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    which processor?

    Discussion in 'VAIO / Sony' started by AntonisCy, Jul 27, 2008.

  1. AntonisCy

    AntonisCy Notebook Guru

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    is better on a laptop?

    T9400 or P8400?
     
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    Define "better." ;)
     
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    The pros and cons are obvious. But the choice is yours. :)
     
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    what are the pros and cons of each then :)

    Which one can handle more pressure... Dont care about power consumption or price
     
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    What kind of applications do you intend on running?

    If you're doing a lot of video editing, encoding/decoding or maths applications the T9400 will perform a bit better.

    P8400 will stay cooler though and will do common tasks and gaming just as quick.
     
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    Intel® P8400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.26GHz w/ 3MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 25 watt

    ^^ more power saving, cheaper - slower, smaller cache

    vs.

    Intel® T9400 45nm "Montevina" Core™2 Duo 2.53GHz w/ 6MB L2 On-die cache - 1066MHz FSB 35 watt

    ^^ faster, larger cache - more power consuming, more expensive
     
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    which one would you recommend for daily internet browsing, frequent movie viewing and occasionally game playing.

    im really hoping for the P8400
     
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    What games are we talking about here ? :)
     
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    upcoming fifa 09, maybe gta 4 when it comes out on pc... CoD5 on lower settings?
     
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    then get the one in the middle P8600. Just worried about CoD5, may need the T9400 to give the HD3650 a boost.
     
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    only model that comes with the 3650 is the T9400
     
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    then if your seriously about getting good gaming quality get that. 3650 infinitely better than intel graphics card for gaming and good hd quality movies.
     
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    Which laptop are we talking about here?

    Anyways, I'm pretty sure you'll be able to run COD5 on medium or low settings. COD5 uses the same engine as COD4 (treyarch always copies IWs work). And I can run COD4 on my old ass rig (which is a desktop, 2x512mb of memory, 4200+X2 socket 939, and X800XL) on medium setting at 1280x1024.
     
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    I think its the premium version in Europe. in the US you replace the 3650 with the 3470 and you have that model.
     
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    I think the bottleneck will be the GPU, not the CPU.

    P8400 will be more than enough for HD3650.

    BenQ ships a laptop with 8600M GT powered by L7500. Which is enough for that GPU.
     
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    yes im talking about the FW11ZU
     
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    Has anyone measured the real-world differences in battery life between a 25W CPU and a 35W one? Would they be important or negligible?
     
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    Actually, I did some reading up and I would ignore what i wrote above.

    I do not know what CPU you need for optimal gaming with HD3650.
     
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    3650 is not available with the P8400 anyway
     
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    Um, I would just about say that the GPU is the bottleneck PhilFlow. Honestly, people making desktop gaming rigs don't even need better than a 2.6ghz core 2 duo to run crazy graphics cards like dual HD4870s in crossfire without bottlenecking. CPU's have very little effect on gaming performance. The ONLY time CPUs have will effect gaming is if you turn everything to its lowest setting and run at lowest resolution, in which case, the game is in pure speed mode, and the CPU will have use (but seriously, in pure speed mode, you get like 500+ Fps anyways regardless of what CPU you have).

    BOttom Line:
    GPUs bottleneck CPUs for almost every situation.
     
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    That's what I thought too Ed, untill I saw these results:

    World in Conflict.
    Acer with T9400 and 9600M GT 44 fps
    Acer with P8600 and 9600M GT 40 fps
    http://www.notebookjournal.de/tests/613/2
     
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    Perhaps that is an anomoly? There are lots of variables when testing FPS, especially the settings that it was on (which shouldn't be that high considering how demanding world in conflict is). The lower the settings, the more effect the CPU has on the FPS.
     
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