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    Z2 128GB SSD or 256GB SSD config?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by bigbulus, Nov 17, 2011.

  1. bigbulus

    bigbulus Notebook Consultant

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    Wanted to have 256GB SSD config - does the price justify? I'll be mainly use to store documents, some musics & pictures (but not that many). So is better to get 128GB / 256GB?
     
  2. Sick Nick

    Sick Nick Notebook Consultant

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    Very simple, if you need the storage you will need the 256 GB version. If you don't, the 128 GB will be just as good. For just some documents, music and pictures the 128 GB should be more than enough. The minute you start adding HD movies or large applications and games, I would go for the 256 GB.
     
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    Ashers Notebook Evangelist

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    or you can buy external harddrive and keep most of your files there.
     
  5. Palda

    Palda Notebook Consultant

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    I went with 256GB because 512GB version was out of my budget, but I wouldn't went with less, if not just for the feeling, taht I don't have to worry about limited space, or so.
     
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    i think 256G is a minimum, if you need 128G only then netbook si good enough.
     
  7. jeremyshaw

    jeremyshaw Big time Idiot

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    128GB, iirc, is no better than a late SATAII gen SSD in performance.
     
  8. ota-con

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    Get the 256GB...cause if you regret it...it's not easily upgradeable.
     
  9. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Also, 128GB units depreciate the most on resale market. Get the 256 and if price is too high, I'd get a refurb, lightly used or open box Z1 with 256GB.
     
  10. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    Definitely go for the 256GB unless: 1) you don't and won't need much storage (beyond some basic docs, software, etc.); and 2) you really want a Z2 and the 128GB is already pushing your budget limit. The 256GB option is the Sweet Spot(TM) for value.
     
  11. Jebba

    Jebba Notebook Enthusiast

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    I bought a good nas for about the same money as the upgrade. The result is massive storage for bulk files, raid redundant back up and autonomous downloading etc :)

    I don't need archived documents from years ago every moment of the day and when I need them, i'll just download them by ftp or file manager over the internet. Works like charm :)
     
  12. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    We regret to inform you that the trademark for "Sweet Spot(TM)" has long been registered by others, in all world languages and several on planet Jupiter. Checking to see what is available that is similar......ah yes, no one yet owns: "Place of lemon scarcity" - but only in Latin. Best to get to market a little sooner next time. Have a nice day. :)
     
  13. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    Te audire no possum. Musa sapientum fixa est in aure.
     
  14. skipper63

    skipper63 Notebook Consultant

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    I got the 128GB on my Z1 (I had bought it in a hurry) and I regretted it, have all the time to pay attention to clean up and store any videos, extra photos, music that I don' t listen often on the external HD.
    My Windows folder has grown to almost 24gb, program files at 5gb, music 21gb, photos 15GB, application data another 7gb, videos 6gb (no films, videos for my work), documents 3Gb, Windows XP mode (virtualisation) 3.9GB, program data anorther 3.7gb, pagefile.sys another 3.7gb and I have avoided 3gb if I remember well because I have deactivated hibernation. It adds up to 92GB, I am missing 2-3 somewhere, 95 in total.
    Do not forget 6GB for Sony's restore partition.
    So do yourself a favour and get the 256Gb
     
  15. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Et tu, Louché?

    "I can't hear you. Muse is fixed in the ear of the wise."(?)

    Does this have anything to do with the sheep replacing the bees?
     
  16. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    This is a creative approach, but in the end is it really anything different in effect than renting cloud storage, in a "buy-vs-rent" model? I mean, the two problems I think of with Internet-accessed-files are:

    1) much (much, much) slower access than off internal SSD.
    2) gotta be connected, somehow

    I know 2) is, well, it just is, but do you find the access speed not to be noticeable? Begs the question, why do we need costly SSDs for if 5-20 MB/S is all you need?
     
  17. Dev1ant

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    A solution to mitigate your regret is to spend money on a large SD card. $40 for 32GB to $200 for a 128GB SD card. Put your music/non-essential photos-docs there and you'll free up quite a bit of space on your SSDs for work.
     
  18. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    And here, I was sure I had already suggested that - because of what you taught me :), but that was on another thread. Thing about that is, how much more than $200 is the bump from the 128GB Z2 to the 256GB? I'm big on equipping for the future, which includes re-sale some day, and if the OP can afford the additional, what, $200 over the $200 for the SD card 9IE, $400 more for 25GB?), every penny is worth it for both performance and future value.

    (Truth be told, I want to be the one to buy this from the OP when he/she is ready to move up, so I am custom ordering it :D)
     
  19. phoebusvh

    phoebusvh Notebook Consultant

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    is it possible to replace the SSD in Z2 to the new hybrid harddrive? I'm willing to lose a bit of performance for the additional storage space.
     
  20. ota-con

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    ^
    I don't think it's possible.
     
  21. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    Nemo risum praebuit, qui ex se coepit.
     
  22. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Clearly written for me personally in the Sony forum ;) I would only add:
    qui ridet demum optima ridet :D

    or, perhaps one can live best by the first phrase I was taught in Miss Modewleski's 9th grade Latin class (true):


    agricolae poetae sunt
    (the farmers are poets)

    But I fear we may have drifted a bit off-topic...

    GO FOR THE 256GB; YOU WON'T REGRET IT!
     
  23. phoebusvh

    phoebusvh Notebook Consultant

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    These are the options I think buyer should get. All ranked based on priority:
    1. 8GB Ram. Trust me, this will help a hell lot.
    2. 256 SSD
    3. better processor (the better i5 is best for good battery life + performance, i7 if you are willing to invest in the sheet battery eventually)
     
  24. Louche

    Louche Purveyor of Utopias

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    8GB RAM is a definte "get it" upgrade for most, but not all users. As is having at least 256GB SSD. As for the processor, upgrade to the top i5. The i7 is for people who actually need a bit more performance (or want everything to be top of the line/maxed out) but won't provide benefits for most users.
     
  25. Jebba

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    It depends on what content you decide to 'park' on your nas:
    Besides other bulk, like photo albums and videos, I have a huge archive of live recordings to which I listen a lot, but don't necessary need with me physically.
    By installing a music server on the NAS ( Subsonic) and streaming the music to my laptop over the internet, I don't need to carry around TB's of archive on costly (SSD) space. Music is streamed, so access time is of minor importance.
    Arguably commercial cloud storage would do the same, but critical plus points for me are that I don't have to upload everything to the cloud first, pay montly fees and only have one place where my music etc is stored.
    The latter is very important for me since the same music library is being used for playback at home through a Squeezebox system. I don't want to necessarily have my laptop on when I want to listen to music. Furthermore new music is added to the pool regularly and doesn't need to be synced with the cloud then ;)

    Current projects are stored on the laptop itself, of course :)
     
  26. dariusnaz

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    I opted for 256 and got a class 10 64GB SD card for storing my movies.
     
  27. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Very impressive design/execution. As to not syncing to the Cloud, I would think after going to that much trouble and expense to set up this system and acquire or the music and videos, I might be inclined to at least back up a selective, heavily compressed, subset of the NAS to the cloud - not for streaming, but for fire/theft risk mitigation. Old school method was to store back up copies off-site, but if one can find low cost cloud storage and send periodic update-only back-ups to the cloud without thinking about it, it's certainly easier than storing a physical back up copy off-site.

    As for me, I don't own that many media files - most of the music and video I consume these days is via commercial "cloud streaming" of one sort or another (eg, Netflix, Amazon, i[barf]Tunes) - it's just a luxury to know that everything I own and will add for the foreseeable future is a [very, very] fast click away and I don't have to ask myself whether to offload or store locally - it's all local (and backed up to the Cloud). If/when that ever maxxes out, I'll look into another method. (Of course, if i could just be satisfied to stay with my Z1, there's that DVD bay ready and waiting to house what is for me, virtually infinite capacities using, say, a very fast Segate Momentous XT 1TB drive - later 2TB, 4, ad infinitum) When you're using a magnificent high speed little wonder like either Z series, one of the great joys is to know you've got pretty much everything you could own, right here under the hood, instantly accessible, from a 3.1 lb notebook. But that's just me - the one who bought the only Z1 ever made with 384GB RAID0 SSDs. :D

    I concur - with Louche, much as I hate to admit that :D. I doubt more than 10% of Z owners would notice the slightly faster cpu going from a dual core SB i5 to SB i7, even to quad core. As for battery life, I'm told that the i7 cpu (SB and beyond) actually uses less power than the i5 because its faster clock and larger cache processes more quickly and it spends more time returned to the very low power (< 10 watts) idle state of these cpus. The noticeable changes to cpu power (and energy efficiency) are not so much within the series (Core i5/i7/quad) but between series (Arrandale i5 to SB i5 to IB i5. Here we're talking 30-75% speed increases and battery life changes per series whereas within the same cpu series, the most difference you see in benchmarks (which overstate what the user experiences due to other bottlenecks) is 5-15%. AFAIK. Can someone who really knows their stuff weigh in?

    Proving, once again, that there are many ways (and they don't cost so much anymore) to skin the cat - without going outside even the 2.5lb Z2 box!
     
  28. dariusnaz

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    Put me in the 384gb Z1 club as well ; )

    It was a pain to go down to less storage on the Z2 (256gb) but the 64gb card helps... plus at only $70 it was alot more cost effective.

    Obv the read/write is slower but for movies/music it hardly matters.
     
  29. lovelaptops

    lovelaptops MY FRIENDS CALL ME JEFF!

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    Darn, now I'll have to change my sig (called it, with a touch of exaggeration, "the only 384GB SSD on the planet," lol.

    Yes, I agree that if you supplement a 256GB internal SSD with up to 192 GB from each of the memory card slots, you can get all the utility you need because streaming audio an video clearly does not need the bandwidth that launching programs and reading/writing large files really benefits by. I've been working on my wife's HP DM3 Core i5-460, 8GB RAM, 500GB 7200 rpm HDD (so, practically the same processor and RAM) and boy does it take what seems to be ages for things to load, copy, etc. For streaming, I don't think you'd even notice is, though someone suggested 1080p may be taxed by the low throughput. From all I'm hearing in this very useful thread, I may well make the next storage expansion I need use a flash card, which seems to be in a price freefall if speed limited. How great is this world, really?!!