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    merom & santa rosa

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by catherine, Jun 10, 2006.

  1. catherine

    catherine Notebook Consultant

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    how can you tell if your notebook is upgradeable to merom and santa rosa?
     
    catherine, Jun 10, 2006
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  2. deedeeman

    deedeeman Notebook Deity

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    try baking your notebook in the oven......if it roasts and becomes crisp and golden....then it is compatiable with memorem.....but if it blows up or something.......welll...........................then you might just have to buy a new one ;)



    ok lets get to the facts now :)
    if you have the current Core Duo, then you will be able to upgrade to Core2 Duo wave one. other than that.....im not sure...


    PS: remember...oven must be set to 500C
     
    deedeeman, Jun 10, 2006
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  3. catherine

    catherine Notebook Consultant

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    *places notebook in the oven on 500c...*

    erm, it's all melted now... does that mean i can't use this anymore?
     
    catherine, Jun 10, 2006
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  4. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    santa rosa is a chipset, you cannot upgrade your chipset thats like trying to upgrade your video card, you can upgrade to merom if you have a yonah laptop and your manufacturer releases a bios update
     
    matt_h1, Jun 10, 2006
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  5. deedeeman

    deedeeman Notebook Deity

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    Agreed with Matt_h1.

    by the way? how dose baked Pentuim M with a go7400 for topping sound for dinner?
     
    deedeeman, Jun 10, 2006
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    _radditz_ Fallen to the Sith...

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    think sony will release the update though? Im sure they would want us to buy another overpriced laptop.
     
    _radditz_, Jun 10, 2006
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  7. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    As much as I would love the update given sony's customer support I very much doubt they will. Maybe someone will work out how to hack the bios or something.
     
    matt_h1, Jun 10, 2006
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  8. rhcpcrony

    rhcpcrony NBR President

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    well theres a thread flying around about a guy that installed a core 2 duo without a bios update to an sz, maybe its the same for the rest of the Sony's?
     
    rhcpcrony, Jun 10, 2006
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    coucoujojo Notebook Guru

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    I think the santa rosa will be release same time as Vista: about april 2007
     
    coucoujojo, Jun 10, 2006
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  10. rhcpcrony

    rhcpcrony NBR President

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    vista should get released earlier than that, about jan or feb
     
    rhcpcrony, Jun 10, 2006
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  11. matt_h1

    matt_h1 Notebook Deity NBR Reviewer

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    the first batch of meroms will work in yonah mobo's but the secomd gen probally wont. With that other thread the user was running into serious overheating problems
     
    matt_h1, Jun 10, 2006
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    miner Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    One can upgrade from the Core Duo to Merom since both utilize the same chipsets and have the same 667MHz FSB. Intel will however upgrade their current mobile platform sometime in 2007 with new chipsets supporting 800MHz FSB and wireless(probably include support for 802.11n). The Meroms for this platform will also be capable of supporting 800MHz FSB and so cannot be used in current Napa platform(although they might run at 667MHz, but thats just a waste of a new cpu). Further as it has been explained before, chipsets cannot be replaced without replacing the motherboard. By the time Santa Rosa is revealed Sony & other manufacturers as well would probably have updated their lineups and wont offer any upgrade paths.
     
    miner, Jun 10, 2006
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  13. Aero

    Aero PC/Mac...Whatever works! NBR Reviewer

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    Well I suppose my notebook's already outdated then atleast I can say I owned the first model of SZ (SZ120) ever released ;)
     
    Aero, Jun 10, 2006
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  14. catherine

    catherine Notebook Consultant

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    alright, thanks for the reply. another question:

    will there be a noticeable gain in performance when using the santa rosa with vista or would merom suffice?
     
    catherine, Jun 12, 2006
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  15. Weshy

    Weshy Notebook Enthusiast

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    Santa should provide a general performance boost. One feature that looks particularly promising codenamed Robson (it is a part of Santa Rosa). Robson seems to add a "storage cache" that will store commonly used files, meaning less hdd seeking so faster boot times, greater general performance and longer battery life. In one test used by intel, opening and executing macros in Ms Office took 3.3 secs with Robson whereas the same platform without it took 15 secs.

    Of course it will also introduce Wimax and other new gadgets (e.g. new intel graphics core) as well as an 800mhz (and possibly 1066mhz) fsb which will show an initially small speed improvement.

    Merom on its own is meant to provide a handy performance boost above and beyond the current dual core. It's probable that the merom core will provde more of a performance boost than Santa Rosa will. I think it's fantastic then that the SZ can be upgraded to accomodate these new processors.

    One piece of advice I would give though is this: Don't play the waiting game! There will always be something new and fantastic "just around the corner". So if you need/want a laptop now, then get it. But if you can wait, then wait until you can't wait any loner or when there is some sort of special that you're happy with. Don't just wait because there is something around the corner, unless it's literally 2-3 weeks away. Because with that view you'll be forever waiting.

    Weshy.
     
    Weshy, Jun 12, 2006
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  16. Ib14132302

    Ib14132302 Notebook Geek

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    good advice, that's why my trusty 5 years old dell inspron 8100 is still going... and I will keep it going until May next year...
     
    Ib14132302, Jun 12, 2006
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