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    4GB for Windows Vista Home Premium?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by AtParker, Jun 26, 2007.

  1. AtParker

    AtParker Notebook Consultant

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    I was reading some where that you need 4GB for one of the forms of Vista... I'm not sure if I misread though, can anyone help me out?
     
  2. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    you definitely do not NEED 4gb for any version of vista.

    except vista ultimate home premium business plus.

    just kidding.

    1gb will run, 2gb will serve you well, 4gb might be helpful if you are doing complex engineering simulations or intensive professional video editing and the like.

    good luck.
     
  3. Bog

    Bog Losing it...

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    From what I've heard, 32-bit operating systems have difficulty addressing 4GB of memory; some people have claimed that their computers only recognized 3GB. Personally I think 4GB of RAM is crazy, especially for a laptop. Are you trying to locate ET with SETI or something? ;)
     
  4. AtParker

    AtParker Notebook Consultant

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    Lol no I just saw someone else post something about one of the versions running best with 64 bit so I was just wondering. Thx for the help guys.
     
  5. masterchef341

    masterchef341 The guy from The Notebook

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    oh oh oh i got it.

    that guy must have been saying that for you to run 64 bit windows- you need 4 gigs of ram.

    he is right in a sense. while you dont need 4 gigs of ram to run 64 bit windows, the 32 bit version has wider support at the moment, so unless you have 4 gigs of ram and want to utilize all of it, you SHOULD use the 32 bit version of vista, which is limited to about 3 gigs.

    make sense? i hope that helps.
     
  6. CodeMonkeyX

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    The reason I am thinking of getting 4GB of ram is so that I can run Linux, and run a Virtual Machine on it. That way I can have 2GB for the Linux OS and 2GB's for the Virtual OS. :p Atleast that's the plan.
     
  7. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    1GB is fine, but I really recommend 2GB for smooth sailing.
     
  8. Charles P. Jefferies

    Charles P. Jefferies Lead Moderator Super Moderator

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    32-bit Vista can only "see" 3.24GB.

    2GB is yesterday's 1GB - it's the new mainstream. 1GB is the old 512MB. For Vista it is best to have 2GB of RAM for the smoothest performance as noted.

    4GB may sound like a lot now . . . but 128MB was also a lot in 1995. ;) There's no harm in adding more RAM. Right now 4GB is actually very cheap. Check the RAM DEALS thread.
     
  9. gusto5

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    I wouldnt agree that 1GB is fine. If you have vista and other medium-level apps running, it will start getting sluggish.
     
  10. LIVEFRMNYC

    LIVEFRMNYC Blah Blah Blah!!!

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    I guess it also depends on your System and what you have installed etc: etc:

    The processor counts too. Dual core and 2.0GHZ processor with 1GB will do fine, But a 1.2GHZ or lower will most likely be sluggish on 1GB Ram.

    But YES, 1GB on Vista is borderline .....especially when multitasking.
     
  11. R4000

    R4000 Notebook Virtuoso

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    I'm running 3GB in Home Premium right now, and I'm only using 23% of it according to Task Manager.
     
  12. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    2GB in notebook running Vista Home Premium. Task Manager shows 35% Physical Memory.

    This is with Firefox V2 open on several tabs and Task Manager running.
     
  13. the caveman

    the caveman Notebook Consultant

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    i had my gateway laptop with vista hp, i had 800mb or 35% constantly used by vista for itself wich is absolutely ridiculuos , i know theres a way to hack things to disable all bogus processes ,but cmon
     
  14. Overclocker

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    When I used Vista, I hovered constantly between 800mb and 1 gig of memory used for uTorrent, Firefox, iTunes, Google Talk, Zonealarm, and maybe a couple of windows open. It was lame. I had 2 gigs to burn, but it was still irritating. Now, doing *more* on XP - switch GTalk for Skype, add several windows and tabs and such, and I'm only burning 530 mb. That's about 50% of Vista. Obviously, I get better battery life, and programs open more quickly. There's no question - even if you have the RAM, which I do (2gb), pound for pound, you'll still receive better performance on XP than you will on Vista. It's simply a question of whether you want your resources feeding your OS or feeding your programs. I chose the latter.
     
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    im runninng on a dell xps m1730 wit 4 gig of ram... n yea vista 32bit reads only 3... is there a way of utilizing the entire 4 gigs? i use my laptop for hi end 3d modelling an animation... running photoshop and 3dmax at the same time drains ram... can sum help me?
     
  17. metril

    metril Notebook Deity

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    Vista uses more of your RAM because of Prefetch and Superfetch. Besides, the OS automatically reduces its own usage when a program needs it. Vista Ultimate hovers around 40% usage with Spybot Resident shield, direct console, realtek audio, turtle beach console, avast AV, object dock, synccenter, power 4 gear, windows sidebar, logitech console, and touhpad console running in the background. I can open 30 IE windows (not tabs), acrobat reader, windows media center, windows media player, guildwars, warcraft 3 TFT, and burn a DVD. My RAM usage then peaks to 80% and my CPU usage peaks to around %90 on each core.

    This is on an ASUS G1S with 2.2 Ghz 4mb L2, 2 gigs ram, 200GB 7200 RPM hard drive, and an 8600M GT.

    XP comes to a crawl when I open up everything I can open up on Vista. It took me a while to actually feel a slowdown in Vista, but XP starts crying the moment I minimize any game I'm playing and takes ages to return to the desktop.
     
  18. System64

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    You do not need 4GB to run Home Premium unless you're doing many memory intensive tasks. Currently, 2GB is the sweet spot.
     
  19. Lite

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    vista.. 2gb borderline??? you guys kidding vista runs perfectly well on 1gb of ram... it idles at using just under 400mb on 1gb of ram: thats 600mb left for your apps... i dont know of any applications that can possible use 600mb of ram unreal tornament 3 used 450MB on max settings on my laptop ie is using 35 right now msn is using 3.3mb speedfan 2.7mb nhc 12mb ati tray tools 7mb utorrent 1.2mb avast totalling about 25mb n all my little extras... although ive got 2gb of ram im just saaying that 1gb for vista is enough... 512 will really strugle paging everything 764mb will run alright but when games are opend they will push everything else over to be pages and 1gb if enough to do everything you need... you guys are sounding obsessive claiming you must have 2gb... it would be for the more advanced user or for the novelty of it.

    i use a dual boot vista and xp (vista ultimate-got a lisence free from neighbour)
    xp ive optimised alot it takes 26 secconds to boot from when i press power button and uses around 190mb ram with ati tray all firewalls avast speeffan utorrent and msn loaded :) oh and NHC...
    vista takes more like 43 secconds to boot and load everything from when i press the power button still good considering the no of startup apps i run and it will idle usage of around 535 mb of ram...with all background apps running... do remember that i belive vista detects your total amount of ram and then allocates itself a certain amount... the more ram you have to more vista will use.
     
  20. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    abe2mir install Vista x64.
     
  21. abe2mir

    abe2mir Notebook Enthusiast

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    u reckon i shud install x64? wht bout the apps? shudnt i get the 64bit versions of em as well? last i heard, 64 has lotta compatibility probs
     
  22. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    Not necessarily. Not true.
    x64 only needs x64 drivers and 64 bit versions of firewalls & antiviruses.
     
  23. AKAJohnDoe

    AKAJohnDoe Mime with Tourette's

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    Then there's this.
     
  24. Sykotic

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    My desktop (dual core 2.8/1.5gigs ram/80 gig sata) runs Vista Ult. (32 Bit) great. I dont run alot of programs at once, blame it on the fact that I am used to using older computers. But this setup has more than suited my needs.
     
  25. mrXniick

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    how big of an effect does the processor have on general performance in vista?

    Would a 1.7 ghz pentium M with 2gb run it well?
     
  26. Fade To Black

    Fade To Black The Bad Ass

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    AKAJohnDoe that doesn't apply to new laptop chipsets + x64 OS.