーソナルコンピューター [法人向け] “VAIO BUSINESS”