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    32bit--->64bit Info

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by spradhan01, Nov 8, 2009.

  1. spradhan01

    spradhan01 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I am planning to use 64 bit as I have been using 32 bit from a long time. I also wanted to use my 1gb ram which was just wasted because of limitations. I was wondering one thing in mind if there will be any performance increase while gaming with 64 bit over 32 bit? Or it does not matter?

    Thanks
     
  2. DarkSilver

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    It does matter if you're using 4GB of RAM.
    64bit OS will fully utilize all the 4GB of RAM. However, your GPU/VGA will still eat up plenty of your RAM as usual(both 32bit and 64bit same).
    If you have more than 4GB RAM, it is VITAL to have 64bit OSes. If you have 4GB of RAM, it is recommended too. 3GB of RAM or lower should stay with 32bit OSes. Yet, I found 64bit OSes have higher benchmarking.
    My opinion is that 64bit OSes work better than 32bit OSes.
     
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    Gaming? Probably little to no advantage.
     
  4. spradhan01

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    So beside extra 1 gb of ram, what else are the advantages over 32 bit then?
     
  5. d1rtdevil

    d1rtdevil Notebook Geek

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    everything else.

    i find my Win 7 to run much more smoother than the 32bit install i did a while back. probably because the OS uses the extra resources found under 64bit CPUs
     
  6. KonstantinDK

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    I'd say it's not usually good for gaming. I had problems with drivers. had unstable FPS etc.
     
  7. spradhan01

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    So, should I stick with 32 bit or go with 64 one?
     
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    If you can find all the drivers for 64bit go for it. As for ram you barely notice the difference, why ? Even though you "gain" 700~ram (assuming you have 4gb) applications will use more ram so at the end the gain from ram is negligible.

    Dont really expect to see a lot of difference except if the program is written for 64bit which again the difference isnt that big.
     
  9. spradhan01

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    I just did a fresh install of Win 7 Ultimate 32 bit. After installing all the drivers when I try to do System rating, I get the following error attached below.
    Any help!
     

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    d1rtdevil Notebook Geek

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    never seen that. i still dont get why you went with 32bit. if your CPU supports 64bit instructions why not use them? its like having a car with a huge turbo but never race.

    my.50 cents.
     
  11. JCMS

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    Windows 7 wasn't even supposed to be released in 32bits. Using 32bits is going against technology and slows down the advance. Other than compatibility, there's no reason to go 32bits anymore
     
  12. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    - Win7 64-bit allows you to have an increase performance on your 32-bit application mainly because of 64-bit drivers and having a big fat software like an operating System (Windows) in 64-bit really helps.

    - In game it won't help much. You may gain a few more FPS. What will really help, is game made in 64-bit. They are very few now, but as more and more users which to a 64-bit OS (and believe me, it's getting there really fast, thanks to Win7) 64-bit games will appear.

    - 64-bit Codec. When installing 64-bit codecs (or use Windows 7 built-in DVD, XviD and other 64-bit codec) such as Shark007 (doesn't interfere with Windows built-in codecs, it just adds some) and use Windows Media Player 12 64-bit. You could save battery life if you are on a laptop, and you enjoy a reduce CPU utilization. If you are using a low power CPU, this will benefit greatly.
     
  13. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Dell doesn't support Windows 7 for the XPS series laptop (except for the Stutio XPS) So you must do a greater effort in finding drivers. The Windows experience index failed probably due a lack of important drivers. Go to manufacture of each internet component website and see for the appropriate drivers.
     
  14. spradhan01

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    I have all latest drivers installed. Infact before reinstalling, it was fine as I was having some trojan problems so I resinstalled it. Now here is a new problem which was not before. Any other idea to fix this?
     
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    I did tried to install 64 bit from my external hdd but it gave some sort of error so I installed 32 bit. I might upgrade it from here.
     
  16. spradhan01

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    Update: When I tried to run 64 bit setup, it gave me following error.
     

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    You can't upgrade 32-bit to 64-bit.
     
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    true, and you have to do a clean install. again.
     
  19. spradhan01

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    Ahhh... I really dont want to do that again.
    Maybe will use 32 bit for awhile like months and then reinstall..
    I really hate reinstalling.
     
  20. GoodBytes

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    Well, you know what they say... practice makes perfect :p
     
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    Its been like a habit for me to reinstall every month. Now, one more month to go. Also, my OS is clean and new for tomorrow(i.e COD MW2). :D
     
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    I used to reinstall Windows a lot (pre-Vista). My reinstalls take less time than they used to because 1) I have documented which programs and drivers to install, and 2) I have downloaded all of the programs and drivers to a spare hard drive. After the install process brings me to the desktop, I just plug in my extra hard drive and install everything on my list. I do not have to poke around ASUS's slow servers, hunt for the correct file version, sort out mislabeled drivers, etc.

    Jeremy
     
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    So you mean you let PC do automatic drivers installations for you?
    If yes then how?
     
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    Start windows Update.

    Then select the drivers it lists. Restart.
     
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    For normal office applications (especially Outlook 2007), does it help in performance if you go 64-bit?
     
  26. Melody

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    Probably not anything significant no. But honestly, 64bit doesn't really seem to cost more than 32bit(it's a free "upgrade" at most places I checked) and unless a machine you want has 32bit pre-installed or unless you're using old applications which might have compatibility issues, I don't see why not to go to 64bit.
     
  27. GoodBytes

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    Office 2010 will be in 64-bit (32-bit version will be available.. but from my understanding Sharepoint server (host machine), will be in 64-bit only). I doubt that Office takes advantage of 64-bit unless you work with big Excel calculation or a lot of calculation on large data sheets, or lots of graph, but even then. In any case, it's still cool that it will be 64-bit. The ONLY visible advantage that I saw is that the 64-bit version does load a little faster than the 32-bit version of Office 2010 software (Word, Excel, etc..). However, this is the Technical Preview (stable - alpha) version which I got invited to... so A LOT could change until it's first beta and final release.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback. 64-bit all the way for me then. :)
     
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    I had the exact same problem, it's caused by Kaspersky.

    To fix it I used the following guide from Kaspersky support:

    http://support.kaspersky.com/kis2010/error?page=1&qid=208280937
     
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    Ok will give a shot!
    Thanks
     
  31. davepermen

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    i'm going to make everybody cry.. my win7 32bit runs faster and more smooth than if i install 64bit on the same system.. :)

    64bit for <=4gb systems is overrated anyways. >4gb it's rather obvious :)
     
  32. GoodBytes

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    I am sure it's just you, or you configuration (installed software) is different from both computers.
     
  33. davepermen

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    it's like that even while i install win7 from usb stick :) there are technical reasons why this can happen. it's not like 64bit is magically so much better. i know both architectures including all their registers and instructions (well, i did knew back in athlon 64 days), and i know how much gain there is to be expected AT MAX.
     
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    In most x86 applications, an x64 OS is going to be theoretically slower. Thanks to Microsoft, the difference isn't noticeable, significant or even measurable in some cases.
     
  35. Pitabred

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    If you're seeing a performance issue with 32bit software, that may be the case. But with 64bit software, it shouldn't be any slower and in many cases will be faster simply because there are more general purpose registers for the compilers to use.
     
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    Yep part of the AMD64 architecture is the new registers besides expanding the register size...