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    <<? Z11 Or Tt150 ?>>which Is Beauty?powerful?portabl For Dayly Working?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by civil_eng, Nov 18, 2008.

  1. civil_eng

    civil_eng Notebook Enthusiast

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    **********z11 Or Tt150 Black**********
    Is Tt150 Beautyful Or Z11? I Watch Only Pic And Video Of Z Serious And Tt Srious....if U Watch Z And Tt Black In Real Life And Work Whit Them,plz Tell To Me Tt150 Black Is More Beautiful Than Z11?and Tt150 Has Enough Powerful To Replace The Desktop Pc Similar The Macbook Air And Lenove Thinkpad X300 And Z11?tt150 Has Much Better Than Tz 37gn?(i Am Civil Eng And My Daily Work Is Onenote&autocad&3dmax&adobe Photoshop Whit Notebook)...
     
  2. sonoritygenius

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    The Z would serve your needs much better - Auto CAD, photoshop you need CPU power + GPU + screen res 1600x900 13.1 is better to work with photoshop than the smaller one on TT..

    it all comes down to personal perference, the weight is kind of close and screen estate is gained with the Z..

    Both are stylish and I thought the TT was essentially a baby-Z anyway ;)
     
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    HI, I have a question..
    Can Auto CAD, photoshop run smooth on the Z?
     
  4. civil_eng

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    thanx....but a question....are u saw the z and tt in real life?and are u work whit z and tt?i know the performance of z is too much better than tt....in pcpro the score of tt=69 and z=120...z11 is much more powerful than tt150 in paper...but in real life z is beauty r tt black? tt black not have enough power to my daily work?z11 is too larger than tt for travel?in real life not on the paper!
     
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    ofcourse.....the z performance for cad and 3d and photoshop is 1st.....but for tt150 whit cpu 1.2 ///2g ddr3///intel 4500 gdr3//// can work fine whit that program ???
     
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    ...The Z is good... but if you're working with AutoCAD, I'd think something with a much larger screen would be better. The Z has plenty more power than the TT, and would be better suited for your tasks.

    If you're set on getting a Z, you must absolutely get a larger monitor to display with. 13" is terrible for AutoCAD. I'm an Engineer too, you absolutely have to have a larger screen for applications like that. >_<
     
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    Temjinzero...i Have A 15" Lapy In My Home But It Is Too Heavy And Too Large For Everyday Traveling To My Buildigs...i Want To Buy A Lapy That Has Very Portabl And Medium Powerful And So Much Beautiful....is The Z11 Beatiful??i Dont See It In Real Life...
     
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    TemjinZero Notebook Evangelist

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    I really like the Z series look myself.

    In terms of what you need (processing power/weight), the Z is everything you're looking for.

    I just reccommend you also get a monitor you can connect your Z to use while you're CAD'ing, basically just a larger screen you can leave at work because a 13" screen is too small no matter what for things like CAD.
     
  9. Phil

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    Z all the way for you. "Autocad&3dmax&adobe Photoshop" are not the things you want to do with ULV CPUs, an 11" screen and IGP.

    civil_eng where are you from?
     
  10. civil_eng

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    ...z Is Much Powerful,i Know, But The Ulv Is So Beatiful And Very Light To Traveling,,,tt150 Is Not Poweful As Macbook Air?the Scor Of Tt&mba=69 In Pcpro
     
  11. Phil

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    As far as i know the difference is only 200 grams.

    Macbook Air is quite a bit more powerful than TT. 1,86Ghz CPU and Nvidia9400 GPU. But TT has close to 2x longer battery life.
     
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    Phil And Temjin...i Want To Buy My Lapy Tomarow..which?tt150 Or Z11? Are Z11 Beauty And Portabl As TT?
     
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    Get the Z21 with premium carbon fibre lid. One of our Z groupies can tell you which one that is :)

    But an all black TT is more sexy and beautiful in my opinion.
     
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    I'd say Z too.

    No matter what, neither the TT nor the Air are notebooks designed for the applications you use. If anything, I think of them as "ultra-powerful/expensive" netbooks.
     
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    Ok,,,but Phil And Temjin...are U Working Whit Tt SeriouS?maybe Tt Has A Powerful Lapy.SU CPU WHIT 800MHZ BUS SPEED AND DDR3 WHIT 800MHZ SPEED ..AND HARD WHIT 5400 RPM.....ofcours Sexy And Beauty,,,,but Z Are Much Powerfull Lapy Only And Perhaps Ugly....no?
     
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    I haven't worked with TT and yes you are right it should be capable of running those applications.

    I've worked a lot with TZ though and in my opinion an 11" screen isn't as comfortable as 13".

    But I get the feeling you want the TT, even if 100 people would tell you to buy the Z :)
     
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    lol....TT IS THIN,,,BUT I THINK Z IS LARGE FOR DAILY TRAVEL,,,,TT IS SEXY BUT Z I THINK MUST BE UGLY...AND I THINK THE LCD OF TT SIMILAR TZ IS BRIGHTER THAN Z LCD....
     
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    The Z21 with premium carbon lid is sexy AND powerful.

    But if you want a laptop that turns heads and people say 'wow' to, get the TT.
     
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    Realy?is Beter Than Z11? Z21's Performance?CPU MUST BE 2.54 6MB CACHE AND 4GIG DDR3 WHIT BLURAY AND SOLID STATE DRIVE?
     
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    No Z11 and Z21 will perform the same, if they have the same CPU and memory.

    The reason I'm saying Z21 is that the Z21 can come with a premium carbon lid (i think). It's a special material.

    But not all Z21s have Premium carbon. Who knows which one does?
     
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    The TT in Canada uses the SU9300 Core:
    Model Number: Core 2 Duo SU9300
    Frequency: 1200 MHz
    L2-Cache: 3072 KiB
    Front Side Bus: 800 MT/s
    Mult: 6x
    Voltage: 1.050 - 1.150 V
    TDP: 10 W

    The SU9400 is similar, but clocks 200 MHz faster.

    The P8600 in the Z:
    Model Number: Core 2 Duo P8600
    Frequency: 2400 MHz
    L2-Cache: 3072 KiB
    Front Side Bus: 1066 MT/s
    Mult: 9x
    Voltage: 1.00V - 1.250V
    TDP: 25 W
     
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    And Z21's Price?phil? U Must Be Have Z591 Whitout Solid State Drive No?and U Think Z 21 Is Much Powerful And Beautiful Than Tt Black Serios?
     
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    The Z is BETTER looking, STYLISH and BETTER suited for your USAGE and NEEDS!!!!!!!!

    Stop going by the 'sexy' factor = You are USING the laptop for YOURSELF, you are buying it to use it for AutoCAD, and Photoshop SO GET THE Z!
     
  24. Rachel

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    I think that the TT with the premium carbon fibre lid is much better looking than the Z.

    Specs wise the Z seems better for you though i think given what you want to do with your computer.
     
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    Temjin... I Know The Z Serious Is The Best Powerful Vaio Serios But The Tt Serious Is Not Has A Bad Performance...is Much Better Than Tz....cpu Bus Whit 800mhz And Ddre Whit 800mhz Speed Is Not Bad For Cad And 3dmax And Photoshop...the Lcd Of Tt Is Brighter Than Tz......and Sexy And Portable...
     
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    Going from a 15", the Z size would still feel really portable if you ask me. It's not like it's huge or ugly. It's quite light and sexy in my opinion, and certainly not so different from the TZ/TT that one could be beautiful and the other hideous. :p

    The Z has better power, and you seem to really need that. I think even if you love the TZ/TT design and weight, it'd be a poor choice in terms of hardware. Maybe consider another brand if you must have something smaller than the Z. If you want Sony for sure, and you're set on one computer and need it for all those tasks ... go for the Z. You can get a docking station and when you're at home, put it in the docking station attached to an external monitor that is plenty large for comfort.
     
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    Rachuk Thnx...i Want My Lapy To Be Powerful But Very Bright Lcd...and Must Be Portabl For Daily Traveling To Working...and Must Be Powerful For Cad &3d Max&photoshop...
     
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    BINGO!

    you will be STUPID to get the TT (with ULV cpu) over the Z!

    Sorry had to use such phrasing but you just dont seem to GET IT!
     
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    Alaskagrown...tt Has Su Cpu Whit 800mhz Speed But Tz"s Bus Speed Has 553mhz,,,,tt Has Ddr3 Ram Whit 800mhz Speed But Tz Has Ddr2 Whit 553mhz Speed...tt Has Intel 4500 Gdr3 But Tz Has Intel 950 Graphic....and Tt's Hdd Has 5400rpm But Hdd Of Tz's Has 4200rpm.....now Are Tz Similar To Tt????!!!!no.....tt Is Much More Powerful Than Tz Serious...and Sexy And Beauty....z Is The Best I Know...but It Is Too Large...and Ugly I Think...
     
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    You asked for opinion. I gave mine. Don't pretend it was uncalled for.

    If you know what you want, good for you, order it. Between TT and TZ, I'd go with the TT. I'm just saying, I think the Z sounds like a better performance fit for you, I'm sorry if you disagree. The TZ vs Z are more different than you seem to acknowledge if you ask me, including the difference between the performance of the different processors.

    Go forth, buy your TT, be a happy owner. It really doesn't matter what everyone else thinks if you've got your mind set and don't want to hear the input, but next time that is the case, don't ask for opinions then get angry with them.
     
  31. TemjinZero

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    O_O...

    The Z is too large? Are you kidding me?

    I used to use a 15.4" Dell Inspiron 6000, now while 15.4" is a great, almost ideal size, THAT'S RIDICULOUSLY HEAVY for something you'd want to carry around every day currently.

    The 3.31 lbs of the Z is amazing. Even the TT is like 2.87 lbs. There's hardly a difference.

    Exact Weight/Size Dimensions:
    TT:
    Weight: 2.87 lbs.
    Measurements: 10.99"(W) x 0.93"(H) x 7.87"(D)

    Z:
    Weight: 3.31 lbs (with standard battery)
    Measurements: 12.4"(W) x 1.0-1.3"(H) x 8.3"(D)

    If you still believe the TT is what you want... then there almost seems like there was never a point in making the topic, since you already seem so dead set on the TT series unit. Many of us in this topic have tried to advise you otherwise that performance wise, the Z would be more ideal. If you truly want a TT, then you should just go and buy a TT. However, if you end up finding that it doesn't perform as you need it to... well... "we told you so". >_>

    As fellow notebook enthusiasts, we can only offer you suggestions and advice on what we believe best suits your needs based on the information you provide for us. If you disagree, well, you're fully allowed to disagree with the opinions of others. We cannot force our choices upon you, but can only help you to make the correct decisions. Whether or not you choose to heed the advice of others is up to you.
     
  32. civil_eng

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    Baby Alaskagrown....i Told That In Real Life Not In Paper If U Work Whit Z And Tt''''z And Tt'''''''''not Z Only'''''''not Z And Tz''''''''''z And Tt'''''work Whit Z And Tt And See Tt And Z In Real Life Plz Tell Me What Lapy Is Beautiful And Powerful And Portable For My Working?the All Person That Answer To Me Only Have Z Serius And Work Whit Z.....nobody Has Tt Serius But All Answer Told Me The Z Is Better Than Tt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!when U Dont Work Whit Tt Serius Tell Me Z Is Better Than Tt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!what!!!!!!!!!
     
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    I own none of them. I have briefly played with the TZ and the Z. My opinion are based off the hardware specifications more than anything.

    If you insist on being so rude and defensive, fine, but I will call you out on it. Replying with a million exclamation marks doesn't make your points any better than others.
     
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    My Friend Temjin...i Know What U Think....but I Told When I Dont See And Work Whit Tt I Dont Tell Tt Serious Is Bad And Because I Have Z Serius Yhe Z Serius Is The Best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!i Think That Is Wrong When I Dont See And Work Whit Lapy Tell That Is Bad!!!!!!!
     
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    civil.

    The TT's design is for on the road work. Say you travel a lot in business. You may need a laptop that has a very long battery life and is very easy to carry around. That's the TT. It's specs let you do that. However, it's processing power limits it to Office applications, such as Word, Excel, and e-mails, and isn't well suited to handling the high requirement programs you are planning to use it for.

    The Z (especially the Premium Carbon Fiber lid edition) has a very sleek look, but has the capability to handle the tasks you are asking of for a notebook. This is what everyone in this topic has been saying for the past few pages.
     
  36. skylinelks

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    So why dun you just go for TT?
    You have already chosen it
    Something that you dun know you should never expect others know.
    If you does not feel comfortable with others' answer, then dun ask
    You are here looking for recommondation/suggestion
    & not looking for someone to agree with you

    You want something pretty & sexy?
    Paint a hello ketty on your laptop
    or use gold to wrap it up
    Then everyone would say "WOW"


    PS:I support Z
     
  37. TemjinZero

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    sonority... I think you need to give him the benefit of the doubt due to the language barrier. He understands the specs, yes, but doesn't really understand the differences.

    I rechecked the entire topic, and while we have all said the Z is a better choice for what he wants to do with the laptop, no one has stated what the TT specializes in.
    While it may be obvious to some people that the TTs lower spec numbers aren't going to handle things like AutoCAD well, we shouldn't assume that everyone understands those kind of things.

    civil, the fact is that programs like AutoCAD and Photoshop are very demanding programs (CAD especially) that units like the TT will have a difficult time running. Yes you can probably still get CAD to work on a TT, but the loading times/operational speed/performance of running CAD on a TT will be considerably WORSE than if you were to run them on the Z.

    In addition, I don't think the TT even has a graphics option other than the integrated X4500? That's kinda insane. At least with the Z, the 9300M will be able to better support CAD usage.

    EDIT:
    Please don't call people "Baby". That's incredibly derogatory. I don't even know you.

    Second EDIT:
    ...Actually... I take that back. He's read my previous post where I explained what each laptop would specialize in and he still doesn't seem to understand that the TT is meant for a different purpose than the Z is. -__- I think I'm even starting to lose patience.
     
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    Due the apparent lack of regard for the forum rules by the thread starter(many posts are deleted), this thread is now closed and the OP is on a little break.