200+ processes running

What's the standard amount of processes running when idle? i seem to hit over 200-250 processes with just google chrome open.

 

haha! well that depends on how many tabs u got open? iirc chrome outsources each tab into a separate process so as not to crash the entire program when one tab misbehaves.

 

Ensure that RUn in background in Chrome's advanced settings is disabled or unchecked to gain several GB of RAM and heavy cut down in existing process count.

 

today it was about 2-5 tabs.

 

hm ok so thats unlikely then. how long ago was your last fresh windows install? and how much software u got installed on your system? have u cleaned out your autostart with smth like ccleaner or via the task manager?

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Should I take a look via Anydesk if your AV doesn't flag me as a Malware or PUP?

 

i'm really trying to figure out if these excessive processes are causing hitching/stutter in games.

 

Sometimes they cause hitches. But, main cause is pile up of unused standby memory list bug in Windows 10. Try ISLC from wagnard.

 

After reboot, close autostarting NordVPN and Spotify, and waiting 10 minutes just to make some processes settle after boot I get this.


When opening Opera with 25 tabs it bumps up to 190 processes, so one per tab.

 

Isn't that too high for some reason?

 

I have over 200 processes too. Multiple browsers with numerous tabs and lots'a background tasks, though.

 

Not for W10 since 1703 when there's enough RAM, in older versions I had about half as much.

There's a good explanation for this though:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/application-management/svchost-service-refactoring

 

Aside from system services, it seems 200 process after launching a browser is a bit too much!

 

I agree, but it all depends on how much is running in the background, a factory preloaded Windows installation can easily add 50 processes or more.

This is before and after I reinstalled W10 on my brothers new laptop:

 

Maybe it have something to do with this tweak?... I'm not sure though..

https://winaero.com/blog/set-split-threshold-svchost-windows-10/

 

155-160 processes means a bloated system. 200 is awful.

 

Yup, it's a tweak for changing the setting in the link I posted, thanks.

This is what happened when I changed it on my laptop.

Default settings Windows 1809: 166 processes
Pre 1703 settings: 113 processes
When I used Windows 8.1: about 85 processes

This is hardly a problem for the OP though, maybe it's a preloaded Windows installation with extra bloatware?

 

That's one thing but he has couple of streaming apps, VPNs, Steam/Origin etc which will easily surpass 200 processes

That disk usage and process count is similar to mine.

 

It changed after 1803, or was it 1709. Before, each servicehost.exe process would combine multiple services together. Now each service (mostly) gets its own svchost.exe.

It was changed so that trouble shooting and isolating one specific misbehaving service would be much easier. Apart from the extra process count and slightly more RAM used, there should be no differences. My C0%/Package C8% residency hasn't changed so the new system isn't wasting any CPU cycles. Though that being said, back in 2015 when Windows 10 was released, it used about 1.1GB of Ram. Now it seems to use 2.0GB on startup. Back in Windows 8.1 I could get the process count down to 30 or so. But now I find myself using more features like Onedrive, your phone, search etc that really depend on services that I had previously disabled. It really annoys me.

 

On my tweaked XP, only 18 process, on win 7 it was 30 process and in Win 10 160 process.

 

LOL that's literally what the link I posted says, except it was starting with 1703.

It also says that RAM usage may go up with 500 MB, but for me it's 100 MB.

 

I know that feeling! Don't have it anymore though.

I remember the days of using Nlite and NTlite and similar, tweaking everything from W2000 to some of the W10 releases, but now I won't bother anymore. With maybe ten new ISO's coming every year (6 ISO's for 1809 alone) they get outdated so fast. I just disable/uninstall/block features after installing, that's enough for me.
I haven't been hunting services à la Black Viper for years, it's pointless to me, I only occasionally change the setting some specific one.

Minimize RAM usage, installing size, and disabling/uninstalling/blocking features and apps is really great to do if you have NOTHING ELSE TO DO. I would know, I got my W7 installation down to 1.3 GB, I'm an idiot haha.

 

A clean Win10 1903 boot for me with Throttle Stop, Process Lasso, Logitech, Nord, Search Everything, Waves Maxx audio driver BS, and Java updater / miscellaneous yields around 119 processes iirc. I'm still in the process of weeding out excess services since taking the 1903 update though. I discovered in the most annoying way that "Connected Devices Platform" can't be disabled without breaking all of my Windows 10 UWP apps (ie: the new Win10 Photo Viewer).

 

Disabling that service will disable Task View on all desktop incl. virtual desktops.

 

Thanks @Vasudev that is good to know. I turned it back on for the sake of having the default Win10 Photo Viewer even though I plan to try some 3rd party apps to fill that role in the future. I have around 250 gigs of personal pics and videos I have accumulated over the years that I have been working on de-duplicating, thinning out, and organizing so I can actually create some projects (home videos, collages, etc) using all of my media rather than just letting it all sit doing nothing.

 

Okay, I finally finished weeding services with no obvious loss in functionality. My C7 rates went up quite a bit for both core (98% - 99+%) and package (85+%). My final process count is less than 100. The lowest process count I've seen was 91. I'm happy with the results. My laptop is ready for school now and will sip battery juice accordingly. (Not to mention performance is up and temps are down.) Now if only I could get back all the time and sanity it costs me to go through this process every time there is a major update. -_-

 

None say you have to jump on the new and Fancy Crippled once it's thrown out from the Moron HQ

 

I went straight from 1803 to 1903 mainly for the stock dark theme functionality to supplement my custom dark theme I like to run since my custom dark theme causes readability issues with some applications. Now I can simply jump between themes with a click of the mouse when necessary and not have to deal with being blinded by file explorer windows at night. I figured I could probably use security updates too after not updating for a year or so.