With 8GB & i7 specs?
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They did... it is called the Z2
I know what you mean here... but things change.
Look at all the little U computers over the years. U, U3, UX the PictureBooks, the P
I think what Sony is trying to do is merge the Z down into the X.
Let's face it the X was NOT a success. For the most part the people that were happy with the T, TT, TX, TZ etc. were happy with the VGN-Z and the VPC-Z. I am not saying that it is the right direction but this is Sony they are going to do whatever the crap they want. -
Sony needs a 11" entry.
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^They have an 11", the YB. Right?
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I think the rise of netbooks since 2008 really hurt Sony's premium, ultraportable T series line. I was pretty attached to it as well, had good memories with the TX and TZ a few years back.
Now, you can find ultraportable laptops and netbooks that can do almost all that Sony's T series machines could have done at a fraction of the cost. Sure, their screen, design or battery life may not compare, but its easy to overlook when you are comparing $600 to $2000. -
well the failure on Sony part was not marketing the hell out of the Z. It was by far the smallest lightest offering out there that still could be used as a full size computer. It blows away any Mac in size. I got the new Z to replace the X and while it blows it away in performance and specs its quite a bit larger.
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that mirrors the lock of marketing efforts Sony did for the Minidisk back in the late 90s
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The 11'' sony's are the YA and YB and there is some new laptop from sony on the fcc website, but not sure if this is a netbook or normal laptop.
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I guess there's hope for an 11" envelope-pushing ultrabook, I'd certainly check one out - the reason I never looked at the X was because it was an Atom, and therefore unusable. Problem is though, our tech media nowadays seems to be primarily populated by adult versions of broke students. So good luck with the visibility, Sony...
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I too want another 11" Sony to come out but there's no indication that this will happen any time soon. I really want to upgrade my P with something with more power but don't want to go up too much in size nor weight. -
Wow, this thread just made me google image the lappys mentioned and wow, the x and the p are just amazing! :O
Sony really should make a new version of them again.
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I certainly hope so, they need some small footprint premium model. Also what I would like to see is resurrected powerful G series (12.1"). That would be a treat.
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As for the minidisk, it was a shame, yes it had its bad parts like the compression and licensing, etc. but the form factor was amazing and the hard case protected the disk. I think part of the reason for failure just like the caddy for CD was that the music companies wanted to back a format that fevered damaging the disk and need for replacement. But thats another subject...
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Just buy a 11" MBA. It can run Windows, plus Apple believes in offering users first class support and regular firmware & driver updates.
The MBA design is in a class of its own, so those wanting a 11" solution should look no further. -
Before I purchased the new Z, I wanted to compare it to the X and was only able to find one store in Chicago (Micro Center) about a month ago (again great marketing Sony) that had the new Z in stock and on display. While there I walked over to the Apple department and looked at the 11" Mac. It was nice and size looked very small and light. Until I placed my X next to it. It was far bigger and heavier then my X. -
^Apple has done a remarkable job on the MBA's making them look and feel smaller and thinner that they are. The MBA's really aren't that thin.
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The only people who say Macs can run Windows are people who have never had a proper Windows machine.
The design, and the ability to stroke the egos of the ignorant is great. The engineering sucks. The reverse is true to most extents for Sony. -
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Funny. I just mused about this in another thread
http://forum.notebookreview.com/sony/619237-sony-vaio-ultrabook-christmas-12.html#post8088932
FWIW, the closest thing to the T is Panasonic's J - only available in Japan. -
Wondering what you are running on your machine that has such high requirements?
I did not want to imply Qualia was great but unknown due to Sony's lock of advertising. I personally did not care for it even when driven by $3k source and $5k headphone amp. Although there could have very well been fit issues and I needed deferent size of the pads.
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Like I said in that post I link above, Sony used to innovate in the ultraportable space. Now they don't. -
The R10, I was never really all that impressed by to be honest. TBH I would take an HD650 over it. -
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Never had a chance to try Beyer T1, kids use 250-80 and had 880. As for the 010 fit, agree although I never owned it. Surprised/shocked a little by your statement of HD650 over R10
In some circles you would be burned on the stake
(disclaimer, not a huge fan of none electrostatic Senn, used to own 600 and 650).
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So I'm not sure how the current Z is really innovative - this coming from someone who has owned plenty of Vaios and loved Sony design of them for years. -
One thing I'm not sure about is whether Sony have used the carbon overmoulding before. Looking at the sales literature, probably not since they phrase the construction method differently this time - so I'd say that could well be a new actual innovation with the Z2.
That aside, it's a definite worthwhile improvement in terms of something actually portable. I was initially pretty surprised to get 7 hours actual productivity time out of the standard unit in power saving, not some Applezombie reviewer hypermiling his Crapbook to say he gets what Apple claims. As a result I've barely carried the sheet battery, since it usually lasts me a whole working day. That to me is already an improvement over the last Z - I don't have to fit an extended battery to get real all-day-runtime, as the standard didn't quite cover it.
I do have the same qualms as you do about the GPU - although not because it's lacking a GPU. The Intel 3000 is actually absolutely adequate for the sort of non-real-time (or near-real-time) visualisation that I usually actually need a GPU for on the move, but the irony is that I can get a $700 i5 HP to run it while the $4K-spec Z will not because of the b0rked ATI-Intel drivers (and since I want to run the ATI when it's docked, I've no real choice in the matter). This is a problem. And one that I hope ATI-Sony fixes darned soon. -
Anyways. I can see Sony bringing either one back as an ultrabook. I can see Sony taking the ultrabook idea and throwing Sony style and innovation into it. Apple and Sony are really the only PC manufacturers that aren't afraid to stray away from the norm and create unique notebooks. Sony moreso. -
When all is said and done, my Panasonic J10 was more than your Z, but I don't have weird issues with it and I can honestly say it's the first time in about 7 years I haven't had wanderlust. Heck, I've even had 4 - 5 hours of use just doing stuff with VMs which in the past would have been impossible - even with the full processor and not a ULV. -
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The fact is, Apple's battery tests have changed dramatically. The 2010 MacBook Pros claimed getting 9 hours of battery life when they really got 5-5.5.
This year's MacBook Pros have much improved battery life - similar to all notebooks that moved to Sandy Bridge. There is no arguing that. Every review is stating that the 2011 MacBook Pros get good battery life. What is your point exactly? -
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Not loyal to Apple at all. I admittedly have Apple stock, but I have a Samsung Galaxy as a phone and when I shopped for a laptop I came extremely close to buying either an X220 or Sony Z2. My previous laptop was an HP. The only reason I picked the MacBook Pro was because I found out that I need a discrete graphics card built into the computer for when I had to work in the studio.
In fact, if I had the option now, I'm pretty sure I would pick the Sony Vaio SE... I really wish this MacBook Pro had a 1080p screen.
Will Sony ever revive the X or TT?
Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by led20719, Nov 1, 2011.