new Vaio Z nvidia 330 GPU temp 84c ok?

seems to max out at 84c under heavy wow dalaran stuff

ok?

using GPU-Z app monitor

 

84c isn't something I've never seen. If it reaches 90c then stop doing whatever is causing it to get that high and get a cooling pad. 84c won't hurt anything, but you might want to go ahead and get a cooling pad just to be comfortable.

 

I've seen it plenty of times on laptops, but never felt comfortable with it.
Hopefully you can get away with a cooling pad or something (maybe RMA if other Z owners have alot lower temps), for the 330m that just sounds too hot.

 

Tested BFBC2 today and the GPU levelled out at 80c - dunno how much a cooling pad would help...

 

My 9300 on the older Z peaked at 97'C once during use. This was a year ago when I made it pro-render a CAD model for 2 hours straight.

It cooled down to the low 80s and stayed there for the entire day. It was a summers day so that is kinda understandable I guess.

Though the Z isn't really designed for heavy gaming. Maybe OCCASIONAL, but not heavy and extended periods. I would advise against it... If games are so crucial, I would let the Z sleep every hour or so to keep her cool. We are talking about a 330m with an i5 / i7 CPU running in tandem; you wonder how the Z's petite body holds out such stresses without suffering some internal degradation...

 

I would be concerned if you consistently hit 85° Celsius or higher. It's only going to get worse with the warmer weather coming.

If there's anything else running in the background (that makes use of the GPU) it might be a good idea to disable it while gaming.

Might also be revealing to try disabling (one by one) the in-game effects and comparing how much demand each puts on your GPU. Post processing, anti-aliasing, shadows, draw distance are ones to look at.

Replacing the stock thermal past with something more efficient might be an option as well.

 

Anymore information abouting these high temps?

 

The temp is completely fine for this notebook size and this GPU power.

 

I will be getting my Z today and was hoping to overclock it like I do my CW26FX (which does fine at 625 Core 1375 Shader 1090 Mem). The CW never gets too hot even with these settings running Resident Evil 5's benchmark overnight. It sounds like I won't be able to get the same performance out of the Z. Disappointing but understandable given the smaller chassis.

 

my maximum gpu temp on new z when play starcraft2 is 96c !

 

Jesus, these high GPU temps scare me... What are you ambient temps?

 

Wow! Is that overclocked? If so what are the settings?

 

I think that's stock.

 

I ran some games for a while on my New Z with the 330m and I got max GPU temps of 83C with stock settings... I'm assuming that this temp is pretty common for the graphics card. On a side note, the keyboard doesn't get hot.

 

What's suprising is that the surrounds on the laptop are relatively cool to the touch. The Nvidia 330 GPU does idle in the 40's with nothing open...

 

Well, that's something what I was expecting more from the new Z...in fact I thought it'll go over 100C. My (previous) Z is usually on max around 85C, when I overclock it a bit it goes easily over 90C

 

Graphics chips are designed to run much hotter their your traditional CPU and the temps typically scare people... do not worry....

NVidia specs typically show GPu's capable of running 120 Max true core temp and 95 mobo sensor the i5-520m and i7-620m both are 105 internal and 77 mobo sensor approved as well.

The difference is usually refered to as TJunction and TCase readings. hopefully that GPU program is taking it straight from the GPU itself.

 

I've got my 330M on my CW overclocked and temperatures still never go beyond 65C. It might be a bit different for the Z series because of the built and size.

 

Good point.

The gPU is rated from the manufacturer to run that hot. Running inside the operating temperatures should be acceptable.

Then again, others have been burned by the 8600m gt heat issues so I understand the concern.

 

It doesn't matter the maximum operating temps... anything over 100c is usually death zones for graphics cards. And if they run at 90c+ normally I can tell you right now that the lifespan of the card will be GREATLY diminished. The 8600mGT died mostly as a result of the wrong type of soldering material being used to attach the package to the board resulting in the solder material melting and cracking under the chip package killing the GPU. The 8600mGT would heat up considerably before totally failing, but did not initially run at 90c+. At the temperatures I've seen so far, this may be the reason Sony decided not to put metal palmrests and such on the new Z-series. If the internals have that kind of potential to heat up under stock conditions and clocks, then Sony did the right thing in not making anything that the consumer would touch (even when sitting on a desk) in metal (aluminum or otherwise). I suggest to everyone reading this that if you have a new Z and plan on gaming for any stretch of time, GET A COOLER! Other models such as the new CW that have the GT330m can handle the temperatures because it's a little more chunky and has room for a beefier cooling system.

 

I ran graphics-demanding games on my new Z, and the temperature is never above 84 degrees. Despite that, the keyboard is merely warm right above the exhaust area while the rest stays completely cool. What an awesome laptop. I still can't believe I can play such games smoothly in a laptop that is frequently being called ultraportable.

 

Are the vents under the laptop set as intakes or exhausts? Anyone know? =D

 

Should be intakes on the bottom and the hot air exit vent on the side.

 

Show me the data that suggests a video card manufactured and rated to 120 degrees would be damaged by running at 90 degrees.

This fear is passed around like it is fact but it's mostly a lack of understanding of what heat does to a device.

Heat does two things....

• increase resistance resulting in electrical noise
• thermal stress resulting in the elastic nature of the materials used

The first affects it's stability resulting in crashes while it's operating at that temp which will return to normal operation when the temp is lowered.

The second will physically damage the unit but time does not factor into the equation thermal elasticity of the materials involved and the temp these materials reach.

If we trust the numbers, there is zero reason the heat would affect the video card's longevity.

 

Im running on a CW2, with the same GPU, overclocked to 660/1452/1090, and for example playing WoW for some hours, also beeing in Dalaran duting peak time, BC2, and Mass Effect 2, I never go over 63c.
84c ,even if its overclocked, seems really hight to me.
I cant imagine that the Z series are so much worse cooled then the CW2 series. But seeing that more people are above the 80s, they are less better cooled.

 

That's because the vaio cw has a bigger case compared to the z so it's components will run cooler. It's pretty amazing the engineers even managed to cram a core i7 and 330m into the z without it overheating.

 

Try pretty much any failure of a notebook that failed from heat. You'll notice that even those didn't experience temperatures in excess of 110-115c. 120c is almost 250°F. That's HOT. Like "melting plastic" hot. The GPU may be physically ok, but it might be the culprit of other internal failures. Actually, and I should have said this in my first post I guess, is that most modern notebooks built with NVIDIA GPU cores of the GT200 series cores or ANY of the ATI notebooks can handle heat pretty well. The 8600mGT fiasco hit the OEM's HARD, and since then they've focused a lot on cooling. And the soldering issue is purely in the past and is no longer an issue.

This, people should read.

I for one do NOT trust maximum operating temps, even if the information is passed from NVIDIA or not. Depending on the shape and density of the chipset, including the video chipset, some component that is sitting but a centimeter from the GPU core, is most likely NOT running at the CPU temp, but closer to the GPU temp. All in all, for the general good of everything (including the GPU), it's not good to run in excess of 100c.

 

It still shouldnt be that big difference. I assume he is running on stock speed, which is pretty much a descent underclock from Sonys side, and running on the highest possible stable overclock, and the difference is over 20c. Now, even if the casing is much smaller on the Z, it shouldnt be that huge difference.

 

A smaller chassis means the fan in the vaio z is most likely quite smaller than the one found in the vaio cw and combined with the smaller chassis can account for the higher gpu load temps. Someone correct me if i'm wrong, but the core i3 used in the vaio cw may put out less heat compared to the i5 or i7 used in the vaio z also.

 

The CW models with the GT330 are 99.9% i5. And the i7 in the Z is a dual core with a 35w TDP, instead of a 720qm+. But thats sound reasoning A notebook that size with those specs, unless everything in it is 22nm, is going to run HOT when under stress.

 

The preconfigured GT 330M models here in Sweden have all i3, and not i5.

 

Hmm.. well then I modify my statement. All US models that have GT330m are 99.9% i5.