Windows 7 on TT

Journalism @ its lows ...
Microsoft with its lies again...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28627170

Couple of points, the TT is not a netbook, it is twice as fast as my ex-GRT/GRV and almost as fast as the 2007s midrange SZs but there is no way for Suzanne to know, she writes for volume, not content

If the TT was indeed a netbook and indeed a 400$ machine, my cats would have one EACH.

 

"Customers don't want Linux on those machines"....

Typical MS...NFI....maybe he needs to rethink his statement and change it to "not ALL customers want Linux....bla bla bla" and statements like that further alienating what could be a good base for an OS (Linux that is) from the mainstream, thats business though. (Linux still has a fair way to go to compete with Windows on an even par, however it does show a lot of promise.. - oh and I use Ubuntu as a secondary OS...)

I bet the Linux zealots are not happy now lol

Was that a TT he was holding? Looked like a TZ...meh

 

The TT has an 11'' screen with a 1.4ghz Core 2 Duo standard...if it isn't a netbook then what exactly is it? It sure isn't a multimedia laptop or a desktop replacement that's for sure!

Linux by no means is a viable solution for any mainstream PC user so the comment was very much valid. In order for the "Netbook" segment to become mainstream manufacturers need to put an OS on it that is accepted and capable of running most applications that the average computer user uses. I'm afraid that, that OS is Windows.

 

The TT198 I've got calculates 2M SuperPI for under a minute, the RAID peaks above 200mb/sec, it has a blu-ray burner, DVI out and HDMI out. You can call it a netbook all day long, but I will bet it is faster than your boatanchor . Price wise it has a 0 at the end of the quoted price for a netbook, I wonder why. Maybe because there are many retards like myself wishing to dish 4K on a netbook. Sarcasm aside, but I see a bright future for Linux. If people don't learn it, they are doomed to fail. The times of 'producing no value' but succeeding are OVER!

 

You cannot use price as a way to justify a particular computer's segment especially with Sony because there is a premium for all their items especially the smaller they are. You see the new Sony Vaio P? I do not think you could classify that as anything other than a netbook despite it's price. Lastly, learning how to operate in a linux environment would only be a necessity if you're in IT mainly Networking and maybe the operation of servers and that's it. Anything other than that and Linux is easily bested by Windows and MacOs.

 

Its actually a business orientated ULTRAPORTABLE notebook computer - the term 'netbook' was coined to describe the Asus EeePC some 12 months ago remember, now it seems anything with a form factor of less than 13" is accused of being one...

Again I still think the statement made about customers not wanting Linux is a gross assumption on MS's part as this is not true for ALL computer users - some people do like the idea of ditching Windows you know, and they are by no means geeks or tech minded people - more your mainstream computer user

Mac OS and Linux are distant cousins ....just Apple put some spit and polish on their version of the original base product.

So the only people who will ever need to use Linux work in IT or run Networks? lol :laugh:

We use a Linux based application at work (via a modified version of WABI created just for our use)...and it was the only base OS that actually worked for the application, MS cannot do everything

There will always be people willing to argue over Linux and Windows - I love a good debate

I use Linux Ubuntu, and I use and I actually like Vista - Vista (Windows 7 at the moment) being my main OS - I don't work in I.T., I work in an engineering field (I admit I am studying software engineering at uni though ), and we use XP as our main OS at work. Definately not a mainstream user then, go figure....

 

You've never tried linux, havent you? )) You sound like my mother when I bought her her first remote controlled TV.. Seriously.

I can make you any linux distro to look like/act as either MacOS or 99% like XP. Problem is that people are lazy and are not willing to try. I truly hope the current economic downturn will force all the nay-sayers to go the other direction and try the alternatives since they will be broke anyways. That being said about the manufacturers and the end-users. As for IT, most self-proclaimed admins/managers/engineers can't copy con to save their lives, so once those change jobs to flipping burgers at the local McDonalds, everything else will fall into its place.

Learn your material before arguing with me. The photo in the article is a TT. It has nothing to do with the P series. Not even remotely. The SU9400 has almost the power of E6400 at stock. If you want to switch the discussion to something else, no problem but posting non-sense just for the post count makes no sense what-so-ever.

Thanks to the Down Under Girl for the clarifications above me

p.s. turn ubuntu into macos or turn linux into vista

You interface guys are just hysterical ... so shallow.

 

Anyone who wants to go from Windows to Linux is not the average user by any means necessary. The average computer user wouldn't know what linux was if it hit them in the face.

The thing that they have in common is that they are both "Unix-Like" OS'.

Mac OS is based on a bastar-dized Mach kernel with a FreeBSD 3.x userland and is much more developed than any other Unix-Like OS. It's intuitive GUI separates it from all others as it makes the OS more accessible as opposed to the average Linux Distro. As a result more people use it which entices developers to make more apps for it which is the case for Mac OS X.

I think anyone who tries to act as if Linux's core strength and market isn't as Server OS is either misinformed or in denial. That is not to say that it doesn't have other great uses such as in embedded devices but all I'm saying is the reason it's even relevant is because of it's stability when used as a Server OS.

There is an exception to every rule you know that right? But the simple fact is that Windows is a more versatile operating system than any linux distro you can name. It can serve as a great Server OS but you can turn around and use it to power your media center, your gaming pc, or your development/production rig.

You can make a linux distro look similar to Windows but it will never be Windows. With Windows 7 your system is compatible with at the very minimum 90% of the software on the market today. You may respond with "Well I can use an emulator" but why do that when you can just use Windows?

Reading is fundamental, comprehension is key. I know what laptop was mentioned in the OP but I brought up the P to show that you cannot use price to determine the segment a Sony product belongs in because they have markups on all their products.

 

pointless arguments. Listening to you is like listening to my brother-in-law. The guy is a self-proclaimed, know everything, my way/view is the only way, I will make a big fuss Mac guru, who is so good, that no one would hire him as a tech and delivers towels to hotel chains...

In 2008, I've switched 30% ot my user base to Linux/OpenOffice. The average dumb Windows user sees no difference. Software wise, 90% of the software has 100% equivalent that is either avalable for free or at a nominal charge.

And lets get to the hardcore, if there is something that doesn't run, it is extremely easy to bring up a Citrix / TS Farm and if the company is big enough, save money on the stupid M$ licensing fees to keep one dumb server to do the 'special apps'

 

So in other words you have no defense. Good day.

 

he said and continued to drool on his pr0n.

 

Hahahaha man don't take it so personal...we're just chatting!!!

 

where did you see me being personal. I am being sarcastic. I do personal the italian way . talking about your mamma, sister etc. this is just sarcasm

 

It's kinda hard to tell you're Italian through a monitor but all is well paisan!!!

 

I am not Italian, I am a gypsy but I do personal the italian way `

Either way, I am yanking your chain. I guess the whisky is kicking in. /me theoldfart is going to bed

Cya

 

Thats a bit harsh....and this is where exposure to Linux wouldn't hurt people either now would it? Websurfing and email - if thats all someone wants to use their computer for where is the harm in having them use a Linux based OS? (This is purely for arguments sake in a perfect 15 degrees constant world...)

No arguments from me there, OSX just suffers from rubbish hardware....lol

I never denied that Linux main strength is in server systems...but I think its equally ludicrous to denounce it as a viable desktop OS given a bit more maturity as well - sort of like blind faith that everything MS will produce is perfect...

I name Ubuntu as a very versatile OS - Mythbuntu - media centre PC, Ubuntu - there are a LOT of games that run very well under Crossover Games / Cedega and you can always use a Playstation3 after all... Ubuntu also has a server OS with full commercial support from Canonical. As for development work you can use Linux for pretty much everything except MS specific languages.. How is that not versatile then?!

Well the fact that you are talking about 'emulators' really shows ignorance in regards to the Wine project and Linux in general - you can use an 'emulator' to play Nintendo games on Linux sure, no arguments here...you want to have a look at Ubuntu or OpenSUSE when it comes to '90%' hardware support with Dell notebooks having 100% hardware compatibility with Ubuntu....

Linux is obviously a thorn in your side and is something you are not willing to be flexible about - sure you don't work for MS?! You sound like you have been blinded by the light thats all...lol

 

There is nothing wrong with Linux at all especially when used for basic functions like web browsing especially with nice distros like Ubuntu. But when faced with the choice of going Linux or Windows there's really no contest. With Linux you will be more secure but with Windows you'll have everything else. Everything that can be done with a computer can be done on Windows without any hassles.

If you saying that Linux needs a little bit more maturity in order to be a viable alternative then you are proving my argument right. Windows is now, Linux is ???.

Mythbuntu is great but it's not as polished as Windows Media Center and User Friendly...as you said before, it needs to mature. Cadega is great I will agree with that as it uses the Windows API instead of emulation...it's very similar to WINE! It's a great solution for Linux users but the simple fact that one would want to recreate the Windows environment on Linux shows that Windows is superior in some aspects.

I was mocking him moreso than anything...I know what WINE is.

I love linux but I wouldn't recommend it to someone as their go-to OS for daily functions. Ubuntu is up to par with the Windows and Mac OS X but it's software library is just not all that strong. Lastly, consumers are not going to want to install a program on their computers just to be able to run other applications. All in all Linux is a great OS but I would recommend it for more professional application as the skill level and knowledge required to use it successfully at the moment is beyond that of the average user. It doesn't have the developer support necessary to make it an actual competitor to Windows in any market other than Server OS.

 

Awesome debate

Now that I can see where you are coming from

Pretty much we draw the same conclusions we just went about it in different ways lol

Cheers!

 

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