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    Am I crazy or is IE really snappier?

    Discussion in 'Windows OS and Software' started by Spartan@HIDevolution, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Spartan@HIDevolution

    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Haven't used IE in many years. Now I just tried IE9 for fun and man this thing loads pages instantly, like in Firefox or Cyberfox, there is always a 1 to 2 sec lag before the page actually starts to render, with IE it's as if the page was stored locally or accessing it from an Intranet, I am blown away by the speed! and this is IE9 not 11!

    The reason I can't use IE10 or 11 is because it breaks the Aero interface with its bundled upgrades.

    2 questions:

    1) how come an old IE is so much snappier than the latest and greatest Firefox?

    2) is there any risk in using IE9 and not IE11 provided I have an Antivirus, MVPS Hosts file, Tracking protection list and all Windows updates?
     
  2. Pirx

    Pirx Notebook Virtuoso

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    How so? I'm using IE11, and other than the stupid Metro-style scrollbar it's fine. It certainly does nothing to Aero in general.
     
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    Spartan@HIDevolution Company Representative

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    Check your event log bro, and look for any DWM errors. a member here (I think Tanware) taught me about this one update that breaks Aero / DWM. So I couldn't find that update, he said because if you install IE 10 or 11 it's automatically bundled with them now.
     
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    Have IE11 on my T500 running W7, and Aero's perfectly fine. IE11 is certainly quite snappy; the only reason I don't use it as my primary browser is because FF is more easily customizable.
     
  5. TANWare

    TANWare Just This Side of Senile, I think. Super Moderator

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    Yeah, that's the optional Windows 7 Platform Update which backports a few minor DX11.1 features to Windows 7. It doesn't include the significant DX11.1 features from Windows 8 though, so BF4 performance on Windows 7 is not improved.

    KB2670838 is required for IE10, IE11, and new games which require DX11.1 such as the UE4 title Daylight. However, the platform update also breaks a ton of stuff including some non-DX11 games and DX11 apps which have not been patched after the update. If you have IE10 or IE11 installed and remove KB2670838, IE also automatically gets uninstalled.

    M$ really needs to get its stuff together. It's been 2 years. It's unacceptable to have to keep installing and uninstalling a Windows Update depending on what programs you want to run. :mad:
     
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  7. TANWare

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    Funny thing is, the transparent task bar works with IE and Windows 10, not all of aero is killed. So it looks like they know how to fix it but don't.
     
  8. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    So I don't have IE 10 or 11, but I did install that Platform update, sounded like something important to me like a kernel update or so, are you saying that in future install I should hide that platform update? It has 3 other optional updates I think....heck sometimes I feel like just disabling Windows update altogether and risk it.....brings more headaches than any good and my system certainly feels snappier without them updates

    EDIT: Nevermind, just remembered that NOD32 Antivirus will keep displaying an amber icon until all updates are installed except hidden or optional ones
     
  9. Pirx

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    I know all about my event logs. They're squeaky clean, as they should be. There is no update that "breaks Aero/DWM", for any of my machines.
     
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    interesting, can you please post your system specs, also, did you install the platform update as well?
     
  11. Pirx

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    I always install all updates. This is for a half dozen different machines.
     
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    Yeah I think there are a couple other optional kernel updates that show up after you install the platform update. I never install any of them.
     
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    This is a more rare than not error, but it does exist. Google/Bing is your friend, search it out and you will find many hits including those at the M$ tech support forums. Some have speculated it is in dual igp/dgp systems some have proven it is not. There is no certainty other than if the system has the issue all of the same system configurations will.
     
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    I have seen that there's quite a few people complaining about issues with this. All I can say is that I have never seen an issue myself, nor have I heard anyone mention this to me in person. I don't doubt that there is some sort of an issue for some people but, as you say, it seems to be quite rare.
     
  15. n=1

    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    I remember someone saying vanilla IE without any addons is indeed snappier than Firefox or Chrome. My own experience with vanilla IE9 and Firefox with like 11 extensions and 15 plugins points to that being true. No idea about Chrome.
     
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    And where does Chrome fit into there?
     
  17. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    to be fair, it's the snappiest of all, my only issue with it is it doesn't support the WYSIWYG editor on VB3 forums only on VB4 and above, and sine my own forums is based on VB3, it makes copy/pasting posts which have links and images a nightmare, I have to manually edit the code and enter the URLs, formatting, images, etc :(

    There used to be an extension for Chrome to overcome that but it has been discontinued even if I force install it, it won't work
     
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    That's what I thought. :p
     
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    n=1 YEAH SCIENCE!

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    lol it's Sunday take a chill pill :p

    edited original post for clarity
     
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    :confused:

    I was genuinely curious. On PC I haven't used anything but Chrome for 3 years. Just wondering how the others currently stack up.
     
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    lol don't worry about it then

    in any case Ferris23 is probably the best person to ask, and seems like he's already given an answer.
     
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    Even though IE has the best system integration with Windows, and has true hardware acceleration.... it still performs worse on online browser benchmarks, and seems to always be playing catch up.

    Also for me it's just simply not cross-platform, which is something i look for in a browser. Also it seems to shower me with popups AND it lacks customization and decent add-ons.

    Been switching back and forth between chrome and firefox since 06'.