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    AOL 9.1 do work in Windows 7?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by t30power, Aug 31, 2009.

  1. t30power

    t30power Notebook Deity

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    I installed AOL 9.1 to act as a proxy in some sites I'm not allowed because I live outside the US, but I've found that the majority of times it doesn't reconnect you if you close the program.
    Has anyone tested AOL 9.1 on 7?
     
  2. hypdotspec

    hypdotspec Notebook Evangelist

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    AOL still exists?

    wow...
     
  3. booboo12

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    Yes, and in fact they still push out beta versions of their products. They haven't kicked the bucket yet.

    OP try running the latest version of the AOL client known as 9.5-you can get it by joining AOL's beta testing community here- http://beta.aol.com/projects.php?project=aol95r
     
  4. RangerXML

    RangerXML Army of None [TRH]

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    You dare taint the sanctity of Windows 7 with AOL? j/k

    AOL will not die as long as large parts of the country still only have dial up.
     
  5. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    Wow. I never thought someone would actually want to install AOL, but I see your reasoning. While I don’t know if it’ll work on Windows 7, you might want to consider the far more popular, and open source, Tor ( http://www.torproject.org).
     
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    Darth Bane Dark Lord of the Sith

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    We used to run AOL when we had our dial up internet.......... never again!
     
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    Heys! im on AOL, and im not on dial up either!

    Well actually there called carphone warehouse now :p haha.
     
  8. booboo12

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    Tis true, the AOL software is available to everyone, free. You don't need to have dial-up to use it. (but seriously why would you use that abomination with broadband...maybe for the parental controls functionality but that's about it-it's bloated, uses embedded IE as the browser, is kinda buggy...spare me please lol)
     
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    fiveo Notebook Consultant

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    AOL = EVIL. Oh, and good luck trying to uninstall all the hidden remnants it leaves on your system.
     
  10. Need For Steve

    Need For Steve Notebook Guru

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    AOL 9.1 works perfectly well in Win 7. i used it for a year while i ran the betas anc RC before i ~finally~ got DSL about a couple weeks ago. as soon as the DSL activated i attempted to uninstall AOL several times, but the built-in uninstaller "couldn't be found" (convenient, right :rolleyes: ), so i eventually just re-installed Vista Basic, and having a much faster and steady internet connection has even restored my faith in Vista...


    death to AOL
     
  11. t30power

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    Specifically the error AOL 9.1 throws at me is AC-3000 0x84100101, which supposedly have to do with Firewall or corrupted AOL files, I have already turned off the firewall but haven't work yet, sometimes it connect but the majority that error pops up.
    The only reason AOL is because it gives me a US IP, actually I don't use their browser.
    I will post a screenshot with the error later, i'm now using XP.

    Do Tor changes your IP?
     
  12. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    Yes. If I were being paid to do so, I still wouldn’t install AOL on my machine.
     
  13. t30power

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    [​IMG]

    Here the error AOL 9.1 throws at me. I'm installing right now beta 9.5.

    Again the reasoning using AOL is because I tend to download files from popular storage sites such as Rapidshare. I have a AOL script that everytime a file is downloaded from those sites, AOL would shutdown and restart giving a new IP and continue downloading a new file without waiting.
    In Windows XP this works flawlessly.

    Yikes, found another reason not to like W7, Cinema Craft Encoder 2.70 does not work.
     
  14. t30power

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    Actually, nope AOL 9.5 neither works:
    [​IMG]

    Does it sucks Windows 7 or AOL?
    I wanted to migrate to Windows 7 but I've found at least 2 programs not compatible with Windows 7.
     
  15. BinkNR

    BinkNR Knock off all that evil

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    I think it’s quite clear what the consensus here is. If you choose to run poorly written software, don’t blame Microsoft.
     
  16. t30power

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    But why there's so much 'difference' between XP and Vista in terms of the way the OS handles making a TCP/IP to a certain URL? Supposedly AOL 9.1 is compatible with Vista but again Windows 7 is not that different than Vista, so why this connectivity issues?

    Regardless of AOL, I'm thinking not moving just now, I reecode from time to time my favourite movies as backups and CCE does not work on Windows 7. I had high hopes with this OS, I don't think that using CCE on Windows XP Mode on 7 the performance will be the same as running it natively on the machine. Bummer
     
  17. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    Since Vista, Microsoft reprogrammed and redesign many aspect of it's Windows core, fixing an incredible (6-years in the making) security holes and bug fixes. In result, a 8 year old kid can't make a massive malware or virus which spreads faster than any real life virus. XP was like a wall with holes everywhere, where they plaster everywhere.. soo much layer of plaster that they are cracks and small holes everywhere. A new kernel was desperately needed, and that was goal of Vista.. not speed, not features (Microsoft was nice to have what we had), not optimization, just a new core.

    Is CCE some codec pack? If so, then you need Vista/Win7 CODEC PACK, and NOT XP! You have to forget XP. It's long gone. Vista/Win7 doesn't even work the same. Check out Shark007 codec pack (available in both 32-bit and 64-bit). It plays anything, without screwing up your system, or Windows build-in codecs which are truly superb.
    http://shark007.net/win7codecs.html

    Not to be rude, or offensive.. I just want to wake you up. If you are not willing to accept that you used crap and don't want to seek for better alternative, then you will be stuck in your cave with them and XP, then complain how come nothing works with XP soon after. I was like you before, when Vista came out. Heh I can tell you the first thing I did when I tried Vista 64-bit was doing all XP "optimization" and all that crap, and ended up with BSOD's everywhere. After, being forced to develop my own software (I am still a student at university, but it is important for me to know how to program very well with the latest Windows) on Vista (also my system was a freaking project to get XP to install as XP doesn't support PCI-E, or SATA), I decided to cut the crap, and do like everyone said. I said bye to many software/games, and stupid optimization" tricks. I just installed and let it go. Vista 64-bit ran PERFECTLY, and I trully enjoyed this OS. Worth every penny. I jump on the first public beta of Win7, and I love my computer even more. In fact, XP is so bad, I help no one anymore who uses XP, and that is final. XP is way to problematic to solve issues.

    Moreover, Vista made me learn A LOT about programming, and now I can produce software that works perfectly under any Windows.
     
  18. t30power

    t30power Notebook Deity

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    Interesting point of view GoodBytes.
    Well I'm not that old I just turned out 25 and I think I have this thing where people refuse to upgrade to something new, afraid of change maybe??
    I use a modified version of XP that runs very fast, shutdown in less than 10 seconds and every software is responsive.
    The only annoyances is that after installing Windows 7 the XP desktop takes a while to load. I know XP is a ridiculously old OS, my machineperfectly fine would run Windows 7.

    CCE stands for Cinema Craft Encoder, is a MPEG-2 encoder when you want to backup a movie that takes more than 4.3GB (DVD9 into DVD5). I think they've upgrade the software to CCE SP2 which I hope would work with 7.

    From time to time a play old games, such as Need for Speed Porsche Unleashed (2000), haven't tested it on 7 yet.

    I'm not asking too much, all I'm asking is that all my software (AOL, DVD Rebuilder, CCE, some old games) to work without problems on Windows 7.
    I'm still thinking on migrating to 7 still, I know I couldn't dwell in the past much longer.
    I haven't had any security issues with XP, I'd say with SP3 is rock solid.

    To be honest I really like the Windows 7 UI, actually it is a pleasure to use my laptop, and programs opens quickly compared to Windows XP. Firefox takes less than 6 seconds to load up, in comparison to more than 25 on XP.
    I'll wait some more, if I find the updated software compatible with Windows 7.

    Thanks for your response.

    I've a question: Can I run 32 bit programs under 64 bit environment? I'd really like to use my full 4 Gigs of RAM. (Under Windows 7 off course lol)
     
  19. Amnesiac

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    Just about anything except for drivers.
     
  20. GoodBytes

    GoodBytes NvGPUPro

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    See you don't need that.. Win7 (Vista as well) is auto-optimizing, more you use, restart, shutdown your system, the faster it will go (well it will stop at a certain level). You really the speed increase when you re-install your OS as all the optimization is gone.

    I believe that age has nothing to do with being afraid of change. Granted when we grow older, we have more responsibility in our life, so we try to be a little more conservative to prevent everything going out of control. But, I see it as a way of though. We if you tell your self that you are old all the time, and believe that older you get the less you like change, than this is what will happen to you. If you push yourself, looking out for new things, not only it adds (in my view) excitement, change, in one life, but it also feels that time slow down. Why? Because when you pile your list of things you did in the past x amount of time, you have more to add, not to mention more memorable moment. Well enough philosophy. :)

    The only annoyances is that after installing Windows 7 the XP desktop takes a while to load. I know XP is a ridiculously old OS, my machineperfectly fine would run Windows 7. Well DOS runs instantly on your computer. Set your computer to sleep (as it now works fine under Vista/Win7 perfectly), and now your system will have this "instant" on. :)

    Windows 7 (all editions), features a 32-bit (in addition the only 64-bit -for the moment- for the Windows 64-bit) MPEG-2 codec. To backup your DVD movies you can use this free tool called DVD Shrink. Then to load any ISO secured or not, you can use Daemon Tools (please use these tools responsibly, meaning legally. Of course, see with your state/country laws about what is legal and not).

    That's the spirit! If it's design to work for Vista, and fails under Win7, it could still work, just they put a OS limit detection on the setup or program. Just run it with compatibility mode set to Vista. Win7 is based on Vista, A LOT is similar between both, so it could work.

    Ouch, EA games... hmmm... it might be programmed in 16-bit, which means that not only it simply might not work under newer OS such as Vista or Win7, but the 64-bit version of these OS has no 16-bit program support anymore, so Windows won't even understand the program (you will get "Invalid Win32 application" error). However, look for a possible patch, or play the new ones.


    - DVD Rebuilder = DVD Shrink (freeware)
    - CCE = Daemon Tools (freeware, or pay for non-personal usage or more features). And Windows MPEG-2 Codec provided in the OS.
    - AOL... Tor ( http://www.torproject.org/)?!


    I'm still thinking on migrating to 7 still, I know I couldn't dwell in the past much longer.
    The beauty of security issue is that you don't know them, meaning your computer could be used in sharing viruses, or your personal info is or was being stolen and you don't know anything about it. If you know about it, then it's malware/virus/etc...

    Windows 64-bit is like 2 Windows in one. 32-bit and 64-bit. If you look closly you will notice 2 Program Files: "Program Files", and "Program Files (x86)", these are just ordinary folder, it's just to seperate Windows program, as under Win7 64-bit you have 2 Windows Media Player 12 - 32-bit and the 64-bit, same for Media Center and about everything else. Moreover, you have 2x System directory, the first System32, and the second SysWOW64. System32 contains all 64-bit system and library. And SysWOW64, features all 32-bit library, and system files. SysWOW64 means: System files Windows-On-Windows 64-bit. This was done to ensure that ALL well programed 32-bit software works 100% under Windows 64-bit. However, some badly programed software, were programed in 16-bit (DOS days... Win95 was 32-bit OS with 16-bit compatible), some of these applications are the ones that simply doesn't work under Win7 (or Vista), no mater what you do, like old EA games :)
    16-bit support was removed from Windows 64-bit. If you want support you must go with Windows 32-bit. This in reality was not a surprise move. Microsoft warned sine XP released that 16-bit should be dead, because Windows Longhorn in 2003 (final named Vista) will not have 16-bit as the OS will be in 64-bit only. However, many software company though they knew more than Microsoft and more then Microsoft own OS, and did their way. And that is why we have this mess now.

    Warning - 32-bit driver are not supported, they must be 64-bit.
     
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    Very interesting point. When I first heard of 64-bit OS'es I though it was restricted to run only 64 bit programs, but I'm relieved to know is not the case.
    I read this article:
    http://www.w7forums.com/windows-7-64-bit-vs-32-bit-t484.html

    It says:
    IS this the case in real life? Can you tell a difference running a 32 bit on the 64 bit environment?

    Why do you say you're still thinking migrating to Windows 7 if you will be upgrading from Windows Vista? Is not that different right?

    - DVD Rebuilder = DVD Shrink (freeware)
    I think DVD Rebuilder works in Windows 7, but Rebuilder does not shrink the DVD's, it's CCE which is a encoder. DVD Shrink is not an encoder, is a transcoding tool which means that it does not reencode the whole movie, it only reduces its quality so that it fits on a DVD5 disc.
    - CCE = Daemon Tools (freeware, or pay for non-personal usage or more features). And Windows MPEG-2 Codec provided in the OS.
    Again CCE is the MPEG-2 encoder , Daemon Tools iis just a mounting tool to mount ISO image files and use them as if they were on a physical drive, not the same thing.
    - AOL... Tor ( http://www.torproject.org/)?!
    Yep, I will try it!

    Back to the 64 bit vs 32 bit. I found interesting to know the 64 bit uses two folders for each 32 and 64 bits respectively, that's the reason the setup asks for 20GB of disk space against 15GB on the 32 bit version, ha.

    I'm inclined on upgrading soon, but more testing needs to be done so that when I wipe my HDD I do not regret wiping XP, but you're right XP is a dinosaur, even though it performs flawlessly on my machine.
     
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    You have to understand the difference between SUPPORT and ADDRESS.
    SUPPORT 4GB of RAM, means that it will boot with 4GB of RAM without any problem to worry about. But nothing guaranty that it will be entirely used. This problem is in part due to the x86 processor architecture. You must remember that "32-bit CPU" is just a general outline of sorts on how the processor works (addresses 32-bit long instructions at a time). x86 is the exact architecture. Back in the old days, this design problem (if you want to call it that), was no problem, as people wear seeing 4GB of RAM as if I tell you 16 ExaByte of RAM (1 ExaByte is approximatly 1 000 000 000 GB), it was insane number, seen to be unreachable; therefor, no one cared, especially that back in the day we had no technology to actually test this problem to really know if it was true (like now we cannot confirm that we ACTUALLY use 16ExaByte of RAM with a 64-bit CPU + 64-bit OS)

    Our 64-bit CPU's that we have today, can (with a supported OS, ie: Windows 64-bit), address 64-bit long instructions, but also supports new operation code to work faster (if the software uses them), and additional security features. 64-bit CPU is a concept which doesn't include these extras... it just means supports the ability to work with 64-bit long instructions.
    The real architecture in our 64-bit CPUs such as the Intel Core 2Duo or the Core i7 is actually called AMD64. Why "AMD"? It's because it's AMD that invented it, and wanted to have their name on it. Intel pays royalty fees to AMD to have the rights to use this architecture in their own CPU's, like AMD pays Intel for the x86 for the rights to make 32-bit CPU's (which is what AMD64 CPU's are based on, else our 64-bit CPU's would be true 64-bit CPU's, which means can only execute 64-bit software). Yea, it's a big mess.

    64-bit OS, can ADDRESS 4GB of RAM, meaning it can actually use the full 4GB that you have in your system.