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    3 GB RAM with Vista? Settings?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by MaXimus, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. MaXimus

    MaXimus Notebook Deity

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    I just upgrded from 2 GB to 3 GB RAM. Do i need to do any extra settingsin Vista to fully make use of m RAM or imporve performance?
     
  2. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    There are no special settings that I know of. Vista will use any spare RAM for its pre-fetch cache.

    You might want to review your virtual memory size. Sensibly, this should be less since the physical RAM is more (I'm using 3000MB which is quite generous). I always use a fixed size for the virtual memory to avoid it getting fragmented. You can use the SysInternals PageDefrag to defrag the existing swap file.

    John
     
  3. Polsta

    Polsta Notebook Evangelist

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    how i do this sysinternals defrag thing ?
     
  4. John Ratsey

    John Ratsey Moderately inquisitive Super Moderator

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    Start by downloading it from here.
    then run it. You have a choice of whether to defrag at the next boot or at every boot.

    **** To be honest, I don't think I have tried this with Vista since I have Diskeeper which has a similar boot-time defrag option. The program doesn't claim to be compatible with Vista but it runs before Vista loads. *****

    John
     
  5. Polsta

    Polsta Notebook Evangelist

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    ok thanks

    does it slow boot times and what does it do exactly in terms of benefit ?

    all i use is windows defrager
     
  6. MaXimus

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    So what would you recommend me to set the pagefile to d00d?

    I have a 30 GB partition on C: with 8 GB Free

    and a D: Partition with 47 GB free
     
  7. MaXimus

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    Wow! I got 38 3DMarks more in 3DMark 05!!!! woo hoo!! 100 USD wasted there! :(
     
  8. JCMS

    JCMS Notebook Prophet

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    3dmark05 was made for 512-1GB of RAM... It's like complaining that UT2003 doesn't run better on a 8800GTX than a 8600GTS....

    Try Crysis, you'll see a bigger performance. You might get 150pts more in 3dmark06

    Oh and, you paid $100 to upgrade from 2 to 3GB?
     
  9. theZoid

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    No....let Vista manage your Virtual Memory. Static page files are a thing of the past.
     
  10. MaXimus

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    ok i'll try 3dmark06 and ill tell u what i get bro.

    and yes I paid $80 US Dollars to be precise to buy this 2 GB SODIMM of PC@ 5300 DDR2 RAM. y? the brand is called Ram Bo :rolleyes: but hey......it works fine.


    PS: The Rambo sodimm that I got is much faster than my previous 1 GB RAM so I guess they all switched to the same speed.
     
  11. Polsta

    Polsta Notebook Evangelist

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    i wouldnt worry about the 3d mark score, i didnt get much of an increase when i went from 3 to 2 gb ram, its in game performance thats whats counts, and all other progs that need ram and ability to do more things at once and quicker, and justt he fact that theres more ram to be called upon if needed !
     
  12. Meemat

    Meemat Notebook Evangelist

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    Honestly, I think your GPU (GO 7400) is what's slowing your system down the most in the benchmarks and stuff.

    Other than that, it looks like a pretty good setup.
     
  13. MaXimus

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    mmm ok, lemme try Need For Speed Carbon then, it used to always hang now and then accessing data from the hard disk.
     
  14. MaXimus

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    Yeah :(

    When I bought this notebook, I didn't do my review at home and check what to look for. I just went out there, chose the mowst expensive laptop at the time (had a new credit card) and bought it. I saw it had an nvidia chipset inside, so I thought it should be the best.

    Didn't know that the 7400 Go is such a POS :(
     
  15. orev

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    I concur with this recommendation.
     
  16. MaXimus

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    right. that's what ill set it to then.
     
  17. ScuderiaConchiglia

    ScuderiaConchiglia NBR Vaio Team Curmudgeon

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    I didn't think the Sysinternals PageFile Defrag worked for Vista???

    Gary
     
  18. -Amadeus Excello-

    -Amadeus Excello- Notebook Evangelist

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    Could you please explain why static page files are not an issue under Vista?
     
  19. theZoid

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    Well, for one thing Vista will estimate the size needed based on ram and it will pretty much stay that way, unless something significant changes. It's not like the old Windows 3.1 daze where the damned things were constantly shrinking and expanding all the time, therefore slower. Disk space isn't at a premium like it used to be.

    There are other reasons such as a static page file would only benefit if the files were read in sequential order, which they won't be. I believe Orev who posted this thread can explain better :)

    Man, with that mugshot of yours, I'm scared to death you'll disagree with me LOL.
     
  20. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    I saw a way to work around the Vista issues on the Sysinternals Forum, but for such a critical operation, it seemed a little too hackish. Definitely not something I would use on my Vista system.

    The idea of pagefiles has been around for a long time, so it's not a new thing. It's been around long enough for OS developers to be able to refine how they are managed by the system. That, and the pressure for systems to be more automatic has resulted in systems that can manage themselves in this regard. There's no reason to spend time worrying about it anymore.
     
  21. diggy

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    Well, just for fun I installed Vista thru Bootcamp on my iMac 2.4Ghz, 4GB RAM system. Vista recognizes 2.98GB of RAM, and I didnt do anything as far as particular settings. I followed the Tweaks guide (as should be the norm with any Vista install) and this thing is ROCKIN'.
     
  22. MaXimus

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    Ah thanks for warning ame about that I wasw gonna buy another 2 GB stick soon!
     
  23. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    For more than 3GB support, you need 2 things:
    - 64 bit operating system
    - 64 bit chipset (like Santa Rosa)

    So if you have the chipset, you just need the 64bit version of Vista.
     
  24. MaXimus

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    Oh mine is the merom so I guess I can't even run a 64 bit OS?
     
  25. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    Santa Rosa is the chipset, not the processor. It is also known as the GM965 chipset or PM965 chipset.
     
  26. MaXimus

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    umm...do u have a clue what does my SZ484N use?
     
  27. orev

    orev Notebook Virtuoso

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    All I'm going to do is search Google or Sony's web site to get that information, which is something you can do also.