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    Z12 Available on SonyStyle (US)

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by riseagainst80, Jun 2, 2010.

  1. SkepticScot

    SkepticScot Notebook Enthusiast

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    Clarify my last post, the price does not include the Service Agreement. That is just the price for the computer. I ordered the 3 year with Accidental Damage for $399.99 (I can't afford to have a loss, I usually keep machines running for 5 or 6 years before replacing them). The 15% discount does not include the accessories, but I don't see why you couldn't order a mouse and a sleeve.
     
  2. DeathDealer

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    How is the difference between the 6g and 8g ram? Is it marginal or very distinguishable?
     
  3. michibahn

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    hi.. you ordered through phone right? did the re offered 15% discount right away or you asked for it?

    thanks
    allan
     
  4. jon_lui

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    If your use of the computer is mostly entertainment center (watch movie) or play games and web browse, 6gb is more than enough. But if you do use the Z for productivity such as programming, heavy photoshop or vitualization 8gb might be a safer bet.
     
  5. ahsan.mughal

    ahsan.mughal Notebook Evangelist

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    Finally got it !

    US-VPCZ1290X-LBOM
    Large Capacity Battery
    No Fresh Start
    Adobe Creative Bundle
    6GB (4GBx1 + 2GBx1) DDR3-SDRAM-1066
    Microsoft® Office 2010 Starter
    No Mobile Broadband Built-In
    Norton Internet Security™ 2010 (30 Day Trial)
    CD/DVD Player/Burner
    No Engraving
    Intel® Core™ i5-540M processor (2.53GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.06GHz
    13.1" VAIO Full HD Premium Display (1920x1080) (Reg. price $100.00)
    Premium Carbon Fiber
    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit
    256GB (128GBx2) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology
    2 years Service Plan
    Next Business Day Shipping

    $2506.35


    :D
     
  6. nMotion96

    nMotion96 Notebook Geek

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    My total came out to be almost like yours $2,508.20. But i got the z11 with 8gb ram and 384gb ssd instead. no service plan and 1600x900 screen.
     
  7. ahsan.mughal

    ahsan.mughal Notebook Evangelist

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    I was planning the same before.. but oh well.... :D
     
  8. Benlehot

    Benlehot Notebook Geek

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    nice! what is Metal Mosaic in the color options?

    edit: here it is:

    [​IMG]

    i'm going to call tomorrow and see what discounts i can get :)
     
  10. Benlehot

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    tell me what you'll get !
     
  11. DeathDealer

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    Quick question, does ram effect gaming at all?
     
  12. PascalT

    PascalT Notebook Guru

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    not really. 4gb is enough for anyone that doesn't do stuff like editing/design or animation IMO. I have 8gb on my work machine (design).

    Personally I'll go with 6gb because i multitask a ton... but if you want to save some money i think 4gb is fine for most users.
     
  13. SPEEDwithJJ

    SPEEDwithJJ NBR Super Idiot

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    Am I the only one disappointed that Sony USA still do not offer the following VAIO Z CTO options:

    1) HDD only instead of SSD + optical drive
    2) 2x USB Ports (USB2.0) + iLink instead of 3x USB Ports (USB2.0)

    By the way, it is interesting to see that Sony Canada has got the following color options available for VAIO Z CTO orders while Sony USA do not offer them as of now:

    1) Metal Shield
    2) Metal Mosaic
     
  14. TofuTurkey

    TofuTurkey Married a Champagne Mango

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    I have those options, import from Japan :) You get full choice of every option.
     
  15. SkepticScot

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    I said a friend got it and it was easy after that, but you still have to shell out for warranty and accessories
     
  16. PascalT

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    is the 10% discount easy to get? I'm thinking of just calling them and saying i'd like 10% off or else i won't buy it. :)
     
  17. Minicoop831

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    I pulled the trigger

    Standard Capacity Battery
    No Fresh Start
    Adobe Creative Bundle
    4GB (2GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1066
    Microsoft® Office 2010 Home & Business
    No Mobile Broadband Built-In
    Norton Internet Security™ 2010 (30 Day Trial)
    CD/DVD Player/Burner
    No Engraving
    Intel® Core™ i7-620M processor (2.66GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.33GHz
    13.1" VAIO Full HD Premium Display (1920x1080) (Reg. price $100.00)
    Premium Carbon Fiber
    Genuine Windows® 7 Professional 64-bit
    256GB (128GBx2) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology

    I will buy more ram once it becomes cheaper, and I would have got the quad raid, as it is nice to have that speed and extra storage but the price not so much, Sony just has a ridiculous price for that option I am sorry but 1,300 on top of 1,900 base price is just plain ripping people off
     
  18. jon_lui

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    Interesting how all the CTO options are cheaper for Canada then for US. For once we are not shafted.
     
  19. DeathDealer

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    Quick question: Is the blu ray player on the Z region free or is there any possibility to play region free blu's on it?
     
  20. eijijc

    eijijc Newbie

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    So based on the recent posts, Sony is requiring the extended warranty + 2 accessories for the 15% discount? Is the discount only 10% without the warranty? Additionally, would they refund the full warranty price if you initially purchased the warranty and then cancelled it later?

    I'm curious because the 3rd party extended warranty plans from provantage are priced quite a bit lower and would like to calculate the most cost effective option for purchasing a new Z.
     
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    How does the campus connection buying work? Has anybody bought a Z12 that way? Experiences?

    Thanks
     
  22. skagen

    skagen Notebook Deity

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    This is Sony device - do you even need to ask? ;)
     
  23. ahsan.mughal

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    You can get the 10% discount through the website online too. Note: you will have to add 2 years warranty service plan and the promotional discount automatically applies ( this is for educational store ).

    For the next 5% you have to push a bit over the phone lolx
     
  24. zonules

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    the 10% is with the warranty and it is 10% off of the computer only, so if you return the warranty (I think you have 30 days) then you should get the full refund.
    I got 15% off of the computer but I brought a warranty (which I will keep, dont trust those smaller dealers who may disappear in one year) but I may return one of the 2 accessories.
     
  25. PascalT

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    so if i call them and if i want a discount they won't give it to me without taking the warranty?

    I don't want the warranty since my Visa card gives me an extra 1 yr of on the warranty already.
     
  26. ahsan.mughal

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    without warranty, you might be able to get 5% discount.

    I know my AMEX also gives me extra 1 year of warranty, but I still bought 2 years service plan since 15% discount was too good lolx
     
  27. PascalT

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    did you still save money on the 15% deal?
     
  28. ahsan.mughal

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    yes, around $270
     
  29. PascalT

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    i called to order at sony canada and they don't offer any discounts on the z since it's brand new. All he could offer me is free expedited shipping (worth $49) and 20% off accessories.

    i tried to get even 5% and it didn't work :(
     
  30. ahsan.mughal

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    Sucks ! I got the expedited shipping too plus the discount.
     
  31. DeathDealer

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    Is there anyway to bypasss the region coding? Through some programming or media player?
     
  32. PascalT

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    yea mentioned some people got 15% but he says that's only in the US.. in Canada we got the bad end of the stick.
     
  33. oltx1008

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    Bought this from tigerdirect for 1800 (price match with j&r) - 234 bing cashback = 1566.

    Sony VAIO VPCZ122GX/B Laptop Computer - Intel Core i5-520M 2.40GHz, 4GB DDR3, 128GB SSD, DVDRW, 13.1 Display, Windows 7 Professional 64-bit, Black at TigerDirect.com

    It has only a 1600x900 screen though. Wondering whether the full HD screen is as good as everybody says it is to justify returning this and order one from sonystyle. The full HD and i5 540 with the discount and tax would end up costing 1900. Is it worth the 300 bucks difference? Regular software geek use, no creative graphic design or gaming stuff.
     
  34. PascalT

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    probably not. as a cto it was only 35 dollars for me so i got it of course. the hd will give you some extra 'space' and slightly better colors but not 300 bucks better stuff.
     
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    I noticed that the Z12 doesn't offer 128GBx1 SSD. It only offers 128GB in a 64x2 configuration. Does anyone know if that's a disadvantage? I would assume having 128x1 would be a better solution. The Z11 offers this option.
     
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    Ordered at tigerdirect for 1950 which provides you a 234 bing cashback. Called them back in an hour and asked them to pricematch with j&r and they take off 150 without affecting the bing cashback.
     
  38. Idz21

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    Did they give you any trouble because you placed the order, and then called in to do the price match? Their stipulations state that you must do a price match before you buy the product.
     
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    They did at first, but when I called in again and spoke to a different representative everything went smoothly.
     
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    I have a question is it possible to get the promotional discount from buying a service plan (10%) and then extra for the educational discount? because i cant remember properly but when i tried to configure the Z11 last week i THINK that i was able to get both online because my total was like 25xx-26xx and it went down to $2,0xx and i was like shocked and i just checked out for the options i want
    Large Capacity Battery No Fresh Start Adobe Creative Bundle 4GB (2GBx2) DDR3-SDRAM-1066 Microsoft® Office 2010 Starter No Mobile Broadband Built-In Norton Internet Security™ 2010 (30 Day Trial) CD/DVD Player/Burner No Engraving Intel® Core™ i5-540M processor (2.53GHz) with Turbo Boost up to 3.06GHz 13.1" VAIO Full HD Premium Display (1920x1080) (Reg. price $100.00) Premium Carbon Fiber Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit 256GB (128GBx2) Solid State Drive with RAID 0 Technology
    Plus 2Yr ADH Warranty

    $ 2,669 .98
    Promotional Discount - $267 .00
    Tax $ 0 .00 Shipping $ 0 .00
    Remaining Balance $ 2,402 .98
    but the Z12 isnt adding on the educational discount so i just did the math and it came out to
    15% of 2402 = 360.3
    2 402 - 360 = 2 042
    which seem really really perfect for me,
     
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    2x64 is faster then 1x128 =) At least it should be faster
     
  42. ahsan.mughal

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    From what I have seen, the maximum discount you can get is 15% on the notebook price. example:

    2669.98 - 15% = $ 2269.48 + tax
     
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    J&R had just removed their $150 instant rebate, so that deal's shot. For now.
     
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    The 128GBx1 is actually a dual RAID set up. It's one physical drive but two logical drives (64x2). Sony generally lists the number of physical drives (or at least they used to). But if you're seeing them list 64x2, I think that would imply 4 32GB logical drives. Anyone know if that's accurate? If that's true, that would mean you'd be getting a speedy quad RAID in the 128GB option.
     
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    Well.. that sucked. I ordered at Tigerdirect, and by the time the order processed, J&R's price had gone up.
     
  46. Idz21

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    They way they list it is:

    Z11: 128GB SSD (128x1)
    Z12: 128GB SSD (64x2)
     
  47. JP$

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    Hmmm...not sure what to make of it. The 512 option is listed as 256GBx2. This was a Quad RAID in the Z11, so I can't imagine they have changed it in the Z12. In the U.S., the 256GB option was a Dual RAID in the Z11, but I think they listed it as 128GBx2 for that, which would mean they were listing the number of logical drives. I bet that's what they're doing for the Z12 with the 64GBx2. My guess is that's still a Dual RAID configuration, and therefore no different than the Z11.

    A dual RAID will perform slower than a triple RAID, which will perform slower than a quad RAID. But in real world usage you'll probably never notice. I say purchase based on the amount of storage you need. I purchased the 192GB Z11 as a compromise between price, size, and speed. I am wishing I had had more cash to spring for the slower 256GB option, as I'm already down to less than 150GB (and I even got Fresh Start, which keeps off the Sony bloatware).
     
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    I'm going to go with 128 because I don't need that much space, and have an external backup drive where I keep some big things that I don't need to access frequently. Do you know how much space Win 7 Pro takes up? Is it close to 15 gigs?
     
  49. JP$

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    Yes that sounds about right. Mine arrived with only about 170 free out of 192GB. If you don't get the Fresh Start option, be prepared for a lot more taken up than that. I thought I remembered someone posting that they only had around 80 or 85 free out of 128 when theirs arrived.
     
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    Ouch ...
     
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