The Notebook Review forums were hosted by TechTarget, who shut down them down on January 31, 2022. This static read-only archive was pulled by NBR forum users between January 20 and January 31, 2022, in an effort to make sure that the valuable technical information that had been posted on the forums is preserved. For current discussions, many NBR forum users moved over to NotebookTalk.net after the shutdown.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.

    What about VAIO F?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by Penicillin, Aug 31, 2010.

  1. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Hi,
    I'd like to buy Sony VAIO F12 (820QM processor 1.73GHz), it has everything I'm looking for, Core i7 processor 8M L3 Cache, Full HD Display, cute design with backlit keyboard.

    What do you say? is it a good choice?
    What is Pros and Cons?

    So appreciated.
     
  2. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    164
    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    31
  3. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Thanks
    All issues are acceptable and fixable except Screen viewing angle, the YouTube video can't picture the exact issue since it's taken by a camera.
    I have Sony FW (1080p), and the screen is perfect, is VAIO F screen that bad?
    I don't want to pay $1400 for a bad screen.
     
  4. JP$

    JP$ Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    164
    Messages:
    679
    Likes Received:
    5
    Trophy Points:
    31
    My brother in law has an F11 with 1080p screen. In the short time I played around with it, I thought it looked great and was not at all disappointed. However, I come from laptops with very poor screens, and am not as picky as others I think when it comes to viewing angles, etc. I know for certain that the F11/F12 screen has better viewing angles than my Dell Inspiron.
     
  5. baroninkjet

    baroninkjet Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    101
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I have 1080p F; screen is the one thing that would stop me from buying it again. Viewing angles are the worst of it. There is no viewing angle where you can see a color the same across the entire screen.
     
  6. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Did you try VAIO FW? does it have a better screen than F?
     
  7. Jhnyl

    Jhnyl Notebook Enthusiast

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    49
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    does the vaio f screen come with a wled screen or is it still a lcd? I just saw my friend play some games on his 1080p vaio f laptop (don't know if its FW - it has i7 and 330m) and the viewing angles were pretty bad. I had to literally be right behind him to see it properly.
     
  8. Hayte

    Hayte Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    450
    Messages:
    467
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    The general consensus in the last couple of F series threads seems to be that the FW X-Brite screens were more or less the pinnacle of Sony notebook screens and even the highly regarded EU Premium 1080p screen on the F Series and the Premium 1080p screen on the Z series don't measure up.

    This appears to be a general downward trend. Industry wide 16:10 is disappearing outside of business notebooks and as more companies offer budget conscious notebooks, the screen is unfortunately one of the first casualties. Region also has some influence as the premium display on the US F series is not the same screen as the EU premium display. For a start, its glossy and I haven't seen many people in the F series threads that were really happy with it. The EU premium screen is well liked though and notebookcheck rated it very highly.
     
  9. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    So what do you say? is it that annoying that stops buying it?
     
  10. avmaxfan

    avmaxfan Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    70
    Messages:
    671
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    From whatever I have read about the US F11/12 full hd screens, if you are coming from a FW with the Xbrite full hd panel, then you will most likely be dissapointed.

    But the EU/Asia screens are another story altogether. That screen is fantastic and arguably one of the(if not THE) best screen u cn get in the market today.
     
  11. Virtua

    Virtua Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    34
    Messages:
    304
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    With the US F12 model - disable the Sony auto, use Nvidia settings and recalibrate lowering the gamut and the screen improves the picture massively.

    It feels sharper, not washed out, more HD like and the viewing angle is increased.

    I prefer matt, but as glossy goes its a decent screen.

    Please note, if you go with the European version - yes youll get matte (and a fake leather palmrest), but you will lose backlit keyboard and i7 840Qm Quadcore and more expensive too. Swings and roundabouts - it was easy for me, I went for the US version and havent looked back.
     
  12. dmk2

    dmk2 Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    242
    Messages:
    504
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    31
    Depends on what you use it for. For general productivity use and most games, it's fine. Just turn off the auto-brightness. But for movie watching, it's disappointing. The light bleed and viewing angle issues are really noticeable in dark scenes.

    If you're handy, you could also transplant your FW screen into the F. I saw posts about that somewhere in one of the F owners lounge threads and I've thought about doing it myself.
     
  13. MassiveAttack

    MassiveAttack Notebook Geek

    Reputations:
    23
    Messages:
    97
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    15
    Or just wait until the F13 refresh at the end of this month. Apparently there will be two 1080p screen options available.
     
  14. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Good news, where did you read that?
     
  15. Penicillin

    Penicillin Notebook Consultant

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    113
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    Do you like it even with screen viewing angles issue?
     
  16. Virtua

    Virtua Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    34
    Messages:
    304
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    30
    I don't see the issue as being any more than on any other laptop.
     
  17. Chicagogirlie

    Chicagogirlie Newbie

    Reputations:
    0
    Messages:
    6
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    5
    I'd be interested in hearing the answer to this as well. I'm about ready to pull the trigger. I read in the LARGE F thread that there may be a release in October. This is based on previous releases in past years and the sonystyle Canadian site.
     
  18. Gandalf_The_Grey

    Gandalf_The_Grey Notebook Evangelist

    Reputations:
    443
    Messages:
    541
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    31
    If you can it is almost always wise to wait...

    If the F13 is an improvement, get that one (USB3?????????).
    If there is not much improvement, maybe you can get a good deal on the then old model F12.

    If neither you are screwed :D