Alternative to live messeger

hi guys, what is the ideal alternative to windows live messeger? i need an im which supports msn, file sharing and video conference. thanks

 

Trillian and Pidgin have video conferencing I think. Almost all messengers support file transfer but none support the file sharing feature of msn where you share solders and things.

 

what os? if it's windows, why an alternative? wlm IS the ideal alternative

 

Its the windows 7 forum so that is the OS.... And if you look at the other thread started by Luke1708 you will see that his WLM crashes after login and no solution found for his problem.

 

yeah, as wave has pointed, i'm suffering from wlm crashes as mentioned here

 

Trillian Astra is pretty good honestly. Been using it with the Avion Pro skin which makes it look amazing.

 

ok i have got trillian astra pro running. how do i do msn video chats?

 

Re-install of Windows = Good bye issues...

Just saying

 

Usually use Emesene myself.
Its light and covers my need as i dont really need a multi protocol im.

 

I wouldn't be willing to reinstall my entire OS just to be able to use WLM. Besides, I don't like WLM. Like most chat clients, I find it bulky, ad-ridden, and pushy (always autolaunching and trying to get my attention).

Anyway, I suggest Trillian too. Works great, looks great, and has no ads in the UI.

 

try AMSN a open source alternative to WLM

Link : http://www.amsn-project.net/download.php

 

Well, it's not really about just using WLM but something is wrong with the OS if WLM keeps on crashing. I'm not gonna lie, it crashed on me once or twice as well but it was never a frequent problem to the point that it's unusable.

 

yeah, i prefer to fix problems instead of running away from them myself, too...

 

Well theres options to disable those stuff and apatch to fix though "too bulky and ad-ridden" issues..

 

Digsby is another messenger service, handy if you want to run Facebook chat through it too. Unsure if it has video messaging though.

 

Crashes are rarely the fault of the underlying OS in Windows versions since 3.51.

The culprit is more often flaky drivers, incorrect runtime libraries, or incorrect application behaviour. There are a lot of dependencies, and you only need to trip over one of them. Many times it is the fault of badly constructed install packages. The packaging job is given to the most inept junior when it should really be done by the most senior developer available or a release packaging expert.

 

while true, it's default windows 7 + wlm (which comes trough windows update). so while it's not an os fault per se, the whole windows installation on his system has a problem. else wlm would work, as it's a well known part of the default installation. it works on millions of machines.

 

I've been happily running Pidgin for years.

 

Well re-installing his OS isn't exactly fixing his problem more so as it's just "wipe everything and start anew" i.e. he still wouldn't know the cause or even what his problem is so in a sense it is kinda running away, just that in this case the problem isn't present after the running part.

I suppose this is a dump question. but are you using some kind of skin for Windows OP(ex: Windows Blind)?

 

that's true. fixing would be better than killing. but killing is better that running away from it.

sort of... it's just very hard from outside to fix it, so killing is the more easy suggestion. if i would sit in front of it, i would sure fix it somehow. but over the web, trough forum posts.. quite a bit more hard..

 

Define "better" lol If he really really likes WLM, then yes, it'd be better in the sense that he could potentially re-use the software assuming he doesn't initiate the same issue again(under the assumption that he was in way or form responsible for the issue in the first place) in which case it'd be moot anyhow lol XD

I'm a firm believer in "learn from your mistakes" so it'd be nice to know what the mistake was rather than kill everything for it. It's more a question of principle if anything else: if he has to wipe his OS for every issue he has with his computer then he's not learning much now is he?

I do agree that it's difficult from a forum to help someone since even tech support normally relies on real time communication such as IM or telephone, but hey, we can try our best right and if push comes to shove, there are always the ultimatum solutions.

 

i think running away is always the worst thing. both in social issues, in any fear issues, and in progression issues. and obviously, everywhere else.

but yeah, it would be great to find out what went wrong to not do it again. and to learn from it, not only he, but we, too.

 

amsn sounds cool but does it support video and voice chat?