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    0x88982F50 error adding tags under Vista

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by ScuderiaConchiglia, Jul 24, 2008.

  1. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    If I right click on a photo file and go to properties and select the "Details" tab and attempt to add a tag to the photo I sometimes get an "0x88982F50" error. (See attachment.)

    Once this error occurs I cannot edit any tags unless I reboot. It is a very odd intermittent but once seen, persistent error.

    I have found references to other folks seeing it but no definitive solutions. Anyone else experiencing it?

    Gary
     

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  2. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Bump.

    It is now December and this bug still seems to be there. Is anyone else geting this error? I still see references to it if I do a Google search. But no one seems to have a fix for it.

    Gary
     
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    vinumsv MobileFreak™

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    for more inforation about the error

    http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms735425.aspx
     
  4. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    Vinumsv,

    Thanks,

    That info from Steve is VERY old. I was aware of that. The "info" on the Microsoft site is of no help either. I am a MSCP and knew about that list of error codes too.

    I am still trying to find out if other folks are seeing the same sort of issue.

    Gary
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Just as a total shot in the dark, is caching of thumbnails enabled or not?
     
  6. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Not sure. Where does one check?

    Gary
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I believe that it's one of the options that can be set with a tick-box under the folder properties dialogue box (at least in XP).
     
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    No such option under Vista.

    Thanks though,

    Gary
     
  10. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Well that sheds light on caching of thumbnails, but not sure if or how that has a bearing on the issue of not being able to set tags. I really don't want to loose that caching if that is not going to fix the tag issue.

    Gary
     
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    Shyster1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    The reason I asked is that the thumbnail caching might be resulting in corrupted files that cannot be updated - I have thumbnail caching disabled on my XP systems and still get thumbnails to show up just fine when I set the folder for that view type - basically, without caching, Explorer has to redo the thumbnail images each time, which can add a second or two to display time if there are a lot of image files in the folder in question, but makes sure that Explorer isn't trying to play around with corrupted files.
     
  12. ScuderiaConchiglia

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    Again, I don't see a direct link to thumbnails in any way. The issue is with the tags. The tags are stored as metadata on the file not part of any sort of thumbnail. I'm not seeing the connection.

    Gary
     
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    I don't know for sure, but I poked around a bit concerning the way _Vista stores thumbnails, and I have a suspicion that _Vista not only writes the user-defined tags to the image file itself, but also stores them along with the thumbnail image in the thumbnailcache_*.db file.

    If that is the case, then a corrupted thumbnail cache would also prevent you from writing any user-defined properties to the file because the cached thumbnail could not be simultaneously updated.

    EDIT: Actually, now that I think about it, since you can search image files based on user-defined tags, those tags must be indexed someplace other than just within the image file itself - I do not think you'd get a very efficient search function if it had to open and read each and every image file every time you wanted to search for images with a particular user-defined tag, particularly since you can tag and search image files over a network.

    To my mind, that strengthens the circumstantial case for concluding that user-defined tags are also stored someplace in one of the thumbnail-related cache databases - a suspect that immediately comes to mind is thumbnailcache_idx.db, which is, I believe, the database index file for the thumbnail caching system. Putting the user-defined tags in there would make it much easier to discover all of the individual files that are "tagged" with a particular tag and to easily get a set of filename/paths to each related image file.

    I would turn off thumbnail caching, clear the thumbnail cache data-files, and then see if that restores your ability to tag.