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    my TZ boot time - is this normal?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by tomato123, Aug 11, 2008.

  1. tomato123

    tomato123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hello, I own a Vaio TZ290 and did a semi-clean install and tweaked my vista services based on the speedyvista website. With 1.2GH CPU and 2G ram, i timed my bootup process with the battery setting at "vaio optimized" and here are my times:

    1 min 45 sec until desktop showed up
    3 min 24 sec when all the processes were competed (i think) and firefox fully loaded the opening google page

    Is this a normal boot time for a relatively optimized/tweaked TZ with vista? Or are there ways i might be able to make it any faster?
     
  2. Jparity

    Jparity Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm not familiar with the TZ, but to me that sounds pretty slow, especially after being optimized/tweaked...

    It takes almost 2 minutes to load up all your processes? How many processes do you have running in your background?

    Also, you can reduce your boot time by getting 4 gigs of ram. And they are pretty darn cheap now on newegg.
     
  3. tomato123

    tomato123 Notebook Enthusiast

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    after everything starts up, i have 55 processes running with cpu usage fluctuating between 2-5% when idle. i also added avg antivirus and comodo firewall so does that contribute to the slow bootup?
     
  4. FenderP

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    The TZ does not support more than 2GB of RAM.

    If it's a 4200rpm drive (i.e. you only have the 1.8" non-SSD drive or the 5400 2nd drive), that's contributing to your slowness.

    Adding anything to your processes will slow it down. AVG may be doing things like scanning memory or HDD.
     
  5. Jparity

    Jparity Notebook Evangelist

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    Yes, antivirus and firewall slow down your system very noticeably.
     
  6. Jparity

    Jparity Notebook Evangelist

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    Oh wow I didn't know it can't support up to 4 gb of ram, not even the newer models? I guess it's really time for Sony to refresh their lineups (excluding Z, SR, FW).

    Yes, the 4200rpm drive would be very slow.
     
  7. FenderP

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    Yeah, you should do some homework before answering lol (EDIT: and I am just kidding with you ...)

    The TZ has a single RAM slot open to add memory and nothing is on the motherboard.

    The G has one slot as well, but some memory on the motherboard. It's a limitation of the design that it can't support more than 2GB. Putting a 2GB DIMM won't give it 3GB.

    Also remember that the TZ and G are ultraportables where they're not meant to necessarily need 4GB of RAM (although I could use it in my G for all the stuff I do). Different class of machine - performance is secondary to portability.
     
  8. Jparity

    Jparity Notebook Evangelist

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    True, that's so last gen tho. I think Sony will correct this in their Sep/Oct update.

    Actually the TZ doesn't seem that tiny anymore when you compare it with the Z (there's a really good picture in the Z forum). I don't know why, but the 13.1 in Z just looks soooo much smaller than other 13.3 in laptops.
     
  9. FenderP

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    THis is why I'm waiting to see what Sony cooks up for the ULV refreshes ... I don't like the TZ's screen (too small for its resolution IMO), and if there isn't a suitable G replacement, I'll get a Z at some point.

    But if they can create a new ultraportable that is sub-2lbs like the G which rocks, sign me up!
     
  10. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Have you defragged and organized the boot files since the clean install? See my signature line below for a link to info about the process, and why it doesn't automatically get done on some folks machines. It can really help with boot times.

    Gary
     
  11. FenderP

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    If it's SSD, you dont' need to defrag.
     
  12. Phil

    Phil Retired

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    If it was SSD he was not booting in 1 min 45 sec ;)
     
  13. FenderP

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    Heh, true. :)
     
  14. ProPedder Kustoms

    ProPedder Kustoms Notebook Enthusiast

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    Strange boot time. I semi-clean installed Vista Home Premium, ran through most of the steps of the NotebookReview Forums Vista Optimization guide, and I am booting up in 1 min 3 seconds. I have 70 processes running when it's all done. I am using NOD32 as my antivirius [which is incredibly lightweight and powerful].

    Are you sure you don't have some crazy programs like Norton and AOL booting up in your StartUp programs [see "msconfig"]???
     
  15. jiffry1017

    jiffry1017 Notebook Geek

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    is your boot defrag supposed to take up ~9 gigs of memory after its completed?
     
  16. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I am not sure what you are asking me. The boot defrag just defragments the boot files and rearranges them in the order that they are used during the boot process.

    My batch file just invokes the Vista built in defrag function with a parameter to do just the boot files.

    If you are asking if it consumes disk space, no it does not.

    Gary
     
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    If you have System Restore/Shadow Copy turned on, your computer could have created a System Restore point of the pre-defrag state, which COULD possibly take up 9 GB.
     
  18. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    That is possible, but to be honest I don't remember that happening when I did it last. But I can't say for sure one way or the other.

    Gary