Advice - Do i need more ram? Got 4Gb atm.

Me

I have noticed my fan speeding up/noisier so i checked in Task Manager and my ram is as in pic.

I only have 4 windows of Chrome open as well.

Or am i just wasting money and there are other tweaks i can do? I still have not disabled Windows Defender etc

https://imgur.com/a/lTNk9bc

Cheers

 

Although Windows 10 will run with 4 GB, it will run morre smoothly with 8GB or more (depending on what you do and how many windows you want to have open). The screenshot you posted shows your CPU is not being pushed - to be expected with Chrome windows as the only significant tasks) If you post your system configuration (or add it to your signature), we could provide additional suggestions. It might be that Throttlestop would be helpful, but I cannot tell at this point.
Keep us posted.
Joe

 

Something to read.

https://www.howtogeek.com/319933/what-is-memory-compression-in-windows-10/

 

Added to sig, i'm not sure what brand/model my memory/HDD is, i guess the only way to know is to open up the Laptop?

https://imgur.com/a/KDwln8a

Thanks

 

My guess is that you would benefit from moving to 8GB or even 16 GM of dual channel ram (depends on what you are doing). I would suggest also that you have a look at the ThrottleStop thread (under Hardware). That freeware program can allow you to get more out of your chip. Links to the latest version of the program and the manual are in the signature of its author, UncleWebb. His hard work and sage advice have helped many of us gain more performance out of our laptops than the manufacturer intended. There are lots of folks on that forum who will help you.
Joe

 

Yes i would like to remove the 4Gb ram and put in two 8Gb, ore one depending on price?
Could i add an 8Gb alongside the 4Gb to get 12Gb??

Where do i search for RAM, what type/brand do i need?
Again i am clueless with this sort of stuff, but i have learnt so much since i joined...

Cheers

 

2 x 4 GB is enough for your usage. Yes, 16 GB is better, but not really needed. I have 39 tabs open and use 7 GB RAM, and this is not a system with everything disabled or optimized.

High RAM usage doesn't make the fan run at high speed.

Your best upgrade would be another 4 or 8 GB, together with that SSD you want, at the same time.

A clean install of Windows is highly recommended when you install the SSD. My recommendation is to unplug the HDD while you install Windows on the new SSD.
If you don't, it might make the new Windows on the SSD dependant of having the HDD installed in order to boot. This is a bad idea, if your HDD would stop working in the future, or if you want to remove or replace it, you'll have trouble booting it.

Unplug power, open it, unplug battery, add RAM and SSD, unplug HDD, plug in power, install Windows on SSD from USB drive with the cover off, shut down, unplug power, plug in battery and HDD, put the cover back on the laptop. Do it at your own risk, of course.
As you can see, the extra step of unplugging the HDD will take maybe another minute.
You'll also might want to remove or disable the Windows installation on the HDD afterwards.

Here's the service manual, see page 58, don't try to open it without reading the description, laptops are so easy to break when you try to open it.

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/c05493257

 

I was thinking of using the existing image since i have done a fresh install/updated etc of Win 10 on the HDD.
Copied about 240Gb data, transferred Thunderbird and all my email accounts, it is as my oldler laptop with everything in its place/all files/programs etc.
I was thinking of just using the windows image tool, stick that on a usb, set it up on the new SSD.
I would then format/clean the old HDD on my old laptop, then add it to me new one.

I might be wrong (most probably am)......But i've read so much/watched so many vids its unreal.

I need to get a decent SSD, i've seen the speeds of some and they are just as bad as a HDD when full.

I also looked into ram and Crucial (i think it is called) auto detects what i need.

Can i add an 8Gb and my 4Gb?

Thanks mate, i would of been in ****e without all your guys advice and hep....PLUS patience.

 

I can't stress this enough. A clean install is preferred, partly because you're getting an SSD, and partly to get rid of HP's stock image.
Get an updated ISO, it's not that hard. The fact that you've seen a lot of videos isn't really an argument.
https://www.heidoc.net/joomla/techn...icrosoft-windows-and-office-iso-download-tool (Move the advertising window aside.)

So? NEVER fill a system drive. I can't see why you would fill the SSD when you have a 1 TB HDD as well.
Or, get bigger drives!

Add 8 GB to your 4 GB? Yes. My brother added 16 GB to 4 GB in his HP 14 (i3-7100).

 

I have just done a totally fresh install via windows link and added every update 2 days ago. No bloatware on here at all. It's FRESH.

 

Just read that, why is it even using memory compression when he is only using 5.7Gb of the 12Gb available?

Surely the sensible thing to do is only use memory compression when you come close to your RAM limit, like my system does with just 4Gb.I'm getting Google Chrome stopping if i have to many windows open.

I have searched for RAM and it seems Crucial Memory has a tool that scans your system and recommends varying sizes and brands (not sure if a branded/more expensive stick would make a difference tbh?)

Thanks

 

I say 6-8gb is optimum on Windows 10

I have been buying Crucial memory for years and have had zero problems and the scan tool makes it easy to buy, If the prices is too high on the Crucial website search for the ram stick id code on ebay.

John.

 

Thanks @ Tinderbox(UK)

Think i will just get an 8Gb stick and add it alongside my 4Gb.

Yea, it's a great site, found it on google and has great reviews.

 

Just my luck, tried the manual input, nothing foung.
So tried their scanning tool and not found.lol


EDIT - I think this is what i need guys?

https://uk.crucial.com/gbr/en/hp-15-bs158sa/CT11613135

 

Just had this -

 

The stick you posted will not work. That doesn't look like a So-DIMM, and your laptop doesn't take ECC memory.

Your laptop should take DDR4-2400 So-DIMMs. Stick to a name brand that offers a lifetime warranty. I'd go right for 16GB ...get a matched set e.g. a 2x 8GB kit.

For the SSD, they are cheap enough nowadays ...get a 512GB drive or even 1TB. Over-provision the drive to improve its lifespan and performance.

Charles

 

Just my luck, i just ignored (more like did not know) what the 'EEC' in the DDR4-2400 ECC SO-DIMM description.
I have read it states elsewhere it will work but only along another DDR4-2400 ECC SO-DIMM card,
My current 4Gb is not.
I just have to hope that the seller will accept a return i suppose?
I only went onto Ebay as Crucial was showing Nil stock on their 8Gb sticks. Pluss EEC is slower.


This is what i should of gone for, i seen out of stock but did not see link to other Sellers

This - https://www.ebuyer.com/797219-hyper...l14-sodimm-memory-memory-ebuyer-hx424s14ib2-8

Or This - https://www.ebuyer.com/797219-hyper...l14-sodimm-memory-memory-ebuyer-hx424s14ib2-8

Which one guys?

Thank

 

No you can use ECC RAM on a non supporting chipset, it just wont use the ECC function without a supporting chipset and Xeon CPU. I have 32 GB of it in my Dell 7577, originally from a Precision that had a Xeon CPU with 64GB RAM. You can mix ECC with no ECC makes no difference. Just don’t pay more for ECC RAM as it won’t benefit you in anyway with a non supporting laptop.

 

Strange, all i have read and videos i have seen state that it is not recommended to mix Non ECC ram (my current 4Gb) and the ECC Ram i purchased.

Getting mixed messages now, but the majority of answers are this-

Short answer: No. Even if they 'match up', it's not recommended.

Long answer:
Unbuffered ECC might work with regular unbuffered, but it might not be stable.
If it's fully buffered, it won't fit in the slot as the key notch is different.
Registered and unbuffered have the same keying, but will not ever work together, because registered delays the output by one clock cycle by design (as you're talking to the memory through the register, whereas unbuffered talks directly to the memory).
It's better to never mix memory types.

 

Mine is unbuffered ECC, the registered ECC DIMMs however which are different yes those delay by 1 clock cycle and yeah the latter possibly may cause issues but unbuffered ECC will just act like regular RAM it won’t cause any instability and you can mix it with regular RAM without issues. Even if you mix regular unbuffered ECC with non-ECC in even a ECC supporting chipset, the system simply won’t use the ECC function.

 

The seller has accepted my return anyway.

I am thinking this - https://www.ebuyer.com/740025-crucial-8gb-ddr4-2400-sodimm-laptop-memory-ct8g4sfs824a

Here is the full list - https://www.ebuyer.com/store/Compon...cat/DDR4-2400MHz?sort=price+ascending&247=8GB

What is that Hyper X ram? Are you just paying for the brand/plastic covering?

 

The Kingston Hyper X in that list has lower latency/timings CAS 14 I believe, so it’s better vs CAS 17 for the regular Crucial. In real world use you won’t see much difference don’t worry too much about it. Go for whichever is cost effective. My modules are CAS17, 2400 MHz.

 

There are load of selling fake ram on Ebay, i used the Ebuyer code to search, all Chinese, the i came to the cheapest UK seller.

I merely asked if his ram was genuine and got this -

Ebay
UK seller selling RAM cheaper the main PC Website outlets

Me - Hi
Are these GENUINE Crucial sticks?
It is easy to spot false ones.
Regards

Seller - Hi,
Of course, all of our items are and we have had many happy customers.
Thanks
GetRAM

So i log in to purchase

- This listing was ended by the seller because there was an error in the listing.......



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https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/p/pl?N=101582554 600213066 601190333&Order=PRICE

 

Thanks @Raiderman

QUOTE="Raiderman, post: 10965184, member: 546136"] https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/p/pl?N=101582554 600213066 601190333&Order=PRICE[/QUOTE]
Never new Newegg had a UK site, here it is -

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en/p/pl?N=101582554 600213066 601190333&Order=PRICE

Never heard of Patriot, G Skill or GEIL? Only heard of Crucial tbh, they do have slightly lower latency (15 or 16) but i will never notice the difference i suppose.

This is what i posted to that i am going to get at £29.90 delivered. CL=17

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Crucial-...952403?hash=item3d96611f13:g:e2QAAOSwwrNdto2p

This is the exact same ram on Newegg at £46.41 delivered !!! CL=17

https://www.newegg.com/global/uk-en...o-dimm/p/N82E16820156163?Item=N82E16820156163

Cheers

 

black friday is close, you can take advantage to buy RAM at lower prices