Z2: Can't Rotate External Monitors???

Is this option hidden or what??? I can't figure out how to rotate the screens when using the PMD!!! ???

 

^If I remember correctly while looking at the INF for the Z2 I did see some settings that had to do with disabling rotation. I thought at the time it was kind of odd since it is assumed the PMD is going to be plugged into a monitor.

I don't have the Z2 drivers in front of me at the moment and internet is slow here so thats all I've got for now.

EDIT: I also don't have a Z2 so it might have it somewhere.

 

I spoke with their tech support and they say it simply doesn't have it.

I've had it for less than 5 hours and back it's going.

 

The Intel HD Drivers don't have it?

If you don't need the PMD consider un-installing the Sony crapware and get the latest HD3000 drivers.

 

Control Panel > Display > Adjust Resolution

 

To CC: No

To duffyanneal: Not there!!!

I just can't believe how badly they crippled this thing.

I can't even run my DisplayLink USB adapters: the monitor just isn't seen.

I am one angry camper.

Unbelievable.

 

It is probably just an entry in the registry that has to be modified. Once rotation is allowed, utilities like iRotate will work.

Take a look at this:
(Solved) - Rotating Windows display How-To Geek Forums

Remember to backup your registry first.

 

I gave up on the native stuff, iRotate, etc.

I got my USB->DVI adapters working and they appear to be working. I'll give those a try for a while before I throw in the towel. The rest of the Z is working fine ... so far.

 

It is a safety feature - it is a good thing that it is disabled by default. Forcing rotation on a display device that doesn't support it (e.g. some CRT monitors and TVs) can cause catastrophic failure. Enable it only if you are sure your display can handle it.

This is not so much of a problem with flat panel displays - the embedded display controller takes care of all this safety stuff. On the old CRT monitors, I have actually had a deflection yoke overheat and melt the former on which it was wound.

 

I wonder how many ppl use Z2 and CRT at the same time...
Moreover, the Z1 has it enabled by default.

Can't find the "RotateFlag" in registry as well...

 

I've honestly can't remember the last machine I had that couldn't rotate. And it wouldn't be so bad if they actually made it optional with big warnings.

No, I'm afraid it's just bad code.

 

It has been a while since I tried the stock drivers, but I don't remember rotation being enabled on the Z1 by default. I was delighted when I finally got Andrew08's drivers with special features 1 and 2 in which rotation was enabled.

 

Well I was using Z117GG and I can't remember updating any drivers so I believe "rotation" is enabled out-of-the-box for at least my Z1.

Any ideas how to enable it for Z2...? (w/o updating with drivers not from Sony as I use PMD...)

 

Rotation was requested for the Z1. Ill try to find the setting for you for the Z2. As I said previous there were a few areas where I noticed rotation disabled settings in my Z2 driver modding attempts. ATI seems to have locked stuff down in a different way than Nvidia does so enabling features has been a bit more difficult. Sony also seems to like to disable a lot of native features. Took quite a while to figure out that the switching scheme used on the VGN model Vaio Z was Nvidias "Hybrid Graphics" and not some Sony based proprietary thing.

 

Thanks a lot!
the inability to rotate monitors on Z2 is definitely driving me crazy! makes me want to keep my Z1...

 

Lets see..

Code:

HKR,, FID10284_DisableRotation,             %REG_DWORD%,    1

was the setting I noticed under the AMD section.

under Intel

Code:

HKR,,   Display1_IndependentRotation,    %REG_DWORD%,    0x00
HKR,,   Display1_EnableIndependentRotation,    %REG_DWORD%,    0x00
HKR,,   Display1_EnableIDDC_WA,    	       %REG_DWORD%,    0x00
HKR,,   RotationSPLCase,    %REG_DWORD%,    0x00

Beyond that I will have to look into it.

Note: If you want to fudge with these settings without reinstalling the drivers using a modified INF open REGEDIT and search for them. Standard Warning: Fudging around with your registry and adjusting or deleting the wrong settings can screw up your system so if you don't feel comfortable with it don't do it.

Most display settings are usually found in:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0000
or
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Class\{4D36E968-E325-11CE-BFC1-08002BE10318}\0001
(One is usually ATI and the other Intel)

They might also be located at:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\services\amdkmdag

EDIT: Note that these settings may not be the only ones preventing rotation. There may be settings needed to enable that specific area of the ATI control panel too.

 

Hi Nautis,

I have found that once rotation is enabled in the registry, iRotate suddenly starts working. That might be easier than figuring out how to enable the relevant section of the ATi control panel. Just a thought.

 

I haven't had a laptop that I can remember (ThinkPad, HP, SZ, Z1, etc.) that didn't have rotation out of the box. It was simply something that would not have occurred to me would be a problem. It would be akin to questioning whether they supported the color red or or not!

At the moment I have managed to make my USB->DVI converters work, which was the way I used my Z1. If I don't run into any issues I suppose I'll continue on.

I've got to get my development stuff (SqlServer, VS2010, etc) loaded and running over the next couple of days in order to cement my decision.

 

Great to hear anytimer! Where was it located and what did you switch it to?
I can post up a registry file for it if I know the location that way it will be a simple click-n-import for people looking for that option.

As for finding the relevant ATI section probably dont need to but I am always up for a challenge.

EDIT: Just realized you are probably talking about for the Z1.

 

That was it! Fantastic!

I still don't have any rotations in the AMD Catalyst CP, but it's back in the standard Windows CP and that's good enough.

Sony ought to give you a commission since you just saved them having to eat a $3K machine!


EDIT:
Changing the value for the AMD from 1 to 0 worked.

However, the settings for the Intel portion are all currently 0, which doesn't work. Should they all be set to 1?

 

Yes, which was why I was giving general suggestions only.

It is also why I'm advocating that everyone put their hardware details in their signatures.

rmcx: glad you got it working. This forum is great.

 

Glad that worked for you. I almost had to do a double take when I saw it and thought of the scenarios in which multiple monitors are used. Seems like a pretty big omission.

I try to do as much as I can for the community and help where I can. Its unfortunate that it takes people like us that are willing to tinker to let Sonys product live up to its potential.

Changing those values to 1 should do it for Intel too AFAIK.

Yeah I kind of got ahead of myself typing then I realized after I read it back who I was dealing with. Confirming the Z1 in your signature was part of it.

Excited about a lot of what is on the horizon mixed with a lack of sleep is causing me all kinds of issues lately.

 

Still unable to get the Intel rotation working, though.

At the moment I have:

Display1_EnableRotation = 0
Display1_EnableIndependentRotation = 0
Display1_EnableIDDC_WA = 3 (always gets reset to this)
RotationSPLCase = 0

Also, it turns out that the Intel controller is at HKLM\...\0002, so I tried putting in the equivalent Display2_... keys, but no luck there either.

 

Also, bringing in the newest Catalyst CP now shows rotations.

 

Although relevant to a number of threads, that statement is the best sngle summation of the Vaio line.

On the plus side, Vaio owners (and Sony) are fortunate that there are people like yourself, ZoinksS2k, ComputerCowboy, and the other tweakers.

 

Also, I tried hooking up one of my 24" (1920x1200) monitors via the VGA port off of the PMD and it was awful. Ripple/interference virtually on every mouse motion.

Any settings to try to clean this up???

Thx

 

The VGA cable can have a lot to do with this. I got this cable and it works better than any other VGA cable I've ever used.

 

I'll give it a try. Thx.

 

So rotation is confirmed to be working with the newest Catalyst CP??
Any registry edits needed to make it happen?

 

No, the other way around. I did the registry edits which enabled rotation in the Win7 Control Panel Display applet, and then I loaded a new version of Catalyst and then rotation was there.

Since then I've rebuilt my system once or twice and just applied the registry patches and not bothered with the new Catalyst. I just use the Control Panel applet.

 

I have 2 external displays (Dell 2007FP) connected via VGA on the laptop and the PMD. I am trying to rotate both monitors, but nothing happends when i use the above mentioned reg hacks;

Display1_EnableRotation = 0 (changed this to 0)
Display1_EnableIndependentRotation = 0 (I don't have this at all?)
Display1_EnableIDDC_WA = 3 (I don't have this at all?)
RotationSPLCase = 0 (already set to 0?)

The location is different than the ones mentioned, i have it a "HLM/System/CurrentControlSet/services/intelkmd/".

Any thoughs on what i am doing wrong or missing here?

 

Nevermind the above post - apprantly i am not able to use the search funcktion in the reg editor correctly

But - i have now found all the mentioned entries and changed their value. rebooted ... and now i can rotate the display connected to the PMD/AMD card. But the display hooked up to the VGA on the Laptop/Intel i can not rotate - the option is not there in the Windows Display properties, but it is there for the 2 displays connected to the PMD/ATI. Any thoughs on what i am missing?

 

I found that I couldn't rotate the monitors attached to the Intel adapter (I.e. on the Z2 itself) and settled for only rotating the ones on the PMD.

 

Hmm - not comferting news that. I am using the HDMI port on the PMD for another screen with audio :-/