1 Year To Go for Windows 7

Until the greatest Windows OS will no longer receive any more security updates. January 14, 2020 is fast approaching and as we already know that Microsoft is planning to charge Windows 7 Pro & Enterprise users until 2023 if they want to continue to receive security updates, This sucks for over 40% of PC users worldwide that are still running Windows 7



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It's been... however many years... that 7 users have known this day was coming. That they haven't moved to 10 or another OS both wouldn't surprise me and also makes me shake my head..

 

Makes me shake my head that after using windows 7, users willfully chose to move to windows 10. I would use 7 for much longer than when security patches ended if it was still supported on the hardware side. I vurp (vomit burp) everytime I see a windows beta 10 desktop.


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IMO, a 'disinfected' 8.1 + Classic Shell becomes an excellent 7 Mk2.
And many years of support.

 

Personally have been doing fine in 10 so far, then again I’m not willing to pay for extra support for 7. For the people who do plan on continuing to use 7 (especially businesses), they’ve had long enough to plan for what to do, be it continue and pay or move on to an alternate OS.

 

I will probably continue using 7 even after the support ends...

 

Same here, there's nothing wrong with it and a updated AV and setting proper level permissions and regular backups means it has a lot of life left in it yet.

 

Biggest concern for me is upgrading to a new hardware... I will be upgrading my rig once CP2077 drops, and as far as I heard, MS dropped Windows 7 support for the new hardware... Assholes...

 

Good riddance.

 

Amen to the brotha! Kool-aid slurping morons that have no clue what a true OS is supposed to be, can continue with there Jim Jones intake of paradisaical promises!

 

Agreed!.

At least we still have control of our systems especially with Windows Update unlike with Win10 but sadly new hardware will only support Win10 and it'll get more difficult to find drivers for it if you install Win 7 or Win 8.1 on it. When i finally buy a new system i will have no choice but to keep Win10 on it just to reduce the amount of work hunting down Win7/8.1 drivers and just follow all the tweaks and guides posted on here on NBR to make it a less ****ty OS. Tbh im not looking forward to that.

 

As long as I can activate Windows 7, either the right way or another way, (whatever it takes to get the job done,) I will continue using it. The updates beyond what we have now are not needed. I only use Simplix Update Packs anyhow. I have been running with automatic updates disabled and have not allowed updates directly from Micro$lop servers for probably 5 or 6 years, maybe 7. I have lost track... a long time ago.

I won't stop using Windows 7 until software I want to use simply won't run under Windows 7 any more and drivers are no longer available. Windows 10 will not be my operating system of choice until there are no other choices available from Micro$lop. Actually, it still won't be at that point... it will simply be the solo take it or leave it option, and nothing more. Windoze OS X is better than Wympdose 8.X but that is essentially saying nothing.

 

Windows 8 and 10 should have never come, just service packs for Windows 7.

 

Amen to that.

 

I'll continue using Windows 7 on my M18x, but for newer devices it seems some are stuck with 10 or 8.1 due to things like no driver support or UEFI (No CSM in BIOS).

In that case if no one wants windows 10 I recommend trying out Windows 8.1 with startisback ($3) or classic shell (free). I've been using startisback since Windows 8 and I can say it is truly the best at bringing back the taskbar. It even has the 7 style bar/menu.

8.1 is supported until 2023 and even works on systems stuck in UEFI only mode.

Just an alternative. You definitely have more control in 8.1 compared to 10 and it's definitely more stable imo.

 

I think 8.1 do not have Coffe Lake IGP driver either, or?

 

I keep Windows 7 on an older machine for supporting some legacy games. Other than that, Windows 10 works fine. With just a few necessary tweaks, it runs quite well.

Windows 8, now that was the abomination of Windows for desktop users.

 

Has MS released the details on how one can pay for extended-extended Win7 support (post Jan 2020)? Or rather, how will thry dole-out the updates to Enterprise/extended paying customers? Im thinking, if it's feasible, we could all chip-in $$ to crowd fund Simplix -in hopes he could continue releasing Update7R2 packs (post 2020).

 

TBH it wont be updates that kill off Windows 7, it will be the lack of drivers from OEM's. I could care less about the continued update support coming from Microslop.

 

My plan, which I've shared a number of times, is to keep systems on each OS (Vista, W7, W8.1) as long as possible - VM's otherwise - and to stay away from Windows 10 as long as possible.

Giving MS time to get tired with screwing it up - and spin out the official support timers on Vista, W7, W8.1 and keep using them until vendors stop supporting them for things I really can't do with out - so far nothing.

Steam dropped support on Vista Jan 1, 2019, I did all the installs and updates, then took it offline, and it's still working.

For about a year before that some Steam game updates stopped running on Vista, so I restored backup and block auto-updating of games, and some games have work-arounds to support new versions on Vista.

Chrome also dropped Vista support a while ago and then added incompatible app libs and as extensions become incompatible I side load the last version available as needed - so far no show stoppers.

So far that's all that is a problem with Vista, and I still have a machine used daily and no problems running everything I need to run across a wide usage - even on 10 year old AMD hardware.

Windows 7 / 8.1 can be run similarly with progressive loss of support from vendors, but on older hardware it doesn't matter. And all my old hardware (AMD, Intel, Nvidia) was top of the range at the time, so it's still punching at and above the performance of average hardware today.

Windows 10, Microsoft / Intel / AMD have sandbagged a line in the sand blocking new hardware, but for much of it there are work arounds.

For me W10 has already been needed for work - from before release - even though I specialize in Linux, UNIX, Solaris, so for work it can't be avoided, but it's not quite the same spy-ware ridden version and patch updates are blocked and staged for controlled release, and only needed to support new hardware without workarounds - needed for support requirements.

So far I don't see a reason, at least for me, to run W10 at home even if I am missing out on some things the main thing I am happy to miss out on are the instabilities introduced on a regular and random basis.

When I am off work I don't want to waste time doing sysadmin work on my own hardware, so it's a real win for me to completely avoid Windows 10 shenanigans - it's very relaxing.

 

Great point Raiderman. Although win7 driver incompatibility may spur some cottage, hacked-driver, type industry to reconfig chipset drivers or whatnot for win7 (wishful thinking perhaps). In the meantime I'll keep trying to better my Linux chops -no way will I go to win10, even w/ tools like O & O shutup & their like. MS's win10 EULA agreement is utter nonsense, as we all know. It's like MS and their win10 OS is from a company based in China, or former USSR. People in the US are blindly giving away their privacy rights daily... all my friends and colleagues abroad are like "wtf are you guys doing in america w/ your apathy towards online Privacy?". Sad.

 

For me, its the lack of complete control over the software that is running on MY hardware. With Windows 7 I can take ownership of just about any file or folder in the entire OS. Windows 10 has digitally signed many files, which once tampered with, breaks the OS. The version of crap that I am running, is probably the best of them all, being enterprise LTSC. It is still an unfinished, awkward to use,and a hot mess of sh*t. Metro apps that are hard coded, with the mix of "pure" windows apps makes redundancy the norm. Does the cortana and win 10 mobile failures mean that they can finally lose the god awful tiles, and metro bs? The notification center is kind of a somewhat nice idea, but action center of windows 7 could have been tweaked to do the same thing.
There is absolutely nothing it does better, or more efficient than windows 7. It actually feels slower in many aspects, just using the OS

 

Thats my fear of using Windows 10, Its like we have no choice but to accept all the issues with the OS with no say in the matter, the forced Windows updates and the amount telemetry included in the OS is already bad enough. It doesnt matter how may people complain about it Microsoft will just do the opposite since they dont listen to customer feedback. Sadly Windows 10 will soon be only supported OS and users and especially businesses will have no choice but to upgrade or risk their systems of being hacked/infected with malware.

Sadly majority of people in this world dont care about privacy. Companies like Google and Apple already knows everything about you. VPNs can only do so much but not everything you want them to do

 

Yup. +1 on Raiderman's noting Win7 stability. Id forgotten to mention that in my previous post. I worked with win10 for only a few months back in 2015, couldn't stand its instability (esp. back then) and fastly switched all my machines back to win7. Now w/ all the Processor patches entering the mix, even more instability & guesswork. I work w/ win10 when I help people out w/ their systems, but still can't see much advantage to win10 (unless you're a gamer, which I'm not). Funny though -so many people I know using win10 like it at first, but eventually complain after a few months "my system seems to be running so slow" (same folks who never look at their Services or Task Manager, general bloat).
Privacy is huge to me, in principle, not b/c I need to be Secret Squirrel. I've requested device profiles from a handful of old email providers, and web service providers. It's F*ing disgusting how much data is logged anymore. (and I'm careful about it). VPNs, Spoofing MAC addresses, Pi-Holes, DNS configs, Tor (if you have the patience for it), are becoming a must. I'm always shocked when people say "I don't care, I have nothing to hide" (obv. not the point in preserving privacy, civil liberties, freedom of speech,et). Sorry if I just ranted! Give it away give it away give it away now

 

Once Windows becomes a service, is when I will no longer use it as my main OS. We have lost control of technology, as we have embraced it so much, that is has become nothing more than an advertising platform. Its a way for Microsoft, google, and apple to sell you goods and services, and nothing more. Productivity, and creativeness are just a side effect of previous versions of the said software. Bottom line is they dont care now how productive you can be, as long as they can push ads for products to your desktop or your phone.

 

Great post, so true. Bottom line is all MS cares about is their Corporate Ledger's bottom line. My hope is that MS's blatant disregard & lack of respect for their users best interests results in the Windows OS market share diminishing to a pittance. Perhaps they would then change their tune, albeit likely too late. My hunch is as more and more of the market becomes Linux OS savvy, and further realizing the appeal of open-source, Linux distros subsequent growth will make for increasingly user-friendly, diverse, productive OS's that makes Windows & OS X pale by comparison.

 

This is kinda cool (didnt catch it when we were rapping about MS/Win7End last month, but saw this today -from 01/16/19). I had a laptop ripped-off while at a cafe in BCN -here's to hoping it's running a Linux distro
https://www.zdnet.com/article/windo...ce-beats-microsoft-to-win-barcelonas-backing/

 

Good, hopefully afterwards no more telementry, malware craps comes either.

 

I have not been able to install windows 7 on my threadripper machine since they updated the agesa code/bios (it didnt state anything about not being able to install windows 7). I have a asus zenith extreme board and a 1950x at 4ghz all cores 128gb ram at 2933mhz and a 2080 ti (manually OCed 2070mhz core and 8350mhz memory stable). I get to where windows finishes installing and then it freezes at the windows loading windows screen. It does login but it stays in the black screen with the windows windows on it. anybody know how to get passed that. ive tried everything in the bios @Mr. Fox and i also tried all different ways of install from the dvd to usb 2.0 and 3.0 gpt and ntfs thru rufus

 

Oh man, I can empathize!! Did everything imaginable. I gave up on that machine (was helping a friend). Need to look into this more. See this post, same thing. Lets rap about this if you have time -it blew my mind as everything and anything I tried wound-up in a 'boot loop'. I think I used an old UpdatePack7R2 from Dec 2017 (I save them on a flash) and then turned off Updates until I can get over there again.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/posts/10852606/

*Edit. My colleague's machine was a Factory win10 installed HP 750-114. USB 3.0 drivers had to be mounted on iso. HP support Manual said it was win7 eligible. Hmm, I did update its BIOS to its most recent, March 2018+/-(going from memory -too lazy to look up specs). Also HP drivers/support page didnt say anything about win7 ineligibility. Try reformatting (long) your Install Drive (I think I had that problem too -reformatted, worked after). My problem seemed Simplix specific, but maybe BIOS?

 

That sounds like a UEFI video issue. Reinstall Windows 7 and spam the F5 key until you see the option to enable EMS support. Or, if you have a CSM menu in the BIOS, change video to Legacy. If those things do not work, I am not sure what else to suggest. They may have the BIOS too screwed up to recover.