Will i notice a difference in gaming for a T7250 vs a T8300 processor?

Just wondering if there would be a gaming difference, if both had the 8400 nvidia and both had the same amount of ram.

Only difference is T7250 and T8300 processors, will the videocard just bottle neck the performance the same? Will there be a difference in the gaming?

 

8400 is a weak card your proccessor is irrelevent... maybe you can look for a puma based system you get a ATi Radeon 3200 IGP which is faster than the 8400 and uses less power. plus it's likely quite a bit cheaper. you might even be able to get one with HD 3450, which can run Hyrbrid CrossFire which is way faster than the 8400. just a thought. but to directly answer your question, there will be no difference.

 

If you do go that route, note that the ATI card and AMD CPU will probably eat your battery up quite a bit more than the Nvidia Intel combo would...

 

possible, but AMD did put alot of power tec in the new chips so they are better on battery than the older turions. eg. seperate throttling, the core frequancies can run at seperate speeds. core 0 = 2.1ghz, core1 = 800mhz. and also it only runs the dedicated GPU when needed. otherwise it uses the IGP.

I'd be willing to bet that under light load it does better of battery than intel/nvidia..
under load, hard to say.

good point thought!

 

well i was wondering because these were the 2 viaos i had in mind and i was just going to get new ram for either of them i get.. so its all depending on which processor would show improvement in gaming.. if the T7250 is the same in gaming because of the videocard.. then i might as well get the cheaper one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117626

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834117718

i do favor AMD over Intel, but in this case, i want a 13.3 screen because i like the size of the laptop.

 

it shouldnt effect the gaming too much, but 8000series processors come with a larger L2 cache(3GB to 2GB) and as obviously faster

 

how much would it effect gaming?

i was planning on getting 4 gigs of ram, and then getting windows 64 bit.

iam not to much of a gamer.. but i do enjoy RTS games.. and iw as hoping to play SC2 when it comes out.

 

The processor will probably show a more noticable increase in performance in RTS games. I'd definatly go for it if you have the money to burn.

Now let's straighten a few things out The HD3200 "supposadly" outperforms the 8400m G NOT the GS or GT. The 3450 + 3200 in hybrid crossfire might equal an 8600m GS\GT but as buggy and ineffective as crossfire\sli is right now mobile hybrid sli is *probably* going to be a flop

 

i would say go with the 8300. It'll be a better system

 

Heck, if you can tolerate a larger screen you can get a FZ with the T7250, 160 gbHD, 2g ram, 8400m for $999 direct from Sony.

http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10551&storeId=10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665364374

 

It really depends on the game and whether the programmers are taking advantage of the dual cores. (some don't) Most of the 'umph' is going to be coming from the 8400M anyway (unless you are in Stamina mode). Out of your choices I would recommend getting the T8300 (it's what I have). With many recent applications and games recommending a 2.5Ghz processor (or higher) the T8300 (@ 2.4Ghz) is close enough without the ridiculous jump in price that the T9300 commands.

If you're still thinking about the SZ make sure you also invest in low latency (system) memory (Newegg has a Kingston kit that's works well). As far as gaming on the SZ - it's acceptable. If you don't expect miracles you'll probably be happy.

 

yeah iam not too big of a gamer.. as long as it can play RTS's, i'll be fine.

are you sure the requirements are 2.5Ghz on dual cores? or is it 2500 Athlon XP or Pentium 4 2.5Ghz?

 

Actually when they recommend 2.5 Ghz they mean SINGLE CORE. So really having a 2.5 Ghz C2D is definitely overkill for minimum specs...

 

If you can afford it, don't even hesitate to get a T8300 over a T7250. Not only is it faster, but it's much more power efficient in terms of performance-per-watt. And yes, the speed of your CPU will definitely make a difference in gaming, especially for RTS games. Just don't expect to be able to run many games on high graphical settings with a GeForce 8400gs 64mb.

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=3570145

should i worry about this any?

 

wow i didn't realize it but the T9300 even has a higher L2 cache. of 6 mb... so should i get that instead? i just hate how those sony SZ's don't look as good as the non premium ones.

all black vs silver and black.

 

if u have the money, knock yourself out get the 9000 series. I don't know how many current programs can utilize the 6MB cache really well but it would make your vista run better, because vista loves running a lot of its programs in the background.

 

http://www.notebookreview.com/default.asp?newsID=4482
go down to the benchmarks... see the 1,599PCmark? see the 8400GS 1400-1500ish? they are the same at the very least equal.

 

Those 3dmark06 results seem a little strange, from a specs vs score perspective. A 64mb version of the 8400m GS may underperform in benchmarks which could explain it.

3Dmark mean nothing when it comes to real world performance. The HD3200 will never outperform a standard 8400m GS, although it may have a little more shader power.

 

yeah i wish there was more 3dmark charts showing the same systems with just different processors., so i can see the real difference

 

I would only expect this in games that were released prior to the launch of the Core 2 brand (prior to 2006). Any recent games *will* usually make an attempt at indicating the difference.

For example:

Call of Duty 4 system requirements:
Minimum: Pentium 4 2.4 GHz or faster or equivalent
Recommended: 2.4 GHz Duo Core or faster or equivalent

Unreal Tournament III
Minimum: 2.0+ GHZ Single Core Processor
Recommended: 2.4+ GHZ Dual Core Processor

The Witcher
Minimum: Intel Pentium 4 2.4GHz or AMD Athlon 64 +2800
Recommended: Intel Core 2 Duo 2.13 GHz or AMD X2 5600+

Mass Effect system requirements:
Minimum: 2.4+ GHz Intel or 2.0+ GHz AMD
Recommended: 2.6+ GHz Intel or 2.4+ GHz AMD

Crysis system requirements:
Minimum: Intel P4 2.8 GHz / AMD Athlon 2800+ / Intel Core 2.0 GHz or equivalent
Recommended: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D) or equivalent

The video card on the SZ is average at best and I'm certainly not suggesting that the 8400M can run all of these games at 60fps on highest detail. Knowing this why would anyone (considering any notebook - not just the SZ) base the specs off of minimum (and not recommended requirements)? You should do everything possible to help the GPU; that includes both the CPU, memory, and hard drive.

There's a world of difference from meeting the minimum requirements of a game and actually enjoying it. If you meet the minimum requirements the only thing that you are guaranteed of is that you can run the game. (and depending of video drivers sometimes not even that)

 

yeah you nailed it down prety good...

i guess what iam looking for is actually enjoying the game.. but you truely cleared things up in the area of what i need. i guess i'll go ahead and get the T8200... to help out that nvidia 8400 GS M

this will basicaly be my laptop to the real world.. i just got 2 year left of school. so i want something as mobile as my other laptop it is replacing (a 13.3 inch screened Fujitsu)

i would go back with fujitsu but they no longer sell 13.3 screens over on the newegg and i sorta grown a taste for sony's 13.3

basicaly this laptop will have to hold me over for 1 year straight with going to class and playing games. and after that 1 year i hope this laptop will hold for atleast a few months wile i find a job and actually work and make money so that i can later build something to actually really play games on... but even after my college career and job finding is compeltely.. i hope that this laptop will still hold up for me to use commonly.

My fujitsu never died.. i just passed it on to my mom. it ran 4 years straight already, and our desktop at home died and my mom offered to get me a new laptop and i can just give her my old one (sinse she does not use the PC much other then for checking mail)

 

Ok well good luck and enjoy your new machine.

 

the SZ will serve u well. Enjoy and good luck with the next two years.